iBurst unhappy with 'rogue wireless operators'

The reason why these rogues exist is the minister, ICASA and Telkom.

Telkom for providing overcharged, unreliable, ancient technology services.

ICASA for never never kind of regulation

The minister for not doing anything real about the problems.

The rogues are a symptom of the frustration of the public. People are taking the law in their own hands due to the lack of effective government in this sector.
 
iBurst is getting sad .They lost a big contract so now they are pikking on the small people again.Shame to them!!!
 
nice article Cara

unfortunately mr mtshali is living in a fantasy land

iBurst is complaining about rogue wireless operators which according to them degrade the radio spectrum.

iBurst have a big stake to protect in the radio spectrum arena as they are one of the few providers to have acquired legal spectrum, including 3.5 GHz WiMax spectrum. This has placed them in the unique position of being a very valuable partner for other players looking for this scarce resource.
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pls explain how ISM usage causes interference in 3.5 Ghz.

Against the law

According to iBurst these “rogue wireless Internet Service Providers (ISPs) providing Internet access to consumers in contravention of the Telecommunications Act put extreme pressure on South Africa’s scarce radio spectrum.”
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Telecomms Act?
may i humbly suggest that iBurst get its own technical ducks in a row before pointing fingers

“Ultimately, people must decide whether they want to be customers of the Enrons and Masterbonds of the Internet industry,” said Thami Mtshali, CEO of iBurst.
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!!! sailing extremely close to defamation

Only certain operators such as iBurst are licensed to build their own public communications networks added the wireless provider.

iBurst are throwing their full weight behind this initiative by warning these rogue ISPs that ICASA have contacted the South African Police Services (SAPS) to assist in this matter.
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seems iBurst is intent on taking on Telkom's previous role as "regulator in and for its own interests"...have ICASA really contacted the SAPS mr mtshali...i wonder if you could provide some evidence of this?

“We hope that consumers will not be seduced by unrealistic promises and remember that doing business with potential criminals will harm South Africa’s war on crime,” said Mr Mtshali.
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:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

ah dammit you made made me go an use the vomit smiley for the first time - that is a shocking piece of drivel mr mtshali

Degredation of radio spectrum

iBurst is concerned that if ICASA do not step up to the plate and prevent rogue operators from providing services the available radio spectrum in certain areas will degrade.
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mr mtshali is clearly clueless as to ICASA's current approach to this matter

An additional concern is that these operators are selling inferior services which iBurst call “unreliable, saturated and high latency ADSL lines.”
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without doubt there are issues here and the are intiatives being conducted between industry and ICASA to sort out the cowboys, chancers and amplifiers

ICASA short of revenue

According to iBurst, illegal operators also rob the regulator of revenue from the license fees which the operators should be forced to pay.

These funds, iBurst says, could be used to bolster the resources of the regulator it is currently lacking.

By appealing to the pocket of ICASA it looks like iBurst is hoping for decisive action in this matter.
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...wearing his ignorance on his sleeve. Hello - ICASA does not get funded out of licence revenue but out of the national revenue fund....

Consumers in hot water

iBurst further expressed the concern that consumers who have thrown in their lot with these illegal operators face possible disconnection without compensation.

“Consumers who didn’t carefully choose wireless ISPs with solid track records now face disconnection as ICASA cracks down on illegal operators. ICASA’s view is that all wireless operators outside of wireless hotspots in specific areas and limited in size are illegal,” said iBurst.

Consumers who are getting their services from unlicensed operators are not protected by the licensing agreements that ICASA have in place.

“License conditions stipulate certain minimum service standards and make operators liable for contraventions. Consumers are therefore at risk of paying unlicensed operators for a sub-standard service,” said iBurst.
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...flights of absolute fantasy mr mtshali

mr mtshali should take a a nice leisurely browse through the iburst forum on myadsl before he starts spouting off about "sub-standard" service

It seems like the legal wireless provider is urging the regulator to take a harder line on illegal operators to not only protect the consumer but also their assets.
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its not so much about protecting their assets as about trying to hijack a client base...the "rogues" have a greater market share than iBurst

grrrrrrrrr - this kind of emotive carp and wilful ignoring of the facts really really really makes me mad
 
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Err..how do I set up one of these illegal networks?!!?!?! please advise!!! PM me....SERIOUSLY!!!
 
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<6yr old kids tantrum> NOT FAIR!!! I had to pay for a license </6yr old kids tantrum>

Altho I think WISP's should be closed down... they degrade the spectrum for ligitimate ISM purposes.
 
iBurst is a bunch of losers. They can't provide anything decent at a competitive price so they hog the WiMAX spectrum and keep other players from using it. I know that it takes some testing before you can deploy a new technology, but this has been dragging on for way too long. Deploy the $#%&*# WiMAX or sell your piss-poor excuse of a company to someone who will. :(
 
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Altho I think WISP's should be closed down... they degrade the spectrum for ligitimate ISM purposes.
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i agree that they should get out of 2.4 or at the very least operate in a manner which allows ample spectrum for non-commercial uses

migration to higher ism frequencies is happening - ICASA actually making some spectrum available would be first prize
 
IBurst is using FUD to scare people into using their services. IBurst your product is overpriced, oversold and underwhelming.

You might want to consider leaving SA, we have something called a free market that will struggle to do business in.
 
The small wisps are probably providing better service than Iburst can and that scares them.
 
Right... can somebody point me to some small rogue wisps? :D

PM me if needed.

@ Dom - excellent dissemination of the facts, thanks.

@ Stoke - it's the only way we can force their hands by using a lot of rogue wisps and abandon the big boys...

Seriously, I am also getting fed up with this all talk and no action thing - there is talk that telecomms costs are too high, there are talks that it must come down, this and that, and it just makes me :sick:
 
“Ultimately, people must decide whether they want to be customers of the Enrons and Masterbonds of the Internet industry,” said Thami Mtshali, CEO of iBurst.

HA HA HA :D:D The only crime being commited here is the one that is draining this country and making it a horrible place to live in as far as advancement and good acheivement is concerned.

You I-burst and you Telkom are THE most unethical businesses I know of around SA. So it would be best if you shut up and do not compare the likes of Enron to these companies who try and make a stand against your BULLSH!T.

I wish i could get on the phone with these guys. Better yet, meet them alone on the beach somewhere!!! Mr. Mtshali you my friend are an ******* :)

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Oh and PM me too if any Rogue WISPS available in Honeydew...I would gladly join
 
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iBurst are throwing their full weight behind this initiative by warning these rogue ISPs that ICASA have contacted the South African Police Services (SAPS) to assist in this matter.
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No, this is where you are confused. The police can't help you - there are no precedents. You will have to go to Vusi Pikoli the NDPP the director of prosecutions. And he will chase you away. Because if he establishes a precedent on wireless then he will have to hunt down fiber, copper and PLC.
 
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