Grant
Honorary Master
I have asked you a couple of times about the report from the french.
Aslo no evidence ?
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I have asked you a couple of times about the report from the french.
Aslo no evidence ?
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killadoob
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I have told you i can't find an english version FFS. I even pmed you asking for a link. Looking at my sent items i don't see the pm and i dunno but this site has been acting up. Double posts, so instead of ignoring or missing that i have now said twice i pmed you, i have been thinking you ignored my pm on purpose. Your link was in french i pmed asking for an english version last night, i am many things grant but i am not a liar. Give me an english link, i have googled and found nothing. Your link was in french. Maybe i was a bit noob and i don't know to convert it to english but give me a link and i will read right now.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Alan have a look at this map http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/n_africa_mid_east_pol_95.jpg
What do you see when assad falls? Total and complete isolation of israel with hostile people who hate them. Not a single friend, i am assuming the egypt army are lying to israel and gaining their trust, troops move into Sinai.
Only assad stands between israel and being surrounded and perhaps that was the goal. Assad may not know what is going and russia is involved. Right now i don't know alan, i am sensing something very odd happening in syria. Just a conspiracy theory.
What do you see when assad falls? Total and complete isolation of israel with hostile people who hate them. Not a single friend, i am assuming the egypt army are lying to israel and gaining their trust, troops move into Sinai.
Only assad stands between israel and being surrounded and perhaps that was the goal. Assad may not know what is going and russia is involved. Right now i don't know alan, i am sensing something very odd happening in syria. Just a conspiracy theory.
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LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Arab nations offered to pay for Syria strike: Kerry
Arab nations have offered to help pay for any US military intervention in Syria, Secretary of State John Kerry told lawmakers Wednesday as he sought support for missile strikes.
"With respect to Arab countries offering to bear the cost and to assist, the answer is profoundly yes, they have. That offer is on the table," Kerry said as he appeared before a House of Representatives panel.
The offer was "quite significant," he said.
"Some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we've done it previously in other places, they'll carry that cost. That's how dedicated they are to this."
But he stressed: "Obviously, that is not in the cards and nobody is talking about it, but they are talking about taking seriously getting this job done."
He was appearing before the House Foreign Affairs committee on the second day of the administration's blitz on Capitol hill to persuade lawmakers to approve limited military strikes.
Washington has led charges that the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad unleashed sarin gas on August 21 against the residents of a Damascus suburb killing what a US intelligence report said was some 1,400 people.
President Barack Obama has insisted that Assad's regime has crossed a red line against the use of such horrific weapons and should be punished and his military capability degraded.
But in a sign of the depth of opposition involvement in Syria, anti-war demonstrators held up red-stained hands behind Kerry's head in a silent protest during his testimony.
Lawmakers are now drafting a resolution to go before Congress which would give the US administration a 60-day deadline for military intervention, which could be extended once for 30 more days. It would also bar any American boots on the ground.
Asked if the time limit was acceptable to administration, Kerry said it would be preferable to have "a trigger in there" if Assad used chemical weapons again.
He indicated that a move to give the White House a further 60 days every time such arms were used would be acceptable.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee meanwhile held a three-hour, classified session to try to thrash out a draft resolution after Republican veteran Senator John McCain appeared to balk at the plan because he felt it did not go far enough.
Source : Sapa-AFP /mm
Date : 04 Sep 2013 20:05
Arab nations have offered to help pay for any US military intervention in Syria, Secretary of State John Kerry told lawmakers Wednesday as he sought support for missile strikes.
"With respect to Arab countries offering to bear the cost and to assist, the answer is profoundly yes, they have. That offer is on the table," Kerry said as he appeared before a House of Representatives panel.
The offer was "quite significant," he said.
"Some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we've done it previously in other places, they'll carry that cost. That's how dedicated they are to this."
But he stressed: "Obviously, that is not in the cards and nobody is talking about it, but they are talking about taking seriously getting this job done."
He was appearing before the House Foreign Affairs committee on the second day of the administration's blitz on Capitol hill to persuade lawmakers to approve limited military strikes.
Washington has led charges that the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad unleashed sarin gas on August 21 against the residents of a Damascus suburb killing what a US intelligence report said was some 1,400 people.
President Barack Obama has insisted that Assad's regime has crossed a red line against the use of such horrific weapons and should be punished and his military capability degraded.
But in a sign of the depth of opposition involvement in Syria, anti-war demonstrators held up red-stained hands behind Kerry's head in a silent protest during his testimony.
Lawmakers are now drafting a resolution to go before Congress which would give the US administration a 60-day deadline for military intervention, which could be extended once for 30 more days. It would also bar any American boots on the ground.
Asked if the time limit was acceptable to administration, Kerry said it would be preferable to have "a trigger in there" if Assad used chemical weapons again.
He indicated that a move to give the White House a further 60 days every time such arms were used would be acceptable.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee meanwhile held a three-hour, classified session to try to thrash out a draft resolution after Republican veteran Senator John McCain appeared to balk at the plan because he felt it did not go far enough.
Source : Sapa-AFP /mm
Date : 04 Sep 2013 20:05
Grant
Honorary Master
Where have you told me this ? Twice ?? Give me a thread number - I have clearly missed you telling me this
No pm from you. I am not calling you a liar, but there are a couple of pm's from others
??
Have you tried something simple like :
english translation french chemical weapons report
its a pretty simple search, but the bones of it were in the RT article I posted
killadoob
Honorary Master
Arab nations are going to pay to put extremists in charge of syria? Alarm bells are going off big time at the moment.
Look at this article from 2011. http://www.spiegel.de/international...ans-side-with-assad-out-of-fear-a-800450.html
Isn't it odd he warned them and they listened to him. Do you think al nusra are going to allow these christians freedom and peace? No they will slaughter single one of them.
Grant whatever dude, if it's so easy find me a copy please. Honestly i am tired of being asked about it and telling you i cannot find an original. i don't want an rt, aljazeera, cnn article, i want the actual documents in english. then i don't have to wonder if rt are spinning or cnn.
Look at this article from 2011. http://www.spiegel.de/international...ans-side-with-assad-out-of-fear-a-800450.html
Isn't it odd he warned them and they listened to him. Do you think al nusra are going to allow these christians freedom and peace? No they will slaughter single one of them.
Grant whatever dude, if it's so easy find me a copy please. Honestly i am tired of being asked about it and telling you i cannot find an original. i don't want an rt, aljazeera, cnn article, i want the actual documents in english. then i don't have to wonder if rt are spinning or cnn.
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OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Al-Nusra = 7000, Free Syrian Army = 80 000.
Stop pretending it's Assad vs. genocidal islamofascists only, killa.
Stop pretending it's Assad vs. genocidal islamofascists only, killa.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Link please. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/08/free-syrian-army-rebels-defect-islamist-group
You don't get what i am seeing orbital. You don't know how many extremists are in syria, kerry does not know, the FSA has been losing troops to extremist elements by their thousands since January.
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OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
http://www.economist.com/news/middl...s-have-overtaken-all-others-competition-among
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ls-the-truth-about-syrias-rebels-8662618.html
They're not even the biggest Islamist group there.
Grant
Honorary Master
Suddenly - by convenient miracle, you find RT not acceptable ???
For god knows how long, you have been spewing out RT as gospel, but now suddenly it's not good enough for you !
Really, now, of all times ?
The "actual documents" are in french, as you are fully aware.
But don't bother - you'll declare it to be lies and an american plot in any event, cause putin said so !
So those that have been arming & feeding this mess now openly declare their willing to pay off the US military to go & achieve what they haven't been able to do ......
But it was Assad of course who thought up the most cunning plan to hit civilians with chemical weapons just in time for when the UN was in the country so they could take some evidence out.......
Man you can't even make this **** up.....
killadoob
Honorary Master
I have maintained all along i support no one grant. Rt could twist the french copy, cnn could twist it. I have never maintained RT are correct, i just prefer them because they are not pro american but i read more than rt bud. So please don't make out like i support rt,cnn, aljazeera etc they all have agendas and i know that. I asked you for the original version in english you told me it was easy to find, now you tuning me broken because i want an unbiased look at the documents and i am not spoon fed by media and i never have been.
So basically the original version in english is not easy to find and you have not read the orignal yet, so how have you made up your mind? spoon fed by one of the media outlets while tuning me because i want original documents and nothing summed up by media outlets? ok then.
So you don't think it's a little toooo convenient?
killadoob
Honorary Master
I know, i cannot believe that people are buying into this, russia could not have done this because america has undeniable proof they refuse to release, could easily make russia look like supporters of chemical weapons by going to the UN. How on earth people see the logic in assad doing what he did knowing firstly russia would not accept it and secondly it would increase the chance of intervention massively when he was beating the extremists.
Beyond WTF that people actually believe the US while they are being so secretive about undeniable proof. It is beyond belief people claim to know how many extremists there are in syria. Nobody knows. Assad is saying guys, i am fighting 90% extremists and he as done well. Why do they want extremists to rule over assad? What country has given us any signs of good change from the removal of a dictator? they are all messed up, fighting each other.
What makes israel feel so safe? this isn't about the US, i am seriously concerned to hear arab nations will fund the bombing of assad.
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Grant
Honorary Master
What part of "the report is in french" do you not understand ?
You, like the rest of the planet will have to rely on an english TRANSLATION, of which there are many - none of which you will believe - unless putin said so.
Lets try stick to english
So your source of information on all this would then be direct & personal contact with:
a) joint chiefs of staff
B) kremlin
c) assad
d) alex jones
e) illuminati
f) personal attendance at Bohemian Grove functions
g) all of the above
It does not exist, the original, in case you have not understood on the previous occasions, but once again - is in french
Grant
Honorary Master
killadoob
Honorary Master
grant i don't know what your issue is, are you upset that i don't want to read an rt version or a cnn version of a document? Why? I have looked long and hard for an original in english, nothing but media outlets. Sorry that i want to read the english original as opposed to rt or cnn. No idea why you so mad bro. You kept asking if i had read the 9 page document but clearly you have not read it so WTF are you on about. When you read the full document let me know so i can as well. Your link was also the french version of the document, why post a french link and then ask why people have not read it.
Orbital check this out, no idea if it is fake or not. FSA uniting with al nusra. Listen to these people you claim want peace and would be better than assad.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...ists-officially-merge-with-al-qaeda-in-syria/
Whether this is legit, i don't know. Seems to me though it is all over the place. It is footage from june so it could be a fake video, not sure at this point. Only checked it pop up now. Just so we are clear i have no idea whether this is legit footage or faked footage.
http://syriareport.net/jabhat-al-nusra-merges-with-fsa-in-aleppo/ again i don't know how much truth there is to this report.
Orbital check this out, no idea if it is fake or not. FSA uniting with al nusra. Listen to these people you claim want peace and would be better than assad.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...ists-officially-merge-with-al-qaeda-in-syria/
Whether this is legit, i don't know. Seems to me though it is all over the place. It is footage from june so it could be a fake video, not sure at this point. Only checked it pop up now. Just so we are clear i have no idea whether this is legit footage or faked footage.
http://syriareport.net/jabhat-al-nusra-merges-with-fsa-in-aleppo/ again i don't know how much truth there is to this report.
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Lightscribe
Banned
Nice find.
Sense this...WTFU.
Nice find.
Erm...we have posted on the rebels creating their own chemical weapons...over and over...and over again. But, hey, go on, do it again.
