savage
Expert Member
We are almost there. We should be placing orders at telkom for additional diginet lines towards the end of the month.
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cubehre
Active Member
Just some info on that 120GB line of which Telkom has 20GB.
They can't use it cause they'll have to pay for the bandwidth.
Listen up ppl... This is NOT a Telkom thing.
We as a country are being screwed by the US.
Interconnect fees to the big bandwidth providers in the states are all for OUR account. We pay for incoming and outgoing and yes for every piece of SPAM that also comes our way.
Other countries have interconnect rates where the ISP's share the costs via some sort of agreement. Here in SA - we aren't considered as part of the Internet backbone... We only hook into it, we're all subscribers to International ISPs. And yep - we are very much the reason ADSL is cheap in other countries and not here.
I am not one to put up and shut-up, but there is absolutely buggerall we can do. Face it - we're being screwed and we're taking it standing up.
They can't use it cause they'll have to pay for the bandwidth.
Listen up ppl... This is NOT a Telkom thing.
We as a country are being screwed by the US.
Interconnect fees to the big bandwidth providers in the states are all for OUR account. We pay for incoming and outgoing and yes for every piece of SPAM that also comes our way.
Other countries have interconnect rates where the ISP's share the costs via some sort of agreement. Here in SA - we aren't considered as part of the Internet backbone... We only hook into it, we're all subscribers to International ISPs. And yep - we are very much the reason ADSL is cheap in other countries and not here.
I am not one to put up and shut-up, but there is absolutely buggerall we can do. Face it - we're being screwed and we're taking it standing up.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cubehre</i>
<br /> And yep - we are very much the reason ADSL is cheap in other countries and not here.
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Are you suggesting that Telkom is subsidising adsl in Europe ?
Does not make sense to me.
Also the cable you refer to connects to India, Malaysia
and South Korea - now compare their adsl rates and terms
of usage and I think you might conclude that the US of A,
although a villian in some spheres, might not be the cause
of our adsl woes here down in the south of africa.
methinks Telkom is the adsl villian.
Also, I might add that we are providing huge call centre
facilities for UK and others. Telkom is deriving huge income
from outside the country -
Imagine if BT capped Telkom's usage -
Now there's a thought [
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<br /> And yep - we are very much the reason ADSL is cheap in other countries and not here.
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Are you suggesting that Telkom is subsidising adsl in Europe ?
Does not make sense to me.
Also the cable you refer to connects to India, Malaysia
and South Korea - now compare their adsl rates and terms
of usage and I think you might conclude that the US of A,
although a villian in some spheres, might not be the cause
of our adsl woes here down in the south of africa.
methinks Telkom is the adsl villian.
Also, I might add that we are providing huge call centre
facilities for UK and others. Telkom is deriving huge income
from outside the country -
Imagine if BT capped Telkom's usage -
Now there's a thought [
]cubehre -
Firstly, IT IS A TELKOM THING - competition drives costs down, stimulates the industry and results in more service offerings based on clients requirements! Right now we swallow the Telkom pill as there is no alternative....
Secondly, yes SA ISP's BUY access to the core backbone (which is actually VERY VERY cheap in comparison) from the large providers, who in turn also pay for peering by the way, regardless of the metrics used to pay for the peering (in / out traffic etc).
The ACTUAL issue is the cost to ISP's of the long haul across the fibre from here to the UK / US (depending on your landing point)- the margin the Telkom is extoring from the SA ISP industry for dedicated long haul, which THEY MUST BUY in order to give THEIR clients QoS (something Telkom KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!)AND the fact that if I want a dedicated circuit from here to Telehouse in the UK I HAVE TO BUY IT FROM TELKOM - I cannot get a competative quote from the likes of AT&T!
The issue is a little more complicated than what you insinuate in your post....
Firstly, IT IS A TELKOM THING - competition drives costs down, stimulates the industry and results in more service offerings based on clients requirements! Right now we swallow the Telkom pill as there is no alternative....
Secondly, yes SA ISP's BUY access to the core backbone (which is actually VERY VERY cheap in comparison) from the large providers, who in turn also pay for peering by the way, regardless of the metrics used to pay for the peering (in / out traffic etc).
The ACTUAL issue is the cost to ISP's of the long haul across the fibre from here to the UK / US (depending on your landing point)- the margin the Telkom is extoring from the SA ISP industry for dedicated long haul, which THEY MUST BUY in order to give THEIR clients QoS (something Telkom KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!)AND the fact that if I want a dedicated circuit from here to Telehouse in the UK I HAVE TO BUY IT FROM TELKOM - I cannot get a competative quote from the likes of AT&T!
The issue is a little more complicated than what you insinuate in your post....
ItalicBold
Active Member
Can anyone using their default 56k service inform us of how usable the line is when capped?
savage
Expert Member
Tracing route to alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 140 ms 150 ms 130 ms pptp-gw05.wc-core.megalan.co.za [x.x.x.x]
2 157 ms 159 ms 159 ms wblv-er-1-fe-0-0-0-7.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.4.12.241]
3 321 ms 315 ms 327 ms london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co. 196.43.9.50]
4 318 ms 318 ms 319 ms ldn-tci-col1-gig-2-7.col.uk.telia.net [213.15541.153]
5 309 ms 311 ms 319 ms ldn-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
6 324 ms 327 ms 327 ms prs-bb1-pos1-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.158]
7 324 ms 335 ms 319 ms ffm-bb1-pos2-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.190]
8 317 ms 335 ms 319 ms ffm-b2-pos2-1.telia.net [213.248.64.174]
9 324 ms 319 ms 327 ms ffm-k88-i1-geth1-1.telia.net [213.248.68.34]
10 436 ms 415 ms 415 ms Frankfurt1.BelWue.DE [213.248.79.42]
11 428 ms 415 ms 407 ms Stuttgart2.BelWue.DE [129.143.1.25]
12 412 ms 399 ms 415 ms Stuttgart1.BelWue.DE [129.143.1.33]
13 420 ms 415 ms 438 ms Tuebingen1.BelWue.DE [129.143.1.8]
14 428 ms 415 ms 423 ms BelWue-GE.Uni-Tuebingen.DE [129.143.135.22]
15 445 ms 450 ms 421 ms alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.9]
Just a quickie that... It's on a 56k ASYNC VPN Service, that we provide standard to our ADSL subscribers (Taken right now). 64K and up is SYNC based services (similar to ISDN / DigiNET, etc), so the times may be a little bit faster than the 56k. Latency wise, it will be *slightly* slower, due to the overhead in the VPN tunnel with regards to encapsulation and encryption.
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 140 ms 150 ms 130 ms pptp-gw05.wc-core.megalan.co.za [x.x.x.x]
2 157 ms 159 ms 159 ms wblv-er-1-fe-0-0-0-7.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.4.12.241]
3 321 ms 315 ms 327 ms london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co. 196.43.9.50]
4 318 ms 318 ms 319 ms ldn-tci-col1-gig-2-7.col.uk.telia.net [213.15541.153]
5 309 ms 311 ms 319 ms ldn-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
6 324 ms 327 ms 327 ms prs-bb1-pos1-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.158]
7 324 ms 335 ms 319 ms ffm-bb1-pos2-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.190]
8 317 ms 335 ms 319 ms ffm-b2-pos2-1.telia.net [213.248.64.174]
9 324 ms 319 ms 327 ms ffm-k88-i1-geth1-1.telia.net [213.248.68.34]
10 436 ms 415 ms 415 ms Frankfurt1.BelWue.DE [213.248.79.42]
11 428 ms 415 ms 407 ms Stuttgart2.BelWue.DE [129.143.1.25]
12 412 ms 399 ms 415 ms Stuttgart1.BelWue.DE [129.143.1.33]
13 420 ms 415 ms 438 ms Tuebingen1.BelWue.DE [129.143.1.8]
14 428 ms 415 ms 423 ms BelWue-GE.Uni-Tuebingen.DE [129.143.135.22]
15 445 ms 450 ms 421 ms alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.9]
Just a quickie that... It's on a 56k ASYNC VPN Service, that we provide standard to our ADSL subscribers (Taken right now). 64K and up is SYNC based services (similar to ISDN / DigiNET, etc), so the times may be a little bit faster than the 56k. Latency wise, it will be *slightly* slower, due to the overhead in the VPN tunnel with regards to encapsulation and encryption.
Hi savage,
Interesting result, this is what I get from an uncapped ADSL line:
Tracing route to alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.10.200
2 31 ms 32 ms 47 ms tpr-bras-128-01.telkom-ipnet.co.za [165.165.128.1]
3 31 ms 47 ms 31 ms rndf-er-1-atm-12-0-0-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.85]
4 375 ms 562 ms 391 ms london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]
5 563 ms 578 ms 531 ms ldn-tci-col1-gig-2-7.col.uk.telia.net [213.155.141.153]
6 656 ms 547 ms 516 ms ldn-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
7 625 ms 531 ms 547 ms prs-bb1-pos1-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.158]
8 625 ms 532 ms 531 ms ffm-bb1-pos2-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.190]
9 610 ms 546 ms 532 ms ffm-b1-pos3-1.telia.net [213.248.68.10]
10 610 ms 547 ms 531 ms ffm-b1-geth9-1.telia.net [213.248.68.42]
11 578 ms 515 ms 516 ms ffm-k88-i1-geth3-16.telia.net [213.248.68.45]
12 547 ms 516 ms 516 ms Frankfurt1.BelWue.DE [213.248.79.42]
13 562 ms 516 ms 516 ms Stuttgart2.belwue.de [129.143.1.25]
14 594 ms 515 ms 532 ms Stuttgart1.belwue.de [129.143.1.33]
15 625 ms 563 ms 547 ms Tuebingen1.belwue.de [129.143.1.8]
16 641 ms 578 ms 562 ms BelWue-GE.Uni-Tuebingen.DE [129.143.135.22]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.
Your capped service beats my uncaped service and has less hops to boot.
Where do we sign up?
Cheers
Chris
Interesting result, this is what I get from an uncapped ADSL line:
Tracing route to alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.10.200
2 31 ms 32 ms 47 ms tpr-bras-128-01.telkom-ipnet.co.za [165.165.128.1]
3 31 ms 47 ms 31 ms rndf-er-1-atm-12-0-0-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.85]
4 375 ms 562 ms 391 ms london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]
5 563 ms 578 ms 531 ms ldn-tci-col1-gig-2-7.col.uk.telia.net [213.155.141.153]
6 656 ms 547 ms 516 ms ldn-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
7 625 ms 531 ms 547 ms prs-bb1-pos1-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.158]
8 625 ms 532 ms 531 ms ffm-bb1-pos2-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.190]
9 610 ms 546 ms 532 ms ffm-b1-pos3-1.telia.net [213.248.68.10]
10 610 ms 547 ms 531 ms ffm-b1-geth9-1.telia.net [213.248.68.42]
11 578 ms 515 ms 516 ms ffm-k88-i1-geth3-16.telia.net [213.248.68.45]
12 547 ms 516 ms 516 ms Frankfurt1.BelWue.DE [213.248.79.42]
13 562 ms 516 ms 516 ms Stuttgart2.belwue.de [129.143.1.25]
14 594 ms 515 ms 532 ms Stuttgart1.belwue.de [129.143.1.33]
15 625 ms 563 ms 547 ms Tuebingen1.belwue.de [129.143.1.8]
16 641 ms 578 ms 562 ms BelWue-GE.Uni-Tuebingen.DE [129.143.135.22]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.
Your capped service beats my uncaped service and has less hops to boot.
Where do we sign up?
Cheers
Chris
Tracing route to alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.97]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.254
2 15 ms 10 ms 9 ms 10.67.192.1
3 10 ms 14 ms 16 ms cgowave-0-93.cgocable.net [24.226.0.93]
4 14 ms 11 ms 12 ms cgowave-0-205.cgocable.net [24.226.0.205]
5 12 ms 14 ms 10 ms cgowave-hala-core2.cgocable.net [24.226.0.166]
6 12 ms 15 ms 16 ms h66-38-197-241.gtconnect.net [66.38.197.241]
7 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms 216.18.63.25
8 24 ms 23 ms 28 ms POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET [66.59.191.86]
9 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms p4-6-2-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.10.97]
10 26 ms 33 ms 25 ms p16-2-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.70]
11 41 ms 40 ms 43 ms p16-1-1-2.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.123]
12 43 ms 41 ms 42 ms p16-6-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.37]
13 42 ms 42 ms 40 ms p4-0.telia.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.9.86]
14 41 ms 47 ms 41 ms nyk-bb2-pos2-2-0.telia.net [213.248.82.17]
15 131 ms 132 ms 135 ms kbn-bb2-pos2-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.33]
16 162 ms 161 ms 161 ms ffm-bb2-pos0-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.5]
17 162 ms 165 ms 166 ms ffm-b1-pos12-0.telia.net [213.248.68.18]
18 189 ms 151 ms 150 ms ffm-b1-geth9-1.telia.net [213.248.68.42]
19 149 ms 148 ms 148 ms ffm-k88-i1-geth3-16.telia.net [213.248.68.45]
20 151 ms 153 ms 153 ms Frankfurt1.BelWue.DE [213.248.79.42]
21 156 ms 153 ms 154 ms Stuttgart2.belwue.de [129.143.1.25]
22 168 ms 165 ms 168 ms Stuttgart1.belwue.de [129.143.1.33]
23 168 ms 171 ms 168 ms Tuebingen1.belwue.de [129.143.1.8]
24 168 ms 168 ms 168 ms BelWue-GE.Uni-Tuebingen.de [129.143.135.22]
25 175 ms 169 ms 169 ms alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.97]
Trace complete.
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.254
2 15 ms 10 ms 9 ms 10.67.192.1
3 10 ms 14 ms 16 ms cgowave-0-93.cgocable.net [24.226.0.93]
4 14 ms 11 ms 12 ms cgowave-0-205.cgocable.net [24.226.0.205]
5 12 ms 14 ms 10 ms cgowave-hala-core2.cgocable.net [24.226.0.166]
6 12 ms 15 ms 16 ms h66-38-197-241.gtconnect.net [66.38.197.241]
7 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms 216.18.63.25
8 24 ms 23 ms 28 ms POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET [66.59.191.86]
9 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms p4-6-2-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.10.97]
10 26 ms 33 ms 25 ms p16-2-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.70]
11 41 ms 40 ms 43 ms p16-1-1-2.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.123]
12 43 ms 41 ms 42 ms p16-6-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.37]
13 42 ms 42 ms 40 ms p4-0.telia.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.9.86]
14 41 ms 47 ms 41 ms nyk-bb2-pos2-2-0.telia.net [213.248.82.17]
15 131 ms 132 ms 135 ms kbn-bb2-pos2-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.33]
16 162 ms 161 ms 161 ms ffm-bb2-pos0-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.5]
17 162 ms 165 ms 166 ms ffm-b1-pos12-0.telia.net [213.248.68.18]
18 189 ms 151 ms 150 ms ffm-b1-geth9-1.telia.net [213.248.68.42]
19 149 ms 148 ms 148 ms ffm-k88-i1-geth3-16.telia.net [213.248.68.45]
20 151 ms 153 ms 153 ms Frankfurt1.BelWue.DE [213.248.79.42]
21 156 ms 153 ms 154 ms Stuttgart2.belwue.de [129.143.1.25]
22 168 ms 165 ms 168 ms Stuttgart1.belwue.de [129.143.1.33]
23 168 ms 171 ms 168 ms Tuebingen1.belwue.de [129.143.1.8]
24 168 ms 168 ms 168 ms BelWue-GE.Uni-Tuebingen.de [129.143.135.22]
25 175 ms 169 ms 169 ms alpha.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.97]
Trace complete.
jgoosen
Well-Known Member
I am currently using adsl in Pta..
But i have noticed all my data gets route to Cape-town and back. Seems like telkom has enought bandwith to bounce you all over the country...
But i have noticed all my data gets route to Cape-town and back. Seems like telkom has enought bandwith to bounce you all over the country...
mithrandi
Well-Known Member
Is it actually possible to contact MegaLAN by phone? Been trying for a while now, just rings and rings...
mithrandi
mithrandi
They said they'd hopefully ordering at the end of the month ...
however there are no absolute promises yet.
I had lots of difficulty getting through to them, keep trying!
However the lack of phone-answering may be indicative of lack of support in the future...
however there are no absolute promises yet.
I had lots of difficulty getting through to them, keep trying!
However the lack of phone-answering may be indicative of lack of support in the future...
mithrandi
Well-Known Member
I was hoping it was indicative of the millions of people phoning to order their service []
mithrandi
]mithrandi
ok im am seriously confused,
is the a maybe or is it in action
so i pay extra R199 to megalan and when i get capped i dial into them
is that it.. in laymens terms ??
excuse the spelling
if this is right where is there web site, has anyone tried them out and when can i sign up
why dont we just use them from the start ??
is the a maybe or is it in action
so i pay extra R199 to megalan and when i get capped i dial into them
is that it.. in laymens terms ??
excuse the spelling
if this is right where is there web site, has anyone tried them out and when can i sign up
why dont we just use them from the start ??
grubman
Well-Known Member
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ReDeeMer</i>
<br />ok im am seriously confused,
is the a maybe or is it in action
so i pay extra R199 to megalan and when i get capped i dial into them
is that it.. in laymens terms ??
excuse the spelling
if this is right where is there web site, has anyone tried them out and when can i sign up
why dont we just use them from the start ??
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Ok, as I understand it. You need to use megalan as your ADSL ISP which will cost you R299-00 p/m. With that you get the 56k equivalent PPTP service. If you want the 64k or the 128k with static IP then you have to purchase the oppropriate optional extra packages.
PPTP is a protocol used for VPN, so you would make use of your existing ADSL connection and VPN directly into megalan ... they're local so cap does not effect your speed and port prioritization ( I have my doubts about the port prioritization for local tho ) does not feature. For more info on PPTP either google or follow the link
http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
Savage, at this rate you'll have to give it to me for free Any thoughts of using IPSEC for the VPN savage?
<br />ok im am seriously confused,
is the a maybe or is it in action
so i pay extra R199 to megalan and when i get capped i dial into them
is that it.. in laymens terms ??
excuse the spelling
if this is right where is there web site, has anyone tried them out and when can i sign up
why dont we just use them from the start ??
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Ok, as I understand it. You need to use megalan as your ADSL ISP which will cost you R299-00 p/m. With that you get the 56k equivalent PPTP service. If you want the 64k or the 128k with static IP then you have to purchase the oppropriate optional extra packages.
PPTP is a protocol used for VPN, so you would make use of your existing ADSL connection and VPN directly into megalan ... they're local so cap does not effect your speed and port prioritization ( I have my doubts about the port prioritization for local tho ) does not feature. For more info on PPTP either google or follow the link
http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
Savage, at this rate you'll have to give it to me for free
Any thoughts of using IPSEC for the VPN savage?savage
Expert Member
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ReDeeMer</i>
<br />ok im am seriously confused,
is the a maybe or is it in action
so i pay extra R199 to megalan and when i get capped i dial into them
is that it.. in laymens terms ??
excuse the spelling
if this is right where is there web site, has anyone tried them out and when can i sign up
why dont we just use them from the start ??
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Almost right. You have to understand the funamentals however. Your ADSL Line (the actual copper) is simply a link to your local exchange, just as your standard telephone, or your isdn telephone service rented from telkom. It has nothing to do with the internet (just about), and nothing to do with our or any other ISP's services.
To be able to get onto the Internet (and frankly, connect to our vpn servers), you need a ADSL account yes. At this stage, MegaLAN will not "close" the vpn services to MegaLAN's ADSL users only, and therefore you are welcome to use whatever ISP you want currently for your ADSL connectivity to connect to the Internet. The rate the uptakes for the service is going currently.
In practise, it works the same as the high latency Satelite VPN Service. You need a Dialup Account to co-exist with the VPN, for two main reasons. Firstly, you need it to upload data to the Internet because the Satelite is only a downfeed, and not bi-directional. The other crucial part why a dialup or other form of connection is needed, is because you need to be on the Internet, to establish the VPN... And that remains the same in our services as well. You must be online to establish the VPN.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by grubman</i>
Ok, as I understand it. You need to use megalan as your ADSL ISP which will cost you R299-00 p/m. With that you get the 56k equivalent PPTP service. If you want the 64k or the 128k with static IP then you have to purchase the oppropriate optional extra packages.
PPTP is a protocol used for VPN, so you would make use of your existing ADSL connection and VPN directly into megalan ... they're local so cap does not effect your speed and port prioritization ( I have my doubts about the port prioritization for local tho ) does not feature. For more info on PPTP either google or follow the link
http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
Savage, at this rate you'll have to give it to me for free Any thoughts of using IPSEC for the VPN savage?
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Semi almost right. Once again I want to stress, you do not need to use MegaLAN for your ADSL connectivity. Sure, I won't say no if you guys want to use us for the ADSL as well, but users tied into contracts at different ISPs can still make use of the VPN services, just like anyone else.
The VPN connection becomes a virtual dialup networking account, and as such your ADSL is "always-on" and the VPN will be a dial up networking configuration. You establish the VPN connection, you use it, and when you need (or believe) higher speeds can be achieved through your local ADSL without the VPN, you simply disconnect the VPN to use full speeds.
Currently, when the VPN is enabled, you will be capped both nationally and internationally at the speed of the VPN service subscribed to (i.e., 56k Async (Only avaialable for MegaLAN ADSL Account Holders), 64k Sync, 128k Sync, 192k Sync, or 256k Sync). We are working on bettering the service even more, and we *may* be able to offer 512k national access regardless of the speed of the VPN. Please keep in mind, this is currently pending and is not a current feature of the product, but rather a possible upgrade to it at a later date.
We do have a couple of very large projects that we currently are working on, but due to laws and regulations I am not sure whether I can actually disclose it just yet. Therefore, I'd rather play it safe and wait things out before I get the OK from all the parties involved. At the rate things are going now however, I can almost guarantee that Telkom *WILL* see serious comptition within this year, and if not, within the first quater of 2004. Not only from Sentech, but also from ourselves, and a couple of other companies out there in South Africa...
So far, we have had a enourmous uptake for the service, and I do apologise for everyone that was unable to get in contact with us. The easiest and cheapest way is just to send us a email, we *will* respond and provide the best information and answers to your questions. Due to the incredible high uptake for the service, we have already ordered more DigiNET lines from Telkom to increase our bandwidth capacity, and have upgraded the new lines ordered twice already while Telkom was busy processing paperwork and preparing for the installation.
So far, we expect the new lines to be installed at the latest on the 25th (Please don't keep me to that, we all know what Telkom is like). The moment the new lines has been installed, we will email application forms to everyone who wanted to sign up for the service, and we will activate accounts on the system immediately.
Thanks for all the support guys...
<br />ok im am seriously confused,
is the a maybe or is it in action
so i pay extra R199 to megalan and when i get capped i dial into them
is that it.. in laymens terms ??
excuse the spelling
if this is right where is there web site, has anyone tried them out and when can i sign up
why dont we just use them from the start ??
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Almost right. You have to understand the funamentals however. Your ADSL Line (the actual copper) is simply a link to your local exchange, just as your standard telephone, or your isdn telephone service rented from telkom. It has nothing to do with the internet (just about), and nothing to do with our or any other ISP's services.
To be able to get onto the Internet (and frankly, connect to our vpn servers), you need a ADSL account yes. At this stage, MegaLAN will not "close" the vpn services to MegaLAN's ADSL users only, and therefore you are welcome to use whatever ISP you want currently for your ADSL connectivity to connect to the Internet. The rate the uptakes for the service is going currently.
In practise, it works the same as the high latency Satelite VPN Service. You need a Dialup Account to co-exist with the VPN, for two main reasons. Firstly, you need it to upload data to the Internet because the Satelite is only a downfeed, and not bi-directional. The other crucial part why a dialup or other form of connection is needed, is because you need to be on the Internet, to establish the VPN... And that remains the same in our services as well. You must be online to establish the VPN.
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Ok, as I understand it. You need to use megalan as your ADSL ISP which will cost you R299-00 p/m. With that you get the 56k equivalent PPTP service. If you want the 64k or the 128k with static IP then you have to purchase the oppropriate optional extra packages.
PPTP is a protocol used for VPN, so you would make use of your existing ADSL connection and VPN directly into megalan ... they're local so cap does not effect your speed and port prioritization ( I have my doubts about the port prioritization for local tho ) does not feature. For more info on PPTP either google or follow the link
http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
Savage, at this rate you'll have to give it to me for free
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Semi almost right. Once again I want to stress, you do not need to use MegaLAN for your ADSL connectivity. Sure, I won't say no if you guys want to use us for the ADSL as well, but users tied into contracts at different ISPs can still make use of the VPN services, just like anyone else.
The VPN connection becomes a virtual dialup networking account, and as such your ADSL is "always-on" and the VPN will be a dial up networking configuration. You establish the VPN connection, you use it, and when you need (or believe) higher speeds can be achieved through your local ADSL without the VPN, you simply disconnect the VPN to use full speeds.
Currently, when the VPN is enabled, you will be capped both nationally and internationally at the speed of the VPN service subscribed to (i.e., 56k Async (Only avaialable for MegaLAN ADSL Account Holders), 64k Sync, 128k Sync, 192k Sync, or 256k Sync). We are working on bettering the service even more, and we *may* be able to offer 512k national access regardless of the speed of the VPN. Please keep in mind, this is currently pending and is not a current feature of the product, but rather a possible upgrade to it at a later date.
We do have a couple of very large projects that we currently are working on, but due to laws and regulations I am not sure whether I can actually disclose it just yet. Therefore, I'd rather play it safe and wait things out before I get the OK from all the parties involved. At the rate things are going now however, I can almost guarantee that Telkom *WILL* see serious comptition within this year, and if not, within the first quater of 2004. Not only from Sentech, but also from ourselves, and a couple of other companies out there in South Africa...
So far, we have had a enourmous uptake for the service, and I do apologise for everyone that was unable to get in contact with us. The easiest and cheapest way is just to send us a email, we *will* respond and provide the best information and answers to your questions. Due to the incredible high uptake for the service, we have already ordered more DigiNET lines from Telkom to increase our bandwidth capacity, and have upgraded the new lines ordered twice already while Telkom was busy processing paperwork and preparing for the installation.
So far, we expect the new lines to be installed at the latest on the 25th (Please don't keep me to that, we all know what Telkom is like). The moment the new lines has been installed, we will email application forms to everyone who wanted to sign up for the service, and we will activate accounts on the system immediately.
Thanks for all the support guys...
desraid
Expert Member
is 64K PPTP good for online gaming?
or is it just good for surfing..
or is it just good for surfing..
bullstein
Well-Known Member
I've used 64 k isdn for gaming and its fine. I play Red Alert 2 on international servers. 64k pptp should be no problem.
It might depend on the conection required for the game you want to play. Different games require different ram speed and all that. But you would know that.
O yes, another thing. 64k isdn is faster than 128k isdn because of the lag (2 dialups). But with pptp it should be better 128k. Too expensive for me though.
It might depend on the conection required for the game you want to play. Different games require different ram speed and all that. But you would know that.
O yes, another thing. 64k isdn is faster than 128k isdn because of the lag (2 dialups). But with pptp it should be better 128k. Too expensive for me though.
ASS_SAZiN
New Member
ok my head is spining.
With the 64/128k thing that megalan is providing do i only pay my normal adsl (connection + isp) and the 199 (or what ever) for the nocap 64k connection?
Another thing this is going to be my first month of adsl. When i get to my cap do i pay like a fine or some crap or am i just put on the slow stream. and how slow is your connection when you are on the other stream thing or is international. trafic totaly blocked?
tanx.
[?]
+_SA_LAGGS_PERIOD!+
With the 64/128k thing that megalan is providing do i only pay my normal adsl (connection + isp) and the 199 (or what ever) for the nocap 64k connection?
Another thing this is going to be my first month of adsl. When i get to my cap do i pay like a fine or some crap or am i just put on the slow stream. and how slow is your connection when you are on the other stream thing or is international. trafic totaly blocked?
tanx.
[?]
+_SA_LAGGS_PERIOD!+
Well, with Telkom as ISP for example when u hit the cap there is basically no more international browsing for you
What I wnat to know bout MegaLan is this: Do you share that 56k connection (after cap) among users, and how many? Just want it cleared up, I'll be going for the 128k myself.
What I wnat to know bout MegaLan is this: Do you share that 56k connection (after cap) among users, and how many? Just want it cleared up, I'll be going for the 128k myself.