Interdict brought by Dotco: Telkom sets the record straight

*snort*

okay so seems the matter was not heard in court but a solution was proposed to postpone all hearings to 5 december - i cannot think that telkom wouold do this unless they were concerned about their chances

and correct me if i am wrong but is this not the first clear statement by telkom as regards the 1 november changes...what it takes to get an little communication
 
dominic, do you think that DOTCO has a good chance of winning from what you have read so far?
 
It should be noted that broadband capping is an international norm. Both the British Telecommunication 512k services have a 15 gigabyte a month cap, while its 1 megabyte service has a 30 gigabyte limit. Other telecommunications companies that employ a similar practice include Australia’s Telstra, Belgium’s Belgacom and New Zealand Telecom.
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dude, thats for there entry level, really cheap packages, that cost a crap load less then ours, and how the (*&@^# can you compare 3 gigs to 15\30 gigs, and justify that your just following international trends
 
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It should be noted that broadband capping is an international norm. Both the British Telecommunication 512k services have a 15 gigabyte a month cap, while its 1 megabyte service has a 30 gigabyte limit. Other telecommunications companies that employ a similar practice include Australia’s Telstra, Belgium’s Belgacom and New Zealand Telecom.
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I think we should check the accuracy of this statement. Also funny how Telkom states that BT cap at 30 gigs and then in the previous paragraph call using 30 gigs 'abuse'. Ja Telkom.
 
It should be noted that broadband capping is an international norm. Both the British Telecommunication 512k services have a 15 gigabyte a month cap, while its 1 megabyte service has a 30 gigabyte limit. Other telecommunications companies that employ a similar practice include Australia’s Telstra, Belgium’s Belgacom and New Zealand Telecom.
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This is the first time ever Telkom gives cap sizes for other countries. They just always said capping is an international practice, without mentioning our pathetic 3GB cap compared to BT's 15GB (512K BTHome) and 30GB (1024K BTHome) offerings.They made it sound like 3GB was the international norm.

Just remember that the BT capping is for home users only and does not apply to business clients - who enjoy unlimited access. For GBP 29.99 per month you can get an uncapped unshaped 2MB ADSL connection with a free router included.

http://www.btbroadbandoffice.com/broadband/btq3/bt8?campaignid=bthomepage
 
MaryJane said:
dominic, do you think that DOTCO has a good chance of winning from what you have read so far?
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no idea - will be largely a contractual matter i.e. contract between them and telkom which will dictate the outcome

dotco have of course now stepped into the ring with the big gorilla and i hope they can stay the distance
 
dominic said:
what it takes to get an little communication
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Ahmen brutha!!!

I fail to see how Telkom's claim that their new billing policy will not increase the overall cost of adsl. No more local bandwidth after the cap means that you will have to buy more, ultimately from Telkom
They misrepresented the facts to ICASA at the ADSL hearings about who was doing the capping then, claiming it was the isp's.
Now they are just passing the buck and restructuring their billing methods to make sure that it is the isp's and not them diverting attention. Now they just wash their hands of it all and say its not their fault, and their comparisons to other countries bandwidth caps might be accurate if we were paying a similar price for a similar service which we are clearly not.
Another misrepresentation designed to pull the wool over everyones eyes. fuugggooffffffff
edit: so the record is not exactly straight.
 
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It is a wholesale issue, which provides each ISP with the flexibility to determine its own ADSL product offerings.
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at a vastly inflated price.

No shame. We really can't blame Telkom for the ABSOLUTELY HUGE price increases... I mean obviously it's a business strategy by the ISPs to offer something at R299 and then inflate the price to R1700... this statement makes Telkom seem to be the poor innocent wholesalers who are just being abused by the naughty people who want to read more than 30 emails a day...

I give up. I've tried to be nice to Telkom in the past but really... ******* **** TELKOM in their ******* arse **** heads those ******* ****ers! ^_^
 
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These fools (Telscum) are justifying their cappping against other countries who impose MUCH HIGHER caps at MUCH LOWER prices. How the hell do these people sleep at night with the amount of lies and deception they feed to us in return for our hard-earned money??? Oh... I guess I just answered my own question.
 
I was looking at some of the pricing structures and it looks like the ISP will resell the bandwidth anywhere from R75/GB to R95/GB. That means if we were to take and use 15GB/Month we'd end up paying around R1125 a month.

Looking at capped BT 20GB account the cost in pounds is 26.99 or roughly R330 per month. To add insult to injury 27 pounds is roughly the amount you'd pay online for a case of 24 heinekens in the UK. I wonder really who is ripping who off.

Our company uses IS and the cost for a 512 line unlimited bandwidth is R 1350 which by international standards is still not great but a lot better than using Telkom.

ISP's should move away from SAIX and pump money rather into other providers who do not rely on SAIX for international bandwidth and see where the fight goes then. There are at least 4 other providers out their who do not need SAIX.

If Telkom has contractually provided 30GB accounts then sue their a$$.
 
Telkoms whole statement is utter and complete rubbish. All it says is that we justify F##cking you up the arse with a pineapplel and there is nothing you can do about it!!!!

Please someone save ME!!!!!! Show me where on earth we are in par with international standards pricing wise or service wise!!!!!!????? WHERE IS THAT COMPARISON........I FOR ONE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT!!!!!!
 
if the isp's had been buying 3gig and selling it as 3gig instead of 30 the pricing would actually be going down.

If you are a normal (the large majority of adsl users) who use less than 3gig this whole thing is good cause it will be cheaper for them.

There is NO price increase!!!! They never offered 30gig at R300...it was stolen (stolen cars are always cheaper)
If the isp's hadnt been stealing gigs none of this would have happened
 
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We saw this exact argument coming from a mile away.

The hardcap dance was exactly what was expected (Talk lots and say nothing)

But comparing themselves to international caps is the funniest thing I've ever seen! smack yourself in the face why don't you.
 
If Telkom has contractually provided 30GB accounts then sue their a$$.
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Problem with that is that not all the ISPs have the same agreement with Telkom. That's why the DotCo December 5th thing is so important. IF they win then there might be a chance for other ISPs to do their thing.
 
KnightFire said:
Please someone save ME!!!!!! Show me where on earth we are in par with international standards pricing wise or service wise!!!!!!????? WHERE IS THAT COMPARISON........I FOR ONE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT!!!!!!
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I don't think you'll be saved on that one.
 
If the isp's hadnt been stealing gigs none of this would have happened
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How much bandwidth do you use? Are you one of the people who uses below 3GB?

Even if you are, it doesn't matter how the 30GB was attained. Telkom let it happen.

Even if we disregard that Telkom let it slide, you should be pissed because you're paying more for your crappy 3GB HARD CAP on your 512k/1024k line than people in the UK are paying for their UNCAPPED 2MB lines!

You can't lay the blame at the feet of the ISPs. In this, nobody is to blame but Telkom. They post colossal profits and then moan about expenditure. They raise telecoms prices so that only the very, very few can afford even a basic land line. They publically compare themselves to internationaly companies and then say "agh we're not able to do it like they do".

/end rant.
 
Telkom Line Bye Bye

I have had enough of this Telkom (Spit) bull. I have just cancelled my Telkom(Spit) voice line and I will never ever buy anything from Telkom (spit) again. The next thing I plan to do is cancel my Vodacom cell phone.

If you can rid the Telkom Group (Spit) out of your life, do it now!!

Bye
 
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