Vodacom 3G Shocker

Gory51

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Hi Guys,

My first post here, but I had to find somewhere to complain about this. I am a new 3g user and wish I had seen this site first as it would answer a lot of questions before signing up. Sales staff selling the 3g contracts either tell white lies, or sometimes just dont know any better.

3 months ago I was looking at 3g and went into a certain Vodashop. The sales guy inside was friendly, and seemed to know what was going on. I was not sure if I needed the 500 Mb or 1 Gig contract and I asked if I took the smaller, could I upgrade at any time after. The answer was a most positive YES. So I thought, ok cool. He asked me to sign a blank form with the 500Meg option ticked only.....as my other details were known to Vodacom, being a cell phone contract customer. This sounded ok, and I took a copy of the form.

2 weeks later I see I am apporaching my limit and call through asking if I can get my contract upgraded as this seemed like my normal usage....gaming, surfing, downloading the odd patch here and there etc...I was told I can only do so at the start of the new month, and I need to buy an ad hoc bolt on this month. Fair enough I accepted this but it was not what was told to me upon signup. I then asked the consultant on the phone to upgrade my package to the 1 Gig and he said he would activate it. - problem solved? NO.

I tried to log in to vodacom4me website ( as advised by the call cenre) to check data usage , but when I tried to do so with my modem number, it stated the number was already in use. This worried me so I logged in to the site with my cell number, and sent a query off to customer care. After having a few replies, none of which hit the mark, I just gave up. I still to this day cannot register my 3g modem number to see balances, etc on my 3g contract. ( I need this for effective data monitoring as the bundled modem software only works on one PC, and that is if you dont format it, which I regularly do to keep it running smooth. I also use the modem at my Dad's house and at work.)

Towards the end of the second month, I finally check my bill and what a shocker. I see a huge amount. I query this and it turns out I am still on the 500 Meg contract. I then kick up a storm for my R1800 data bill. Firstly, I requested an upgrade and was told it would happen, and secondly, I was not aware that out of bundle data is so ridiculously expensive. I was not ever made aware of this at signup, and was only given an Ad sheet stating 20c per Mb with my contract....I believe this is very false info. I also ow see on the MyADSL forums it states that we are supposed to have a cutoff limit for new customers to prevent surprise bills. That never happened in my case, and additionally I never received any of the notifications at any time, even till today that I am ever at 80, 90 and 95% of my data usage.

I then went back to Vodashop and I was refunded some cash, to cover for the first 500 MB that was supposed to be on the 1G bundle while I was still on the 500 MB, and for failing to inform me of higher out of bundle rates at signup. This is an admission they were incorrect. Their excuse was that they did not know the higher out of bundle rates themselves! Ok so I think all is well.....Not! I then try to activate the higher package and I am told this is not possible in the first 3 months of signing up. So now I am suddenly treated like a new Vodacom customer, but when it suits Vodacom, I am an existing customer( for signup puposes, and not limiting my data on new contract). This 3 month probation is actually BS considering I have 2 other cell contracts with Vodacom and which cost me R1500 each month. This is also not what I was told upon signup, if you refer to my initial query with the sales person.

The next month, I get another R2000 bill. The problem is that this bill was actually incurred just prior to me making all the noise the month before. You only end up paying you bill, 2 months after you started using the data. You open a contract, use data that month.....at the end of the month a bill is sent for payment the end of the following month. So thats 2 months from when you start the data usage. At no time while I was complaining about the high data rates, and my contract not being upgraded was I told that there was already another bill in the post with the same problem. So I was refunded for the previosu months data, while the sales person keep quite about the second bill on the way. I find that very poor show.

SO out of all of this I have had to pay a R3600 bill this month. I cannot see how a contract 2Gb package costs R489, and Vodacom can justify charging me R2000 for around 1,5 Gb of data. It is actually crazy. This info is not made known when you take out these contracts and is very very misleading to the public. Bear in mind, I took out this contract because it is R250......because that is what I could afford......not R2000.

I accept that there has to be a higher out of bundle rate, but the example I used above just shows that we are being unknowingly ripped off here. I also object to this insane amount as I wanted to upgrade my package in the very first month, and was not allowed to do so. I am therefore tied into using data at higher costs for the first 3 months.

Vodacoms site has a problem letting me get access to monitor my own data usage, and the problem is most definitely on their side. How can I be held accountable for this data usage if I cannot be given acces to monitor it, or even verify if it is in fact my usage? I do have the emails querying this login problem, if anybody is wondering.

I would like to see what Vodacoms response to all this is.
 
Hi Guys,

I would like to see what Vodacoms response to all this is.

Quite a gory story........:sick:

Pass me the data number (the cell number of your data contract) and I'll follow up. You raise a number of relevant points.

Actually I'll PM you my e-mail addy. Mail me the whole story (this post + all your contact details) and I'll get some answers.
 
I vote we get V3G a superhero outfit asap...Your a trojan boet..always there to help out,thanks.
 
I was not sure if I needed the 500 Mb or 1 Gig contract and I asked if I took the smaller, could I upgrade at any time after.
..

I was told I can only do so at the start of the new month, and I need to buy an ad hoc bolt on this month.

I think [if i'm understanding correctly], the "keyword" to use here is : MIGRATE your -contract- if you want a more "permanent" solution to this. "Upgrade" might end up being the whole "ad-hoc bundle activation before month end" thing you are currently doing. As far as i know the latter method requires mostly your "manual" instruction every single month on what must happen.


This worried me so I logged in to the site with my cell number, and sent a query off to customer care. After having a few replies, none of which hit the mark, I just gave up.

Reset your password [with the "forgot my password" link] . It HAS to send your password via SMS to your SIM . Chances that someone else have the exact same number as you are slim, so the password should reach you.
 
...I also ow see on the MyADSL forums it states that we are supposed to have a cutoff limit for new customers to prevent surprise bills...
AFAIK that only applies to the 4U contract for the first 3 months, and not any other contract that I know of, perhaps you could post a link to where you saw that on the MyADSL forums?
 
HI guys, thanks for the welcome, and thanks for the speedy responses. Also thank you to vodacom3g for having a look into this. I have sent you an email with some more details. It is all I can remember for now.

Sorry for the loooong speech, I just felt I need to explain all the issues at once to highlight my frustration.
 
AFAIK that only applies to the 4U contract for the first 3 months, and not any other contract that I know of, perhaps you could post a link to where you saw that on the MyADSL forums?


Quoted below


3. YOUR VODACOM INVOICE / STATEMENT

......

• Will Vodacom place a limit on my monthly bill?
In order to protect you from any ‘surprises’ in your Vodacom bill, all new Vodacom customers will be subject to a monthly data charge limit for the first 3 months. Please ask your Vodacom sales consultant to indicate what your monthly data charge limit will be. Please note. This is NOT a guaranteed service.


This is in the Data Bundles FAQ I saw today...link ishere
 
OK, have escalated.

The one thing I believed caused a lot of the pain was the lack of a 3G data number with the contract. Thus you could not log into 4me......:rolleyes:

I've also addressed this but in the mean-time, SMS yourself from the data card and check the sender number.

Now you've got the number to log into 4me.
 
I have the E220 USB modem, and it has different software to my friends data card. He has an option to send sms from his 3G software, whereas I do not have this option. I cannot see it anywhere on thw software which instals automatically from the modem...

Will have another look in any case.

Thanks
 
I have the E220 USB modem, and it has different software to my friends data card. He has an option to send sms from his 3G software, whereas I do not have this option. I cannot see it anywhere on thw software which instals automatically from the modem...

Will have another look in any case.

Thanks

THe latest VMLite on vodacom.co.za can do SMS's but probably easier to just pop it in a phone and SMS from there.....
 
Hi Guys,

My first post here, but I had to find somewhere to complain about this. I am a new 3g user and wish I had seen this site first as it would answer a lot of questions before signing up. Sales staff selling the 3g contracts either tell white lies, or sometimes just dont know any better.

For full story see post 1

I would like to see what Vodacoms response to all this is.

SNAP
Ahmen brother to all of the above, accept my amounts are much larger. (It is now David against Goliath)
We are in our 4th month and still fighting with our ISP and still no response from them.

Who is your ISP ????
 
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Out of bundle Warnings

@v3g.

I would like to suggest the following. That all new customers get told the following via SP's,VSP, everybody that sells broadband data contracts with out of bundle rates.

1) 1st 3 months data gets locked/blocked or whatever limit can be put on.
2) Warning sms's will be sent as a warning. !!
3) Use mm to 31050 to check data balance.
4) Please beware out of bundle rates are very expensive.

A big red warning note should be put in every modem box warning of the expense.

Removed.

As gory51 is saying, I budgetted for R 250 or R 349 because that is what I can afford not R 2000 or R 6000. :eek: :mad: :D. Do not worry when v3g & ic are near they will give you good advice.
 
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@v3g.

I would like to suggest the following. That all new customers get told the following via SP's,VSP, everybody that sells broadband data contracts with out of bundle rates.

1) 1st 3 months data gets locked/blocked or whatever limit can be put on.
2) Warning sms's will be sent as a warning. !!
3) Use mm to 31050 to check data balance.
4) Please beware out of bundle rates are very expensive.

A big red warning note should be put in every modem box warning of the expense.

This is best said in afrikaans.

Dit is mos nou lekka ek kan musiek aflaai, movies aflaai, tv oppie internet kyk,
een duisend miljoen dis mos flippin baie WOW.

As gory51 is saying I budgetted for R 250 or R 349 because that is what I can afford not R 2000 or R 6000. :eek: :mad: :D. Do not worry when v3g & ic is near.

Was there nothing in the box that came with the card?
 
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I was just about to mention that quite a while back, you compiled a FAQ & Info pamphlet to go out with all new modems...

? ? ?

I bought my E220 +-2 weeks ago.
Paperlike Contents:
Vodafone Quick start Guide
Quality checked paper
Some Warning paper about using unit in hospitals, the normal bla bla
2CD's
Free callout voucher....cool, I can sell this :D
... :confused:
That’s it. Strange. V3G, was this FAQ & Info pamphlet supposedly to be in my box too? Where can I get one of them?

Gory51 , you clearly walked into the wrong Vodacom shop. While I was buying my E220, the consultant told me about 2 times that I must be aware that on my prepaid package I'm taking this modem on, "there is an OOB charge of R2 per MB. There are bundles available" etc.
 
? ? ?

I bought my E220 +-2 weeks ago.
Paperlike Contents:
Vodafone Quick start Guide
Quality checked paper
Some Warning paper about using unit in hospitals, the normal bla bla
2CD's
Free callout voucher....cool, I can sell this :D
... :confused:
That’s it. Strange. V3G, was this FAQ & Info pamphlet supposedly to be in my box too? Where can I get one of them?

Gory51 , you clearly walked into the wrong Vodacom shop. While I was buying my E220, the consultant told me about 2 times that I must be aware that on my prepaid package I'm taking this modem on, "there is an OOB charge of R2 per MB. There are bundles available" etc.


I actually got less in my modem box....will have a look at exact contents again when I get home today. By the way, I took out my modem on 24 month contract, and was never informed of the high out of bundle costs. The salesperson at the shop ( actually I think he is the manager- its a small shop) had to call in to vodacom call centre to query the OOB ( out of bundle?) rates when I asked him....
 
About the problem of Sales Consultants at retail stores, not informing new contract customers, about the basics of the service, I don't know what the solution is, but perhaps the contract forms should be changed to provide the basic information, where both the sales consultant and customer are required to initial to confirm that each of the basics have been explained to the customer by the sales consultant.

Also, consumers should never sign an essentially blank contract form.
 
I must thank vodacom3g for his quick response... I had calls today to help with my complaints. I have also been given my new login details, finally.. Thanks :)

However, I am about to do my nut again. I asked for a R50 limit to be put on my 3G account to prevent surprise bills and when I returned home today, I am barred from connecting. This, according to the 082155 number, is because I am now softlocked AAAAARRRGGHHHHHH!!!

I have been on hold to accounts department for over 30 minutes and gave up.....that is just waaaaay to long to have to wait for a call to be answered. It seems that my account is now locked because of the limit of R50 I applied for today....but I am now barred from getting access to the 500 MB of data I HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR!

Just WTF is going on? I can only be polite for so long, then the fists come up.

Now I know I only logged on for a short while on 1 computer yesterday, and have not even used 30Mb of data in July, so why oh why am I now softlocked? Surely the softlock comes into effect after you have used up you contract bundled amount...not at the beginning....

Please can somebody look into this. By the way, I have had to pull the sim from my cell to use in my 3G USB modem just to make this post and retrieve my emails from the data support at Vodacom- so there is OOB costs again!
 
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