Article: No law to liquidate ANCYL

There is no law that allows for the African National Congress Youth League to be wound up, the High Court in Johannesburg heard on Friday.

John Peter, for the ANCYL, said an application for the liquidation of the organisation by Z2 Presentations, trading as University Events Management (UEM), was a "bad winding up application".
 
Slippery buggers, how can they have nothing they can attach? Surely this isn't the same for all organisations that fall in the red?
 
When the kiddies were throwing their toys out the cot under Malema and openly confronting the ANC, Gwede was at pains to explain that the ANCYL was and extention of the mother body, and as such needs to ultimately abide but the ANC's constitution.
A natural progression on that would thus be that the ANC is liable for the outstanding debt.

What say the lawyers?
 
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The sheriff reportedly twice tried to seize ANCYL assets, but found there were none.
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Pretty much the state of affairs concerning anything ANC-related if you ask me ..
 
It also makes a complete mockery of Zuma's statement that if you do business with the ANC your business will multiply, or something to the effect.
Hehe :D
 
The Insolvency Act doesn't suddenly loose currency:
'debtor', in connection with the sequestration of the debtor's estate, means a person or partnership or the estate of a person or partnership which is a debtor in the usual sense of the word, except a body corporate or company or other association of persons which may be placed in liquidation under the law relating to Companies;
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So if it is not subject to Companies laws then it is up the Insolvency Act alley.
Also the case to take the ANC to task is strong. And the Constitution of the Youth League itself should be looked at:
http://www.anc.org.za/docs/const/2004/constitution2004a.pdf
 
White people really created a real dillemma for themselves with "first world legal loophole technicalities" and third-world ambitions to exploit structures for speedy-gains ... (to get to European technical and social levels as soon as possible).
 
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Paul Hjul said:
The Insolvency Act doesn't suddenly loose currency:

So if it is not subject to Companies laws then it is up the Insolvency Act alley.
Also the case to take the ANC to task is strong. And the Constitution of the Youth League itself should be looked at:
http://www.anc.org.za/docs/const/2004/constitution2004a.pdf
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Paul thx, trying to be as informed as possible on issues that I comment on (albeit being a layman on most), however, that document is way to mouldy to chew through, and I have just had a nice dinner ;)

I was relieved that I could 'almost' stop, and avoid retching, after the first paragraph.

The African National Congress Youth League was founded in 1944 as an organisation of the youth
committed to the ideals of democracy, freedom and peace, it is governed by and adheres to the
policies and programmes of the ANC, and its existence derives from the Constitution of the ANC.
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I did however manage to persevere to Article F under much duress.


ARTICLE F: RELATIONSHIP WITH THE AFRICAN NATIONAL CONGRESS
1 The ANCYL shall be a voluntary youth organisation and mass organ of the ANC.
2 The ANCYL shall function as an autonomous body within the overall structure of the ANC of which
it shall be an integral part. It shall be based on the political and ideological objectives of the ANC.
3 The ANCYL shall liaise closely with the ANC at all levels (national, provincial, regional, zonal and
branch levels).
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Gwede needs to write a cheque.
 
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I like how they use "autonomous" and "integral" in the same point. Epic :)
 
This is what happens when you do business with an organization that is corrupt from all the way from the top to the bottom. All the way from JZ to the ANCYL. Pathetic excuse of a political party.
 
Wyzak said:
This is what happens when you do business with an organization that is corrupt from all the way from the top to the bottom. All the way from JZ to the ANCYL. Pathetic excuse of a political party.
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But they are not suppose to be a political party. They started as a movement driven by extremists ... and they still are today.
 
Good.

I hope that companies now learn a lesson. Any work coming from Government or semi-government institutions or in fact an company linked to Government in some way - Cash Only - Upfront.
 
So what they are saying is "start a political party to do all your shady business deals with" ?
 
surely the individuals themselves should be held accountable?
 
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I hope that companies now learn a lesson. Any work coming from Government or semi-government institutions or in fact an company linked to Government in some way - Cash Only - Upfront.
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Uh. I don't see how this is relevant to the credit rating of the government.
 
Nicodeamus said:
surely the individuals themselves should be held accountable?
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That's right.

Either the ANCYL is a legal person in it's own right. (An NPO, political party company, trust CC etc), or a branch or division of a larger organisation, (the ANC), in which case it becomes liable, or any persons who chose to transact on behalf of the ANCYL become liable.

There is no loophole.
 
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