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Yup i know, they were not planning in the beginning that russia would veto along with china, since then they have never had a chance, then assad throws away two and half years battling rebel forces knowing what it would cause an intervention, sounds about right for people who have not woken up i think. Undeniable sand as evidence, common how silly can people be to now think he has anything more than the undeniable sand.
The Russians used the people of Afghanistan, as guinea pigs for chemical weapons and they're now doing the same thing, to the people of Syria. "They did it before, they are doing it again", as Killa says....
The Russians used the people of Afghanistan, as guinea pigs for chemical weapons and they're now doing the same thing, to the people of Syria. "They did it before, they are doing it again", as Killa says....
So while every available satellite is no-doubt pointed at Syria Russia decides to do some chemical weapons testing......LOL
Put that bong away my friend.....
The source added that since then Assad’s forces had subsequently bombed the areas to erase evidence of strikes.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...ict-Thread?p=11080187&viewfull=1#post11080187
Do you mean the false flag rubbish they have been doing since god knows when? Do you mean the lying to further their interests even if they knew people were being gassed? Does that include lying about chemical weapons and invading a country based on lies?
I am not sure if you mean the US has never stopped red flagging to create scenario's to further their agendas or their continuous lies that started in vietnam, prior to that i don't know. Using japan as a test ground for a new weapon but that is old news. Be more specific when you say killa says this or that because i am confused as to what i said?
Do you mean that i think the US would ignore the bad guys gassing people and blame someone else to further their cause? They did it in iraq. Your russian story isn't the same thing. They don't need to test weapons so your point is invalid. The US has wanted assad gone for a long time now so furthering their cause by ignoring the actual people behind the attack seems about right for the US who have lied for the last 40 years.
It's fine though take their word as gospel dude, i fully understand how cult logic works. No matter what is said and no matter hiow many lies the people still take the word as gospel. Each to their own.
Show me this undeniable evidence and i will make up my mind. Hide it from me and i will assume you are once again lying as you have done for the last 40 years. Simple really. show me evidence that is undeniable and i won't deny undeniable evidence, show me nothing and you have nothing.
As for the "momentum" question, one of the greatest shibboleths of the last three months has been assessments that put the rebels on the losing side of this war. No one seemed to understand why Assad would gas them in Eastern Ghouta because no one seemed to even realize that the rebels had so firmly entrenched themselves in Eastern Ghouta, withstanding gunships, artillery, rockets and even prior releases of nerve toxins. In a very well done piece for Der Spiegel, Christoph Reuter and Holger Stark debunk this conventional wisdom by showing that, apart from the fall of Qusayr and Homs (strategic necessaries for the regime, but not the opposition), Assad's forces have been suffering several debilitating losses. Khan al-Assal in the Aleppo, the sight of an early chemical weapons attack, fell in July as did Minnagh airbase. Last month, rebels took Khan Assir, the last transit corridor for the regime's remaining troops in Aleppo who are now completely choked off. And in Rif Dimashq, Reuter and Stark write, not even the August 21 sarin attack enabled the Fourth Division to retake a single neighborhood, and it sure did try: "Instead, the division lost at least seven tanks in the Damascus neighborhood of Harasta alone. A rebel video provides an insight into the lack of personnel among the elite division: Two crew members flee a burning tank -- but they are wearing no uniforms, no helmets and no radio gear. Shabiha militia members have apparently been forced to fill the gaps in the ranks of the army."
This shows yet again another fatal weakness in Assad's campaign: not only is he running out of viable regular soldiers -- the bulk of whom he's never trusted, and many of whom have either been killed by rebels, confined to barracks, or shot while trying to desert or defect -- but he is relying more and more on guerrilla militias to do his fighting for him. Not all of these are acting directly on orders from Damascus High Command. The Syrian Arab Army, in other words, is losing its command and control capability and becoming more and more like... the Free Syrian Army.
Also, keep living in your dreamworld, where only the USA has lied about things, for the last 40 years.
Guardian 25th August"For months we have not been able to advance along a front," said a commander of the Salafist militia, Ahrar al-Sham, who did not want to be named. "This will allow us to fight more like an army."
Everyone lies when it suits them. Sure, that means I'm saying that I know the USA lies. Your cult blabber is off target. I did not say I believed them. I said look at the possibility that Russia is simply doing in Syria, what it did in Afghanistan.
The reactions to Obama's hesitation to rush in, shows people that mock him and want the USA to attack...not people that are thankful he did not strike.
@Tun@ - I've shown that already, even reposting for Killa...
I'll make the "they did it before, so they're doing it again" point a few times, about chemical weapons used by the Russians on the people of Afghanistan, which they seem to be doing to the people of Syria now.
If John Kerry’s rhetorically aggressive speech on Syria sounded familiar, perhaps it’s because another secretary of state made similar remarks a decade ago in laying out the case for a U.S. military operation in the Middle East.
On Feb. 5, 2003, Colin Powell–with diagrams, electronic intercepts and satellite photographs in tow—spent two hours telling members of the United Nations Security Council that Iraq was aiding terrorists and concealing weapons of mass destruction.
President George W. Bush’s foreign policy chief said the evidence was “irrefutable and undeniable.”
As they contemplate military action against Syria, one of many considerations members of Congress and Obama administration officials have to weigh is how a U.S. strike against the regime of Bashar al-Assad might effect the already complicated, even poisonous, state of Sunni-Shia relations in the region.
Three of the leading Sunni states, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the UAE, have already offered their military assets if a US strike happens.
Last week, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said that the Shia government of Iran and close Syrian ally Russia would work in "extensive cooperation" to protect Syria.
Already in July, the United Nations recorded the highest death toll in Iraq since 2008, when the Iraq War was raging. In that month alone, more than 1,057 civilians and security personnel were killed. Many of those deaths were the result of bombings claimed by the Sunni terrorist group al-Qaeda in Iraq and were directed at Shia targets.
It's a very old story. The two dominant sects of Islam, Sunni and Shia, first split over the issue of who was the rightful successor of the Prophet Muhammad following his death in 632.
The conflict between the two sects has waxed and waned over the many centuries since, but right now the Syrian conflict could exacerbate the regional split along sectarian lines that we have seen over the past few years.
In 2011 the Sunni monarchy of the Gulf state of Bahrain backed by more than a thousand soldiers from Saudi Arabia put down with harsh tactics an uprising by its disadvantaged Shia majority population. The Bahrain government hinted that the uprising was an Iranian plot.
The sectarian conflicts in Syria, Iraq and Bahrain have also spilled over into Lebanon and Egypt. On June 23, in Lebanon's port city of Sidon, soldiers clashed with supporters of a hardline Sunni cleric, Sheikh Ahmed al-Assir, who had spoken out vehemently against the Syrian regime as well as the Shia Lebanese militant group, Hezbollah.
On the same day, four Egyptian Shia Muslims were stabbed, beaten, and dragged through the streets by members of a hardline Sunni group in the Giza neighborhood of Cairo.
The intensifying sectarian tensions in Egypt were partially the fault of the recently-ousted Muslim Brotherhood government. A week before the Giza attack, for example, President Mohamed Morsi had appeared on stage with hardline clerics who called Shias "filthy." And in May, Salafist members of Egypt's parliament denounced Shias as "a danger to Egypt's national security."
Beyond the Middle East, sectarian violence has also soared in South Asia over the past few years. More than 180 members of Pakistan's minority Shi'a Hazara community were killed in two massive bombings in the first two months of 2013 alone.
In neighboring Afghanistan, violent attacks on Shia Muslims are less frequent, but in December 2011, two nearly simultaneous suicide bombs in Kabul and Mazar-i-Sharif killed more than 60 Shia civilians as they celebrated the annual religious festival of Ashura.
We can expect sectarian tensions to continue boiling across the Muslim world, as the Syrian conflict grinds on and political and social unrest persist in many countries in the region.
Saudi Arabia and Qatar have mobilized their deep coffers to support extremist Sunni groups in the past, and will continue to do so as long as it means they are able to counterbalance Iran and its support for Shia regimes and militant groups.
Lightscribe i think you have missed my point dude, you are making excuses for the americans and saying everyone else does it and i agree with you, my question to you is why you have so much support and belief when you know they lie so much? I don't know who is telling the truth because unlike you i don't have faith in anyone nor do i believe everything that country/person tells me because i know they must back it up. I certainly would not be taking putins word if they were in the position the US is in, i would want the proof as would the americans as would you want the proof if it was russia.
See the fundamental difference between people like tuna, myself and yourself is that tuna and myself don't see the logic in the attack but we have not ruled out the possibility because we do not blindly and ignorantly take the word of known liars(obama, assad, putin all included), secret undeniable proof does tend to make me back the side who is asking for the evidence to be out in the open though.
The US however have come out and said they have undeniable proof but they cannot show anyone. To me that screams we have no proof and we hope our cult like following is still strong enough to believe our word. Sadly as this thread proves, they are 100% correct thinking they won't need to ever show the proof.
The Obama administration’s vacillations on Syria were perhaps best exemplified by Secretary of State John Kerry. Speaking before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, Kerry suggested it would be preferable to give the White House the power to send in ground forces in the event that Syria “imploded” or if chemical weapons were at risk of being obtained by extremists.
Assad falling means no more civil war? So now the war on terror is back on the agenda after they enabled terrorists and they will now go fight the terrorists they said made up a small portion of the rebel groups. So replacing assad by occupation. Booya, iraq 2.0"Let's shut the door now," Kerry said. "The answer is, whatever prohibition clarifies it to Congress or the American people, there will not be American boots on the ground with respect to the civil war."
Bashar Al-Assad launched the chemical attack which killed hundreds of people because he 'lost his nerve' in a moment of panic and worried that Damascus would fall to rebel troops, according to new intelligence.
In a telephone call which was tapped by German spy chiefs, a senior Hezbollah commander told the Iranian embassy in Lebanon that Syria's president intended to tilt the balance of power towards the regime in the battle for control of the country's capital.
However, it appears that the chemical attack backfired, as it looks set to prompt a major intervention from American and French troops aimed at crippling Assad's military capabilities.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-chemical-attack-scared-rebels-Damascus.html
Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'
Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces' 8200 unit, former official tells magazine
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk