3D on Samsung LED TV

Am seriously thinking about switching to a nice 3D capable HD tv for movies and gaming but what I'd like to know is if any of you that already have these have noticed significant eye strain or even possible headaches caused by these TV's? Apparently some people are more susceptible than others and that making sure your TV's settings are properly optimized also helps, but still would like to hear from folks with first hand experience.
 
Charrgrill said:
Am seriously thinking about switching to a nice 3D capable HD tv for movies and gaming but what I'd like to know is if any of you that already have these have noticed significant eye strain or even possible headaches caused by these TV's? Apparently some people are more susceptible than others and that making sure your TV's settings are properly optimized also helps, but still would like to hear from folks with first hand experience.
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from watching a few downloaded clips for about half an hour yesterday i felt no eye strain if that helps.
Remember I have the set for few days now so i am still a beginner when it comes to 3D.

Lastnight I also watched a bit of the Chelsea game on ss3 on 3D mode.
I really enjoyed watching Ramires score the second goal even though 2D -> 3D doesn't have that pop out effect!

Guys, I'm stuck with a SD DSTV decoder, if I buy a HD-PVR will SD picture quality be improved?
 
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Read this thread, seems there is an issue on D6X00 TV's. Yours is bigger, and not the same model...but who knows, maybe this relates?

http://www.ps3za.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=90937

Good Day

As discussed in my previous email, I purchased a 40” D6000 TV a few months back from you guys only to discover two weeks ago that the TV is FALSELY marketed by Samsung as a 3D Full HD TV. Please see the links below for the write up too this as well as the press release from Samsung Germany whom offered their customers a refund option or an upgrade to another TV. This defect is across the entire D6x00 range and it is a MAJOR concern to me.

Full info and test pictures on defect: http://wiki.samygo.tv/index.php5/D6x00_TVs_FULL_HD_3D_Defect
Samsung Germany Statement: http://www.cine4home.de/tests/TVs/Samsung_D6500/Statement_Samsung.htm (You will need to translate on google translate from German to English)

I had run the tests on my screen and it sadly failed displaying the FULL HD 3D Image correctly (Image was blurry compared to 2D Full HD and that was proof that it was up scaled from a lower resolution). In RSA we are protected against this by the CPA which allows to be returned within 6 months if they do not meet their promises as this falls under False Advertising. I have opened a query with Samsung last week Monday but they keep escalating the issue and never provide feedback.

I did receive a response today that there is no fault with the TV and it is in fact FULL HD 3D even despite Samsung Germany stating that it is not. This is deeply upsetting to me as they would not allow me to return my defective unit (Still within the 6 months as per the CPA) or even swop it for another range with FULL HD 3D.

I would greatly appreciate your assistance on this as it is a GRAND SCALE of false marketing
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Charrgrill said:
Am seriously thinking about switching to a nice 3D capable HD tv for movies and gaming but what I'd like to know is if any of you that already have these have noticed significant eye strain or even possible headaches caused by these TV's? Apparently some people are more susceptible than others and that making sure your TV's settings are properly optimized also helps, but still would like to hear from folks with first hand experience.
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I've had a gaming session of 2 hrs and watched random clips. So far no strain or headaches. Assuming you're talking about PC gaming, the joy of the software is that you can customise the focus, normally until there is absolutely no "ghosting".

zoopy3 said:
from watching a few downloaded clips for about half an hour yesterday i felt no eye strain if that helps.
Remember I have the set for few days now so i am still a beginner when it comes to 3D.

Lastnight I also watched a bit of the Chelsea game on ss3 on 3D mode.
I really enjoyed watching Ramires score the second goal even though 2D -> 3D doesn't have that pop out effect!

Guys, I'm stuck with a SD DSTV decoder, if I buy a HD-PVR will SD picture quality be improved?
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The only 3D blu-ray I own is Thor, as I didn't get to see it in 3D at the cinema, but even that is decent viewing!
Gaming is what really made me appreciate the popout effect though.

Unfortunately you will only get a proper HD signal on the HD channels. You may notice a slight improvement on the SD channels, but it won't be anything huge.
 
PhreeMe said:
I've had a gaming session of 2 hrs and watched random clips. So far no strain or headaches. Assuming you're talking about PC gaming, the joy of the software is that you can customise the focus, normally until there is absolutely no "ghosting".



The only 3D blu-ray I own is Thor, as I didn't get to see it in 3D at the cinema, but even that is decent viewing!
Gaming is what really made me appreciate the popout effect though.

Unfortunately you will only get a proper HD signal on the HD channels. You may notice a slight improvement on the SD channels, but it won't be anything huge.
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cool, i'll look at getting a BD player rather than the HD-PVR then.
Btw, I also played games on it with my xbox 360. All looks good so far. i'm playing Fifa 12, Gears of War 2, Forza 3 at the moment.
 
CrazyFig said:
Read this thread, seems there is an issue on D6X00 TV's. Yours is bigger, and not the same model...but who knows, maybe this relates?
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Interesting, will try their demo files on my locally built 46D6000 upgraded to the latest 1017.2 firmware.

Rented Green Lantern 3D this weekend and wasnt apparent it was displaying in half vertical resolution? Will have to check.
 
CrazyFig said:
Read this thread, seems there is an issue on D6X00 TV's. Yours is bigger, and not the same model...but who knows, maybe this relates?

http://www.ps3za.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=90937
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Is there any noticeable difference when watching a movie in 3D if this is the case with my 46D6000? I have yet to see the POP out effect, although I see depth pretty good (can this be the Samsung Starter kit causing this). What movies can I watch on my 3D BD player that has this "popout" effect?
I only have Shrek 1-4 that came packaged with the Starter kit :)
 
Roman4604 said:
Interesting, will try their demo files on my locally built 46D6000 upgraded to the latest 1017.2 firmware.

Rented Green Lantern 3D this weekend and wasnt apparent it was displaying in half vertical resolution? Will have to check.
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let us know how it goes... I will also test tonight if I have a chance. :wtf:
 
musha said:
Is there any noticeable difference when watching a movie in 3D if this is the case with my 46D6000? I have yet to see the POP out effect, although I see depth pretty good
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Yes in most movies it should be blatantly obvious. Maybe something not setup correctly?

Does your 3D Bluray player automatically switch the TV to 3D mode (3D logo flashed on in bottom left of screen) when 3D content is displayed? And kind of obvious, are the glasses paired & operating properly?
 
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Yep, my 46D6000 also displays 3D at half vertical res, 1920x540 per eye upscaled to 1920x1080p. Its pretty apparent on the 1080p .mpo file from the above site, which displays a 2D test pattern, but switches the TV into 3D mode.

PostmanPot said:
I will be very sad if your super eyes failed to notice!
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My expectations were already set lower, 3D PQ should be bit lower than 2D taking into account the slight flickering from active shutter glasses, and crosstalk ghosting from entry level 3D (as provided by the only 100Hz D6000). Thing is when watching a Bluray 3D movie you're so distracted/mesmerised by the 3D effects that you don't quite notice the fidelity/sharpness loss. The overall impact, at least first few times, is still great.

But yes, a poor showing from Samsung. I bought the D6000 knowing full well its 3D performance was bottom end (just a gimmick to play around with for me), but if I had bought say a D6600 specifically intent on watching/playing a lot of 3D, I'd be pretty peeved.
 
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Roman4604 said:
Yes in most movies it should be blatantly obvious. Maybe something not setup correctly?

Does your 3D Bluray player automatically switch the TV to 3D mode (3D logo flashed on in bottom left of screen) when 3D content is displayed? And kind of obvious, are the glasses paired & operating properly?
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Yea, the BD player automatically switches to 3D when playing a 3D movie. Yea, glasses is paired correctly and operation fine! :)
Perhaps it's only the Shrek movie.
Will see if I can get Thor or any Green Lantern in 3D to test.
 
zoopy3 said:
and when i switch the tv to 3D mode there is no drop in picture quality that I can see on 3D. :confused:
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Download http://www.worldserve.de/projects/samsung/HD-Testbilder.zip and put the Testbild-FullHD-2D.jpg and Testbild-FullHD-3D.mpo files on a flashdrive. Then plug into TV and go to media player filpping back & forth between the two (dont need to wear glasses).

Specifically check the very small writing on either side of the "1920 x 1080 Pixel" text (centre up). Also the large "Full HD 1080p" lower down, see how the curved edges are all stepped in the .mpo file (which switches the TV into 3D automatically).
 
Roman4604 said:
Download http://www.worldserve.de/projects/samsung/HD-Testbilder.zip and put the Testbild-FullHD-2D.jpg and Testbild-FullHD-3D.mpo files on a flashdrive. Then plug into TV and go to media player filpping back & forth between the two (dont need to wear glasses).

Specifically check the very small writing on either side of the "1920 x 1080 Pixel" text (centre up). Also the large "Full HD 1080p" lower down, see how the curved edges are all stepped in the .mpo file (which switches the TV into 3D automatically).
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crap thats how mine is. :wtf: I did follow those steps with the .mpo file and it displays as you discribed.
I'm not going to break my head over it anyway because I don't really need 3D most of the time and as explained by Samsung:
according to Samsung, human perception of two images with 540 lines is effectively equivalent to Full HD.
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http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-television/investigation-active-3d-tvs-full-hd-3d-guaranteed-a1467.html
 
I'm going to be purchasing the D6600 very soon but I am a little worried based on the above article! I must say that I won't be using the 3D very often, if at all but i'm a little worried about the 2D sharpness now although there is no mention of this in the article.

I had a look at Dionwired's brochure and I see they list the D6600 as '3D FHD LED TV' and '3D Full high definition'?
 
JimboBob said:
but i'm a little worried about the 2D sharpness now although there is no mention of this in the article.
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Dont worry, the half-res debacle/scandal is only limited to 3D mode.

2D is unaffected, in my opinion the D6X00s are still class leading in 2D due to the clarity/sharpness of their UltraClear panels.
 
Roman4604 said:
Download http://www.worldserve.de/projects/samsung/HD-Testbilder.zip and put the Testbild-FullHD-2D.jpg and Testbild-FullHD-3D.mpo files on a flashdrive. Then plug into TV and go to media player filpping back & forth between the two (dont need to wear glasses).

Specifically check the very small writing on either side of the "1920 x 1080 Pixel" text (centre up). Also the large "Full HD 1080p" lower down, see how the curved edges are all stepped in the .mpo file (which switches the TV into 3D automatically).
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I tried again lastnight and I can see the lines clearly and curved lines are not stepped in the .mpo file. I believe mine is outputting full HD 3D. I'm on firmware 001017 if that helps.
 
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