ASA says iBurst is not broadband

This does make things tricky ... wonder what will happen with the appeal? Perhaps there is a legal route that iBurst can take to challenge this (if ASA rules against them again) because it looks like it may cost them a pretty packet to change their ads.
 
Hi Noswal

We are busy with a follow up article, but this ruling essentially disqualifies all wireless broadband offerings as being advertised as broadband without some sort of disclaimer. I am not entirely certain if a short disclaimer saying that you will need a certain signal strength etc will do, but that is nearly all I can see as a solution to the wireless broadband ruling.

Regards,

RPM
 
Abe said:
I am guessing that the Telkom 4Meg ADSL is the only broadband option in SA. <SARCASM>Which is supprising considering ICASA's rock hard stance on Telkom</SARCASM>
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Unless I am missing something... looks like it is the only option.
 
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ICASA however seems somewhat confused regarding the definition of broadband, and despite defining broadband as having a minimum download speed of 256 kbps in the ADSL regulations, it advised the ASA to use the yardstick of 1.5 Mbps to 2 Mbps as the characteristic of a broadband connection.


OK, so South Africa Does not have BROADBAND. 1.5 to 2 Mbps DOWNLOAD? MMMM. Hey I am sure that if this is applied to Iburst it must be applied to All providers. :confused:
 
This is indeed very interesting. I have noticed the discrepancy wrt the 256kbps vs. 1.5Mbps in one of the ICASA documents a couple of months ago, when I was in dispute with our ISP (in our estate) about their alleged Broadband offering.

Basically we are back to square one. When do you guys think we will have Broadband in SA? :D
 
if the criteria for broadband is a constant 1.5 - 2.0 Mib/s then none of the adsl/3g/iburst optionscan be considered broadband.

I have seen 8Kib/s on a 4MiB adsl line from I site that I know can do almost full line speed.

e.
 
evilsee said:
if the criteria for broadband is a constant 1.5 - 2.0 Mib/s then none of the adsl/3g/iburst optionscan be considered broadband.

I have seen 8Kib/s on a 4MiB adsl line from I site that I know can do almost full line speed.
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Actually that is correct. Unless Telskum can guarantee a minimum of 2 Meg on their 4 Meg lines then they are not "broadband" either. How does this impact the ISP's if at all? What if you have a 4 Meg line and a 512K Uncapped or just a normal shaped 3GB package that is not performing as it should? Do they have to stop saying "Broadband" as well?

Cheers

Abe
 
more confusion thanks to the DoC's inability to recognize and adapt to a dynamic industry.
 
“ICASA submitted, inter alia, that its regulations on ADSL do not apply to wireless internet. Wireless internet is currently unregulated. Accordingly, the definition of broadband in the regulations should be viewed in that context and has a limited application,” the report states.
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So one standard for ADSL, another for wireless internet. Thought we'd expect higher speeds from ADSL as opposed to wireless, that's in line with international standards. Looks like ICASA's supporting Telkom again, what a surprise!
 
Abe said:
Actually that is correct. Unless Telskum can guarantee a minimum of 2 Meg on their 4 Meg lines then they are not "broadband" either. How does this impact the ISP's if at all? What if you have a 4 Meg line and a 512K Uncapped or just a normal shaped 3GB package that is not performing as it should? Do they have to stop saying "Broadband" as well?

Cheers

Abe
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Seeing as you have to guarantee a constant speed of 2mbps doesn't that mean a 3GB package wouldn't be true broadband. That 3GB's would run out pretty quickly at 2mbps!
 
so from this it sounds like that in order to be termed broadband u have to supply at least 256kps and be able to guarantee that rate. But I don't think that any provider, including telskum, can guarantee theirs speeds provided. So logically, if this applies to iBurst, then we can force telskum to pull their ads for broadband as well :D
 
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Don't miss the boat... stop thinking about what to call a misrepresented product. Bring the product up to the standards you advertise.

For too long the providers have been hiding behind flimsy environmental excuses for not delivering the service they market. Its high time they are brought to book, since a lot of the time even under "ideal" conditions you don't achieve the advertised speeds. This goes for the mythical [-]2[/-]4GB adsl as well.

Its time for them to put their capital where there mouths are.
Exchanges and base stations/high sites need to be more closely spaced to achieve the QOS they need with a shorter LL, maybe then their exhorbitant rates will be justified.
 
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Oh dear. While this is a fairly large step backwards in some ways it's still quite gratifying to see that we have no broadband. See? My sig is always right :D

Wonder what is going to come of this...
 
It should be obvious to the Authority that no operator anywhere on the planet can guarantee a minimum download speed qualifying as broadband 100% of the time,” Knott-Craig continued.
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Really no operator on the planet? What planet are your from moron!
 
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