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Wots the latency on the 128k.. Im interested in getting this if gaming is playable?
 
To be completely honest. WISPS are viewed in bad light in this forum for a very good reason. they suck. with exception to WBS and Sentech the smaller ones have a very big problem. namely the 2.4 ghz range. Anybody can go to telkom, miro, uniderm or even incredible connection for that matter and pick up a wifi enabled device. then the problem arises. if you next door neighbour decides to use channel 7 and the WISPS highsite happens to be on the same one, well then the strongest channel will win. and doing a site survey from my house, there are 4 SSIDs on each channel. so its seems that its a case of first come first served. then there is the whole broadcasting beyond your own boundry issue and the expensive setup issue. followed by the super high contention ratio and sharing bandwidth with others and last but not least fly by nights and non existant technical support and intermitted unknown network problems leads me to a conclusion that i'm so lucky to have DSL.
 
Thankfully.. I'm in Ireland

Far far away from Clint Armstrong and his amped omni's.
Although, I might still be able to pick up that new network of his that he's been rolling out in Cape Town...

Stay away from WISP's. Especially ones that claim they're legal because they have a VANS license.

The only Legal Wireless ISP's around are iBurst and Sentech.
 
Ouch.. u guys are nailling this guy!!!

But i agree: No technical support, Specrum flooding, etc from previous WISP!

Soz Clint... but we've experienced many wisps on this forum and they all end up letting us down ( SAwireless, exclusive etc..)

Give us something that will shed new light....
 
THx Clint
mountains moved, hills in LOS ... this post coming to you courtesy of my 64K 24-7Online link.
will start a new thread once i take this baby for a drive ... don't worry guys i have a 'dummy' just in case it cries ... ;)
60K download and between 25 and 30K Upload
 
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My hat off to the WISP's that have been in operation for the last 3/4 years and are still appreciated by their clients.
 
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I do agree with 1 point.. Daffy, please cool off a bit :D but I am not a happy wifi customer. I got screwed TWICE by wifi operators... I gave them the benifit of the doubt and all I got was my o-ring reamed solidly. I have stood back siletly and watched the ISM band get totally stuffed up by money grabbing dik-wads that will sell their mother for a buck! do I take my hat off to them? NO .. admiration? NO
As for challenging ICASA, maybe their escapades have weakened ICASA .. who knows, maybe thats what the Head cheese was sleeping at his desk, I dont have an answer to that.

But the lack of regulation in the ISM band and the WISP fly-by-night is stuffing up the repution and credibility of a self-regulated Wireless industry.

Richard


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First a big Fud U to the wannabe WISP's that created this dillemma. The "buy a web site from template monster and make preposterous claims" then proceed to alter their business model 3 months into conception.

The second FU is to you personally Daffy, one of the biggest inspirations to wireless in SA. Your current position is directly due to the experience you received from Megawan and Uniterm, both of which operated "above the law". SA needs to have the little people who challenge current legislation, and are willing to take a chance, stake their very livelyhood on operating in direct opposition to Telkom and ICASA with their antiquated screwed up perception of what is happening in the world.

Daffy go sign up for your 2meg 10 pound unlimited account, and be thankful for the liberal people who made this facility available to you.

The next person who comes to the WIFI and WISP section of myadsl forum and slags the very people who made this possible, are going to get seriously flamed by ME!

Yes that is a challenge... Please make my day!!

My hat off to the WISP's that have been in operation for the last 3/4 years and are still appreciated by their clients.
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RichardP said:
I do agree with 1 point.. Daffy, please cool off a bit :D but I am not a happy wifi customer. I got screwed TWICE by wifi operators... I gave them the benifit of the doubt and all I got was my o-ring reamed solidly. I have stood back siletly and watched the ISM band get totally stuffed up by money grabbing dik-wads that will sell their mother for a buck! do I take my hat off to them? NO .. admiration? NO
As for challenging ICASA, maybe their escapades have weakened ICASA .. who knows, maybe thats what the Head cheese was sleeping at his desk, I dont have an answer to that.

But the lack of regulation in the ISM band and the WISP fly-by-night is stuffing up the repution and credibility of a self-regulated Wireless industry.

Richard
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Richard I agree with most of that...just a couple of points

- there is currently no industry self-regulation...there is a degree of individual self-regulation by certain *ethical* operators; this is indeed very harmful to the industry but I am hopeful that we will see solid change with the coming of the new Act
- ICASA have been sitting on a proposal for industry self-regulation for more than 4 months
- it is a myth, imho, that ICASA spent much energy on WISPS at all...from having worked in the industry it is my take that ICASA is 99% preoccupied with government and the larger licencees and USALs and has only really engaged with WISPs when telkom has asked it to

there are WISPs who have a track record and who are, as far as i can see, providing a good service to clients while actively addressing socio-economic issues

on the other side i think a web site like WISPsh1tlist.co.za is long overdue
 
Changed my post because it was negative. Apologies for mouthing off.

Dominic can you get a sticky topic on this forum where you can add the names of reputable WISP's instead of creating a **** list?

I know you are already trying to advance a lot in this sector, perhaps this could work in conjunction. Let them submit certain criteria about their business and see if they qualify to be on the "A list" This could help prevent people like Richard getting shafted by the wannabes. Even a seperate site advertising decent wireless providers?

It would have to be someone like you who is recognised yet impartial.
 
All 24-7Online bandwith runs over fibre. On the 1st of July we will be linking our Cape Town offices directly into a 100mb fibre backbone to offer faster services and to accomodate the release of our VOIP service. http://www.24-7voip.co.za. Have not tried and tested gaming however have spoken to a few clients that seem to be gaming fine and with the upgrade this should only improve.
 
I would like to believe that our 6 years experience in the wireless arena gives us the advantage to have learnt from an ever changing technology. We have developed our own locally designed control systems and do believe we have a product that stands out above the rest. But the proof is in what our clients have to say.
 
We believe that ICASA will change its policies sooner than later and join the rest of the world. We have a international soccer event comming up in 2010 and when South Africa won the bid it was clearly stated that the communications sector needs to be of a world class standard. The ISM bands will play a major role in this as most devices are already ISM enabled and most overseas suppliers manufacture products to this standard.
 
It might help if you actually quote the bits you are answering, otherwise I cant help but think people will question your sanity in talking to yourself.

Use it, dont use it .....
 
daffy said:
Thankfully.. I'm in Ireland

Far far away from Clint Armstrong and his amped omni's.
Although, I might still be able to pick up that new network of his that he's been rolling out in Cape Town...

Stay away from WISP's. Especially ones that claim they're legal because they have a VANS license.

The only Legal Wireless ISP's around are iBurst and Sentech.
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Daffy i would appreciate it if you stop attacking me personally but if you feel the need to continue then i guess its your prorogative. As to amping i must reitirate we have absolutely no amps on our network and if you could pick up my network in Ireland i would book in down to a job well done by my company.

Enjoy Ireland and hope you stay a while.
 
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