Smart-card ID a must

Lol.

What i think they need to do is CLOSE the boarders and stop letting ppl in. They need to get VISAS to enter SA. Like we cannot even travel with out Paying money for VISAS.

They have nothing better to do.
 
Why they cant just incorporate the info into your drivers licence I'll never understand.
 
Agreed! One card to rule them all :D
Of course I still use my UK drivers license and cant be bothered to queue for an ID book :)
 
Is the problem not that the ID Book cannot store information, so each reader would have to have the details of all citizens, or a net connection to retireve the info based on your ID number..

Whereas the Smart card can store info? Hmmm, is the back of the Drivers Licence a Smart Code, like the ones I-Nigma uses?
 
U only need one plastic card, it can store everything. An id book is rather prehistoric. Having a smartcard is just adding extra wieght to my already overcrowded wallet, and it wastes tax payers money. Why do things twice when it can all be on one card. Another dumb-ass decision.
 
Is the problem not that the ID Book cannot store information, so each reader would have to have the details of all citizens, or a net connection to retireve the info based on your ID number..

Whereas the Smart card can store info? Hmmm, is the back of the Drivers Licence a Smart Code, like the ones I-Nigma uses?
A smart card is a card that can store information digitally on the card itself. If can be written to and read from, without any physical connection, i.e. it uses radio frequency to read, write AND power the card.
Cape Town had smart cards some time ago when the ADO card system was used for parking meters. It worked very well, until they decided that it is far too efficient and convenient and that our life should be complicated through licenced car guards and parking time sellers.
 
Have you seen how cool Zimbabwean drivers licences look. Or how they used to look two or so years ago. I havent seen any Zimbabweans for a while. The cards were made from metal that seemed to be laser cut or etched. Looked really hitech.

I think it will go the route of one card does everything in the not to distant future. The only real concern is security and the power that a criminal can have with a one card does it all system in place.
 
U only need one plastic card, it can store everything. An id book is rather prehistoric. Having a smartcard is just adding extra wieght to my already overcrowded wallet, and it wastes tax payers money. Why do things twice when it can all be on one card. Another dumb-ass decision.

That would make sense, but they can make more money by charging you for each card. :rolleyes: ID books are horrible and truly prehistoric, the first thing my overseas gf said when she saw mine was "It looks so... African". :D lol.

Have you seen how cool Zimbabwean drivers licences look. Or how they used to look two or so years ago. I havent seen any Zimbabweans for a while. The cards were made from metal that seemed to be laser cut or etched. Looked really hitech.

Saw those too, 100 times better than the dodgy ones they issue here.
 
I accept that a card sized ID which can store identity and other government related data is more convenient than a paper book.

However, the rationale given in the story for the new card was not about convenience for residents or about all the additional services that could be managed more effectively. The stated benefit for the new card was about 'sanitising' the population register.

Issuing a new card will not in itself clean up the population register; its the getting everyone to apply for a new ID that will. So time to apply again... It is imperative that Home Affairs sort out their people, process and motivation before rolling this out. It is important that you can obtain a legal ID easility, and cannot obtain a new ID illegally.

I guess it will be possible to centrally mark an ID as invalid, and assuming that using an electronic ID must be put in a reader a stolen/counterfeit IDs can be taken out of circulation.
 
Oooh .. because of corruption we're going to throw technology at the problem and hope it goes away.

Pffffffffffffffff.

Pathetic.

Remove the corruption first idiots. A corrupt system is a corrupt system, no matter what technology you're using.
 
I accept that a card sized ID which can store identity and other government related data is more convenient than a paper book.

However, the rationale given in the story for the new card was not about convenience for residents or about all the additional services that could be managed more effectively. The stated benefit for the new card was about 'sanitising' the population register.

Issuing a new card will not in itself clean up the population register; its the getting everyone to apply for a new ID that will. So time to apply again... It is imperative that Home Affairs sort out their people, process and motivation before rolling this out. It is important that you can obtain a legal ID easility, and cannot obtain a new ID illegally.

I guess it will be possible to centrally mark an ID as invalid, and assuming that using an electronic ID must be put in a reader a stolen/counterfeit IDs can be taken out of circulation.

Even reapplying won't clean it up, if people have legitimate (bought) documents to reapply with then they'll be able to get a new ID.

Of course unless the corruption is routed out this all means nothing because they'll just be able to buy the new one too.
 
We are way behind in this respect. Even one of the third world countries in South America (cant remember exactly which one) Use smart ID's to store you number, fingerprint metric, cornia metric and facial pattern and photo graph on one card. Lets see someone spoof that.
 
Even reapplying won't clean it up, if people have legitimate (bought) documents to reapply with then they'll be able to get a new ID.

Of course unless the corruption is routed out this all means nothing because they'll just be able to buy the new one too.

True indeed... The first problem is difficult, perhaps you just have to accept some historical leakage. What can you do about someone who 'bought' an ID several years ago and there is no other paper work.

The corruption must be stopped (along with crime, poverty, world hunger and disease). Won't be easy, but it'll give us something to do when we can no longer drive our cars about because fuel is too expensive...
 
True indeed... The first problem is difficult, perhaps you just have to accept some historical leakage. What can you do about someone who 'bought' an ID several years ago and there is no other paper work.

The corruption must be stopped (along with crime, poverty, world hunger and disease). Won't be easy, but it'll give us something to do when we can no longer drive our cars about because fuel is too expensive...

My point exactly, its almost impossible to detect at this stage, but that doesn't mean they should allow it to continue.
 
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