The Syrian Conflict Thread

Al-Qaeda linked Syria Rebels hit Christian Village

Al-Qaida-linked rebels have launched an assault on a regime-held Christian village in the densely populated west of Syria and new clashes erupted near the capital, Damascus - part of a brutal battle of attrition each side believes it can win despite more than two years of deadlock.

As the world focused on possible U.S. military action against Syria, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel in the village of Maaloula and shelled the community below Wednesday, said a nun, speaking by phone from a convent in the village. She spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

The attack came hours before a Senate panel voted to give President Barack Obama authority to use military force against Syria - the first time lawmakers have voted to allow military action since the October 2002 votes authorizing the invasion of Iraq.

The measure, which cleared the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on a 10-7 vote, was altered at the last minute to support "decisive changes to the present military balance of power" in Syria's civil war, though it ruled out U.S. combat operations on the ground. It was expected to reach the full Senate floor next week.

The Syria conflict, which began with a popular uprising in March 2011, has been stalemated, and it's not clear if U.S. military strikes over the regime's alleged chemical weapons use would change that. Obama has said he seeks limited pinpoint action to deter future chemical attacks, not regime change.

Obama has been lobbying for international and domestic support for punishing President Bashar Assad's regime, which the U.S. says fired rockets loaded with the nerve agent sarin on rebel-held areas near Damascus before dawn on Aug. 21, killing hundreds of civilians.

So far, however, he has won little international backing for action. Among major allies, only France has offered publicly to join the U.S. in a strike.

In a parliament debate, France's Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault made a passionate appeal for intervention in Syria, placing the blame for the alleged chemical attack on Assad and warning that inaction could let him carry out more atrocities.

The debate ended without a vote since President Francois Hollande can order a military operation without one.

Obama has called chemical weapons use a "red line," and top administration officials argued before the Senate on Tuesday that Assad would take inaction by Washington as a license for further brutality against his people. The fighting has killed more than 100,000 Syrians and uprooted nearly 7 million from their homes.

During a visit to Sweden on Wednesday, Obama said a red line had been drawn by countries around the world that have backed a long-standing ban on chemical weapons. "I didn't set a red line, the world set a red line," he said.

With the Syria debate in Congress in full swing, questions arose around the administration's assurances. It's not clear, critics said, how the U.S. could expect to deliver surgical strikes in Syria's chaotic battlefield or predict the repercussions, including possible Assad regime reprisals against Syria's neighbors.

The civil war in Syria hit a stalemate almost from the start. The rebels control much of the countryside in the north, east and south, but the regime is hanging on to most urban centers in the west, where the majority of Syrians live.

Within that deadlock, each side has consolidated control over certain areas, said Peter Harling, a Syria expert at the International Crisis Group think tank.

Momentum "is always shifting enough for both sides to be able to convince themselves that victory is ultimately feasible," he said. "In practice, both sides are stuck and can achieve very little militarily."

The dawn assault on the predominantly Christian village of Maaloula was carried out by rebels from the al-Qaida-linked Jabhat al-Nusra group, according to a Syrian government official and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an anti-regime group.

At the start of the attack, an al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a regime checkpoint at the entrance to the village, said the Observatory, which collects information from a network of anti-regime activists.

The suicide attack was followed by fighting between the rebels and regime forces, the Observatory and a nun in the village said. Eventually, the rebels seized the checkpoint, disabled two tanks and an armored personnel carrier and killed eight regime soldiers in fighting, the British-based group said.

The nun said the rebels took over the Safir hotel atop a mountain overlooking the village and fired shells at it from there. "It's a war. It has been going from 6 a.m. in the morning," she said.

Some 80 people from the village took refuge in the convent, which houses 13 nuns and 27 orphans, she said.

A Syrian government official confirmed the assault and said the military was trying to repel the rebels. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give official statements.

Maaloula, a mountain village some 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus, is home to about 2,000 residents, some of whom still speak a version of Aramaic, the ancient language of biblical times believed to have been spoken by Jesus.

The four-decade iron rule of the Assad clan over Syria has long rested on support from the country's ethnic and religious minorities, including Christians, Shiite Muslims and Kurds. The Assad family and key regime figures are Alawites, followers of an offshoot of Shiite Islam, while most rebels and their supporters are Sunni Muslims.

In fighting in Damascus, a mortar shell fired by rebels hit a sports hall, killing a member of the national tae kwon do team, 27-year-old Mohammed Ali Neimeh, the state news agency SANA said. Neimeh had been training for an upcoming Islamic Solidarity Tournament in Indonesia this week.

Rebels and regime forces also clashed on the outskirts of the capital, according to amateur video. In the Daraya district, several fighters fired assault rifles from behind an earthen embankment. Smoke rose from the neighborhood of Barzek after the shelling.

There were new signs of rivalry among rebel groups that have been fragmented from the start. The two main camps are the Western-backed Free Syrian Army, which portrays itself as the largest fighting group, and jihadist fighters, including thousands from outside Syria, who have become increasingly dominant, particularly in the north and sparsely populated east.

Among the jihadists, there have been several splits in recent months, particularly between those loyal to commanders in Syria and those who pledge allegiance to al-Qaida-linked groups in Iraq.

In an amateur video posted online Wednesday, a foreign fighter was seen standing among other bearded men who he says have come to Syria from Russia and the Caucasus to wage jihad, or holy war.

"Our brigade is called the Mujahedin of the Caucasus and the Levant, and we have our brothers from all over the world with us," he said in halting Russian translated into Arabic. He said his men had broken away from one of the jihadi blocs, known as ISIS, and that the group is also "independent from Jabhat al-Nusra and others."

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Associated Press writer Albert Aji in Damascus contributed to this report.


Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 05 Sep 2013 09:26
 
Yup i know, they were not planning in the beginning that russia would veto along with china, since then they have never had a chance, then assad throws away two and half years battling rebel forces knowing what it would cause an intervention, sounds about right for people who have not woken up i think. Undeniable sand as evidence, common how silly can people be to now think he has anything more than the undeniable sand.

The Russians used the people of Afghanistan, as guinea pigs for chemical weapons and they're now doing the same thing, to the people of Syria. "They did it before, they are doing it again", as Killa says....
 
The Russians used the people of Afghanistan, as guinea pigs for chemical weapons and they're now doing the same thing, to the people of Syria. "They did it before, they are doing it again", as Killa says....


So while every available satellite is no-doubt pointed at Syria Russia decides to do some chemical weapons testing......LOL
Put that bong away my friend.....
 
The Russians used the people of Afghanistan, as guinea pigs for chemical weapons and they're now doing the same thing, to the people of Syria. "They did it before, they are doing it again", as Killa says....

Do you mean the false flag rubbish they have been doing since god knows when? Do you mean the lying to further their interests even if they knew people were being gassed? Does that include lying about chemical weapons and invading a country based on lies?

I am not sure if you mean the US has never stopped red flagging to create scenario's to further their agendas or their continuous lies that started in vietnam, prior to that i don't know. Using japan as a test ground for a new weapon but that is old news. Be more specific when you say killa says this or that because i am confused as to what i said?

Do you mean that i think the US would ignore the bad guys gassing people and blame someone else to further their cause? They did it in iraq. Your russian story isn't the same thing. They don't need to test weapons so your point is invalid. The US has wanted assad gone for a long time now so furthering their cause by ignoring the actual people behind the attack seems about right for the US who have lied for the last 40 years.

It's fine though take their word as gospel dude, i fully understand how cult logic works. No matter what is said and no matter hiow many lies the people still take the word as gospel. Each to their own.

Show me this undeniable evidence and i will make up my mind. Hide it from me and i will assume you are once again lying as you have done for the last 40 years. Simple really. show me evidence that is undeniable and i won't deny undeniable evidence, show me nothing and you have nothing.
 
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So while every available satellite is no-doubt pointed at Syria Russia decides to do some chemical weapons testing......LOL
Put that bong away my friend.....

Chemical weapons are being used in standard munitions. Satellites would not be very helpful.

Also,

The source added that since then Assad’s forces had subsequently bombed the areas to erase evidence of strikes.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...ict-Thread?p=11080187&viewfull=1#post11080187

Past behavior, with the present arrogance, when Obama did not push for strikes immediately, show the Russian/assad alliance's actions and intentions.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...ict-Thread?p=11078903&viewfull=1#post11078903

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...onflict-Thread/page52?p=11093169#post11093169

Thus, the Russians used the people of Afghanistan, as guinea pigs for chemical weapons and they're now doing the same thing, to the people of Syria. "They did it before, they are doing it again".
 
Do you mean the false flag rubbish they have been doing since god knows when? Do you mean the lying to further their interests even if they knew people were being gassed? Does that include lying about chemical weapons and invading a country based on lies?

I am not sure if you mean the US has never stopped red flagging to create scenario's to further their agendas or their continuous lies that started in vietnam, prior to that i don't know. Using japan as a test ground for a new weapon but that is old news. Be more specific when you say killa says this or that because i am confused as to what i said?

Do you mean that i think the US would ignore the bad guys gassing people and blame someone else to further their cause? They did it in iraq. Your russian story isn't the same thing. They don't need to test weapons so your point is invalid. The US has wanted assad gone for a long time now so furthering their cause by ignoring the actual people behind the attack seems about right for the US who have lied for the last 40 years.

It's fine though take their word as gospel dude, i fully understand how cult logic works. No matter what is said and no matter hiow many lies the people still take the word as gospel. Each to their own.

Show me this undeniable evidence and i will make up my mind. Hide it from me and i will assume you are once again lying as you have done for the last 40 years. Simple really. show me evidence that is undeniable and i won't deny undeniable evidence, show me nothing and you have nothing.

"They did it before, they are doing it again", as Killa says...was used to point out how you keep saying, that "the USA lied about the WMD of Iraq, so they're doing it again with Syria."

How do you know, they don't need to test chemical weapons? Tell us.

Also, keep living in your dreamworld, where only the USA has lied about things, for the last 40 years. ;)

I'm seeing all sides of the issue. You, cult like, see just one side...
 
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As for the "momentum" question, one of the greatest shibboleths of the last three months has been assessments that put the rebels on the losing side of this war. No one seemed to understand why Assad would gas them in Eastern Ghouta because no one seemed to even realize that the rebels had so firmly entrenched themselves in Eastern Ghouta, withstanding gunships, artillery, rockets and even prior releases of nerve toxins. In a very well done piece for Der Spiegel, Christoph Reuter and Holger Stark debunk this conventional wisdom by showing that, apart from the fall of Qusayr and Homs (strategic necessaries for the regime, but not the opposition), Assad's forces have been suffering several debilitating losses. Khan al-Assal in the Aleppo, the sight of an early chemical weapons attack, fell in July as did Minnagh airbase. Last month, rebels took Khan Assir, the last transit corridor for the regime's remaining troops in Aleppo who are now completely choked off. And in Rif Dimashq, Reuter and Stark write, not even the August 21 sarin attack enabled the Fourth Division to retake a single neighborhood, and it sure did try: "Instead, the division lost at least seven tanks in the Damascus neighborhood of Harasta alone. A rebel video provides an insight into the lack of personnel among the elite division: Two crew members flee a burning tank -- but they are wearing no uniforms, no helmets and no radio gear. Shabiha militia members have apparently been forced to fill the gaps in the ranks of the army."

This shows yet again another fatal weakness in Assad's campaign: not only is he running out of viable regular soldiers -- the bulk of whom he's never trusted, and many of whom have either been killed by rebels, confined to barracks, or shot while trying to desert or defect -- but he is relying more and more on guerrilla militias to do his fighting for him. Not all of these are acting directly on orders from Damascus High Command. The Syrian Arab Army, in other words, is losing its command and control capability and becoming more and more like... the Free Syrian Army.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2013/09/05/syria_and_the_byzantine_strategy.html
 
I am not one sided, i am extremely greatful to the US for helping defeat hitler and i am sure everyone is. I can even look past the nuclear bombing.

Also, keep living in your dreamworld, where only the USA has lied about things, for the last 40 years.

I do not live in that world, you have basically said the US have lied for the last 40 years but they are not alone, yet even after admitting they are liars(let's contain this to the US) you believe undeniable evidence without it being presented based on known liars telling you they have it?

Now to me that defies all logic and can only be cult mentality. I don't know who to believe, i don't think assad would be so stupid after a two and half years and a battle which he is winning, to throw that work away when UN inspectors land in the country but that is what they may have banked on.

Now i am not saying the US do or do not have evidence. However any logical intelligent president would bank on the UN making fools of russia and china and show them to be supporters of chemical weapons by presenting the evidence that is undeniable, sand wasn't good enough last time though, certainly had a deniable factor to it(never got a chance to ask which side used the weapons because it was sand, perhaps magical talking sand for obama). Did obama think he had such a big following that the cult like mentality would actually buy that crap? Cult like mentality is disappearing quickly and the word of the US means bugger all to most people.

So call me anti US, call me whatever you like. If you claim you have undeniable proof then russia and china could not and would not veto an attack because the international community would think they support chemical weapon usage. Rather give your word which is worthless and your cult like followers will believe you because they cannot think for themselves and will continue to believe the word of people they know lie and yes granted i understand the US are not alone in the lying department but what does that have to do with anything? You know they lie and admit they lie yet you accept their word and believe whatever they tell you. Logic has left the building. I am amazed you admitted you know they have lied for 40 years and then you still take their word and believe them knowing they lie.

alan let's not start the infowars vs realworld linking please. Everyone denied every single link i put up last night as rubbish and the site looked dodgy well then we can rule your link out alan, interesting though.
 
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Guess it depends what & where one reads Alan

"For months we have not been able to advance along a front," said a commander of the Salafist militia, Ahrar al-Sham, who did not want to be named. "This will allow us to fight more like an army."
Guardian 25th August
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/25/syrian-rebels-weapons-shipment

@Lightscribe - Why don't you rather find us a nice link to read about the Qatar/Saudi gas pipeline they want to get thru to Turkey to further feed to Europe that seems to connect reasons why involved parties might be up to what they are.
 
Alan read this, http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnes...supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

Now it will be written off as lies straight off the bat. Not even a consideration given because it does not support the word of the US.
As far as i know mintpress are the only source so that is always dodgy, regardless of my views i know an article copied and pasted across the board is not legit for the most part but it could be legit. So hard to tell.

If obama would just present us with the undeniable evidence we could all be calling for assads removal.
 
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Everyone lies when it suits them. Sure, that means I'm saying that I know the USA lies. Your cult blabber is off target. I did not say I believed them. I said look at the possibility that Russia is simply doing in Syria, what it did in Afghanistan.

The reactions to Obama's hesitation to rush in, shows people that mock him and want the USA to attack...not people that are thankful he did not strike.

@Tun@ - I've shown that already, even reposting for Killa...

I'll make the "they did it before, so they're doing it again" point a few times, about chemical weapons used by the Russians on the people of Afghanistan, which they seem to be doing to the people of Syria now.
 
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Everyone lies when it suits them. Sure, that means I'm saying that I know the USA lies. Your cult blabber is off target. I did not say I believed them. I said look at the possibility that Russia is simply doing in Syria, what it did in Afghanistan.

The reactions to Obama's hesitation to rush in, shows people that mock him and want the USA to attack...not people that are thankful he did not strike.

@Tun@ - I've shown that already, even reposting for Killa...

I'll make the "they did it before, so they're doing it again" point a few times, about chemical weapons used by the Russians on the people of Afghanistan, which they seem to be doing to the people of Syria now.

Lightscribe i think you have missed my point dude, you are making excuses for the americans and saying everyone else does it and i agree with you, my question to you is why you have so much support and belief when you know they lie so much? I don't know who is telling the truth because unlike you i don't have faith in anyone nor do i believe everything that country/person tells me because i know they must back it up. I certainly would not be taking putins word if they were in the position the US is in, i would want the proof as would the americans as would you want the proof if it was russia.

See the fundamental difference between people like tuna, myself and yourself is that tuna and myself don't see the logic in the attack but we have not ruled out the possibility because we do not blindly and ignorantly take the word of known liars(obama, assad, putin all included), secret undeniable proof does tend to make me back the side who is asking for the evidence to be out in the open though.

The US however have come out and said they have undeniable proof but they cannot show anyone. To me that screams we have no proof and we hope our cult like following is still strong enough to believe our word. Sadly as this thread proves, they are 100% correct thinking they won't need to ever show the proof.
 
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Lightscribe you are willing to back the same country that said the same things about iraq? In my opinion whether obama or bush is in power the policies very rarely differ.

If John Kerry’s rhetorically aggressive speech on Syria sounded familiar, perhaps it’s because another secretary of state made similar remarks a decade ago in laying out the case for a U.S. military operation in the Middle East.

On Feb. 5, 2003, Colin Powell–with diagrams, electronic intercepts and satellite photographs in tow—spent two hours telling members of the United Nations Security Council that Iraq was aiding terrorists and concealing weapons of mass destruction.

President George W. Bush’s foreign policy chief said the evidence was “irrefutable and undeniable.”

The UK didn't want to make the same mistake only to find out they never had anything but curveball.

Undeniable proof has been proven to have been deniable. Why worry this is obama not bush. Take obama giving you his word he has undeniable proof that is so secret he can't reveal it. let's go bombing baby.
 
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Syria plunging Mideast into sectarian war?

As they contemplate military action against Syria, one of many considerations members of Congress and Obama administration officials have to weigh is how a U.S. strike against the regime of Bashar al-Assad might effect the already complicated, even poisonous, state of Sunni-Shia relations in the region.
Three of the leading Sunni states, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the UAE, have already offered their military assets if a US strike happens.
Last week, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said that the Shia government of Iran and close Syrian ally Russia would work in "extensive cooperation" to protect Syria.

Already in July, the United Nations recorded the highest death toll in Iraq since 2008, when the Iraq War was raging. In that month alone, more than 1,057 civilians and security personnel were killed. Many of those deaths were the result of bombings claimed by the Sunni terrorist group al-Qaeda in Iraq and were directed at Shia targets.

It's a very old story. The two dominant sects of Islam, Sunni and Shia, first split over the issue of who was the rightful successor of the Prophet Muhammad following his death in 632.
The conflict between the two sects has waxed and waned over the many centuries since, but right now the Syrian conflict could exacerbate the regional split along sectarian lines that we have seen over the past few years.

In 2011 the Sunni monarchy of the Gulf state of Bahrain backed by more than a thousand soldiers from Saudi Arabia put down with harsh tactics an uprising by its disadvantaged Shia majority population. The Bahrain government hinted that the uprising was an Iranian plot.
The sectarian conflicts in Syria, Iraq and Bahrain have also spilled over into Lebanon and Egypt. On June 23, in Lebanon's port city of Sidon, soldiers clashed with supporters of a hardline Sunni cleric, Sheikh Ahmed al-Assir, who had spoken out vehemently against the Syrian regime as well as the Shia Lebanese militant group, Hezbollah.
On the same day, four Egyptian Shia Muslims were stabbed, beaten, and dragged through the streets by members of a hardline Sunni group in the Giza neighborhood of Cairo.

The intensifying sectarian tensions in Egypt were partially the fault of the recently-ousted Muslim Brotherhood government. A week before the Giza attack, for example, President Mohamed Morsi had appeared on stage with hardline clerics who called Shias "filthy." And in May, Salafist members of Egypt's parliament denounced Shias as "a danger to Egypt's national security."
Beyond the Middle East, sectarian violence has also soared in South Asia over the past few years. More than 180 members of Pakistan's minority Shi'a Hazara community were killed in two massive bombings in the first two months of 2013 alone.
In neighboring Afghanistan, violent attacks on Shia Muslims are less frequent, but in December 2011, two nearly simultaneous suicide bombs in Kabul and Mazar-i-Sharif killed more than 60 Shia civilians as they celebrated the annual religious festival of Ashura.
We can expect sectarian tensions to continue boiling across the Muslim world, as the Syrian conflict grinds on and political and social unrest persist in many countries in the region.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar have mobilized their deep coffers to support extremist Sunni groups in the past, and will continue to do so as long as it means they are able to counterbalance Iran and its support for Shia regimes and militant groups.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/04/opinion/bergen-sectarian-war-syria/?hpt=hp_bn7
 
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IMO that's rather simplified. The Sunni side is just so fractured itself. The Islamic extremists have Al Qaeda, Wahabis and Muslim Brotherhood fighting among themselves. Then there are the secular militarists, socialists and democrats and this all on the Sunni side alone.
 
Problems i see there and the one is a point they make pretty obvious.

1. In 9 months from now 100000 iraqi civilians would have been killed. Perhaps sooner as the violence is escalating month after month.
2. 99% of the deaths in iraq occur due to terror attacks, most notably the car bomb.
3. 100000 people have not been killed terrorist style in syria, many of them include syrian soldiers and rebels fighters and many include casualties of war which has been acceptable in any war situation to most people, it is expect but car bombs and suicide bombing cannot be considered casualties of war surely? I could be mistaken saying that.
4. Bahrain claim iran was responsible for the vast majority of bahrain people who want freedom, much like the ANC were dominated the minority that is bahrain. However even though i use bahrain as an example of double standards having seen what happens when dictators fall, leave them in power. The people have shown they are not capable of peace.
 
Lightscribe i think you have missed my point dude, you are making excuses for the americans and saying everyone else does it and i agree with you, my question to you is why you have so much support and belief when you know they lie so much? I don't know who is telling the truth because unlike you i don't have faith in anyone nor do i believe everything that country/person tells me because i know they must back it up. I certainly would not be taking putins word if they were in the position the US is in, i would want the proof as would the americans as would you want the proof if it was russia.

Yes, I, like everyone else, would also like for the cannister to be produced, with it's Russian specs printed conveniently on there, with it having been filmed and tracked on radar and witnessed landing by at least 1000 respectable males of the correct faith without once having been lost sight of by at least 100 certified chemical specialists and then presented to the world...

However this is the real world. Look at the second quote again...yes, the piece that starts with "The source added that..." http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...ict-Thread?p=11102143&viewfull=1#post11102143

See the fundamental difference between people like tuna, myself and yourself is that tuna and myself don't see the logic in the attack but we have not ruled out the possibility because we do not blindly and ignorantly take the word of known liars(obama, assad, putin all included), secret undeniable proof does tend to make me back the side who is asking for the evidence to be out in the open though.

Again, read the link above. It's pretty obvious that both sides have used chemical weapons. Again, I and others here, do not "blindly and ignorantly take the word of known liars". We are waiting for the evidence, to keep coming.

That surely is not hard to grasp...right? We are all waiting...for more evidence, on top of that already mentioned above, earlier, before...Mkkk?

The US however have come out and said they have undeniable proof but they cannot show anyone. To me that screams we have no proof and we hope our cult like following is still strong enough to believe our word. Sadly as this thread proves, they are 100% correct thinking they won't need to ever show the proof.

Again, the only one that is cult like, is you, in that you refuse to read what others post, or are so sure others believe the proof without seeing it, that you cannot comprehend that we actually are all, also waiting for more evidence.

Try hop around all confused a little less and actually take the time, to follow links others post, to read what they post, to comprehend what people post.

Only you have been freaking out about this evidence the USA must produce, post after post. Everyone else, is waiting patiently. Oh yes, the USA also.
 
The evidence is classified dude, it will only be shown and talked about during classified sessions, so explain to me when you foresee the evidence being released to the public? Before they strike or after, will we see it declassified in 20 years perhaps.

Well if i missed that you don't trust their word i do apologize. Glad to see regardless of the country or person in power people want evidence.

This is shocking:

http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-weapons-troops-458/

The Obama administration’s vacillations on Syria were perhaps best exemplified by Secretary of State John Kerry. Speaking before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, Kerry suggested it would be preferable to give the White House the power to send in ground forces in the event that Syria “imploded” or if chemical weapons were at risk of being obtained by extremists.

They know full well syria is going to implode, it isn't a question of whether it implodes. The only thing standing between syria and imploding is assad, remove him and the obvious will happen.

Total and utter horseshyte that will lead america down the iraq road once again. Only this is just the beginning of a wider war with iran. So kerry has gone from no boots on the ground to the pentagon saying 75000 will be needed if the very things we know are going to happen amazingly happen. OMG we never saw any of this before, now we better respond with an invasion to stop the terrorists, the same people assad is fighting.

O well more dead americans for absolutely no reason as usual. By tuesday we will know how much talk there is and how much action there is, we know the strike will happen, we know syria will implode, we know americans will be pushed into syria based on chemical weapons falling into the wrong hands. Russia, iran, hmmm all talk or some action i wonder?

"Let's shut the door now," Kerry said. "The answer is, whatever prohibition clarifies it to Congress or the American people, there will not be American boots on the ground with respect to the civil war."
Assad falling means no more civil war? So now the war on terror is back on the agenda after they enabled terrorists and they will now go fight the terrorists they said made up a small portion of the rebel groups. So replacing assad by occupation. Booya, iraq 2.0

Kerry is a sneaky bugger. No boots on the ground means no boots on the ground period but they will word it to have a broader meaning. I said no boots on the ground during the civil war, this is now the war on terror again, boots on the ground. So there will be no change for the syrian people, what will change is christians being slaughtered but that won't be the fault of anyone but those nasty terrorists assad was lying about.

I am in shock, a report is claiming obama will be denied. The awakening hopefully but it is just a report on rt, don't know how accurate it is. Not RT reporting on the report haha obviously. http://rt.com/usa/congress-syria-vote-no-466/
 
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Bashar Al-Assad launched the chemical attack which killed hundreds of people because he 'lost his nerve' in a moment of panic and worried that Damascus would fall to rebel troops, according to new intelligence.

In a telephone call which was tapped by German spy chiefs, a senior Hezbollah commander told the Iranian embassy in Lebanon that Syria's president intended to tilt the balance of power towards the regime in the battle for control of the country's capital.

However, it appears that the chemical attack backfired, as it looks set to prompt a major intervention from American and French troops aimed at crippling Assad's military capabilities.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-chemical-attack-scared-rebels-Damascus.html

Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'

Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces' 8200 unit, former official tells magazine

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk

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