8Mbps ADSL 'needs a bit more work'

friedpiggy said:
Now available.

Up to 8Mbps* broadband. The fastest broadband ever. Connect at these lightning fast speeds for only R9000 a month.**

* 8Mbps is the maximum speed possible, realistically this means you would connect at 768Kbps.
**bandwidth, analogue line rental, common sense and useablity not included in this price
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If you DL a episode of lost or heroes at that full speed it should take you more or less 10 mins max. Wow !! Caps are going to be killed in a day
 
We are still struggling to stay connected at even 4 mbps. Dunno how they are going to offer this to the majority of customers who are having persistent sync problems.
 
people are having enough trouble trying to connect with 4mb, imagine the problems that 8mb going to couse:eek:
 
This is f*ing great news. I was worried that Telkom would start neglecting its ADSL users with this do 3G crap. Can't wait. I feel sorry for the guys having problems with their 4meg service. I sure am glad I'm not one of them. :D
 
Amazing that Telkom have not yet figured out that a lack of upgrades and maintenance might be the reason their backhaul capacity is so shocking. But oh wait, I forgot, thats obviously because the network was built by racists in the days of apartheid and they made it so the majority wouldnt be able to figure out how to make it run properly.
 
When telkom admits to backhaul problems then you know how rubbish the copper network is. I say people who are able to synch at 8mbit should be allowed to do so but a 10x increase in cap would be nice to go along with it
 
friedpiggy said:
Amazing that Telkom have not yet figured out that a lack of upgrades and maintenance might be the reason their backhaul capacity is so shocking. But oh wait, I forgot, thats obviously because the network was built by racists in the days of apartheid and they made it so the majority wouldnt be able to figure out how to make it run properly.
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What are you on about?
 
[OUPA]MrNutz;2663463 said:
Anything more than 1.8-2.0km from the exchange - this is going to cause nightmares

The current situation of copper infrastructure & maintenance is of such low standard/priority to Telkom that without deploying UMCs all over the show this is going to be a huge mess. (99% sync problems) :(
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5km cutoff, ur all good.
 
What I am on about is that they are now griping about backhaul problems.

They dont seem to recall that those problems could have been avoided if they had done proper maintenance and had regularly scheduled upgrades to existing equipment. I honestly would not be surprised if the majority of the equipment was still the original stuff from when the network was first set up.

I am also fairly certain that just like the majority of quasi government organisations out there they are going to try tag this as a fault of the network they inherited. I mean its the South African way after all. "We cannot be to blame because it was all done in the apartheid years"

Should that not happen I will happily apologise to Telkom but Im pretty sure it will.
 
saffakanera said:
5km cutoff, ur all good.
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Bollocks. I'm well within the 5km range from my exchange (physical length of copper cable according to Telkom engineers) and I can't synch at higher than 1mb. Telkom refuses to do anything about this and claims that if they replaced everyone's lines who couldn't connect at higher speeds, it's all they'd be doing and that I must just live with it.
They also only guarantee 1mb, the 4mb is a bonus IF you can get it. If it doesn't synch at higher than 1mb, then sorry for you.
 
Garth Massey said:
they should up-grade every one that is on the 384 to 512 and 512 to 1024 and then have the other the other option of the 8 mb adsl line ....
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I disagree with this. If the 4mb and 8mb options were seperate and had different costs associated with them, then you could fight and have a vague chance of winning if/when it doesn't work.
With Telkom's current setup, they sell you a 1mb line, and if it works at 4mb good for you, if not, well, it IS only a 1mb line, so you have no recourse in getting them to fix it so you can connect at 4mb.
 
friedpiggy said:
What I am on about is that they are now griping about backhaul problems.

They dont seem to recall that those problems could have been avoided if they had done proper maintenance and had regularly scheduled upgrades to existing equipment. I honestly would not be surprised if the majority of the equipment was still the original stuff from when the network was first set up.

I am also fairly certain that just like the majority of quasi government organisations out there they are going to try tag this as a fault of the network they inherited. I mean its the South African way after all. "We cannot be to blame because it was all done in the apartheid years"

Should that not happen I will happily apologise to Telkom but Im pretty sure it will.
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Telkom are busy with upgrades, which is nice. They could, however, have been much further along had they done this a few years ago. They ran xDSL trails in 2000 already. Could do 8Mb in the labs with ADSL, and 4Mb up/down on SDSL. They opted however to do nothing a that stage. They could have already predicted what size of backbone would be required to carry that amount of data. They waited until it had to be done, and then only did the minimum. They could have done it right the first time, in order to have to do only minor updates now to get to ADSL2+.

Telkom didn't need to upgrade anything, or supply us anything faster than dial-up, because government allowed them to do it. The market should have been opened completely before Neotel even came along, and the local loop should have been declared a state/municipal asset. IMHO, obviously.
 
Even if 8 Meg was available, I would not pay a cent more for it than 4 Meg. What possible benefit is there to justify the extra cost? Only once caps are vastly increased will there be any point in downloading something in 7 minutes instead of 15.
 
Screw the 8mb lines, how about some decent stable infrastructure for a start, and raise the rediculous caps. 3Gb's is such a rediculous limitation, it's almost criminal..

Imagine when we get Multichoice's IPTV and VOD services with your 8Mb line and only 3Gb usage.
 
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