A million lost, and counting

Rouxenator : Yes, let me just trust you when I have tried the systems on a wireless connection and they constantly went out of sync when the latency spiked above 70ms for more than 5 or 10 seconds....

Dude, no offence, but you need to get off your high horse and understand that some people do NEED the service the Telscum offer and the wireless offerings do not make the grade in terms of what they need.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Rouxenator : Yes, let me just trust you when I have tried the systems on a wireless connection and they constantly went out of sync when the latency spiked above 70ms for more than 5 or 10 seconds....

Dude, no offence, but you need to get off your high horse and understand that some people do NEED the service the Telscum offer and the wireless offerings do not make the grade in terms of what they need.
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one
 
Would you care to define what the needs of the many are that outweigh the needs of the few or the one in this case?
 
Low & stable latency benefits everyone - even if everyone doesn't think so.

IMO low & stable latency is also an indication of low contention, i.e. that enough bandwidth is available for all concurrent users of a network.
 
I fully agree ic, plus it directly benefits me in a certain system i'm running that goes all wonky when latency goes too high (which it does on a regular basis on every wireless connection I've tried)...

There is also the small issue of course, that at some point, all data in this country travels on Telkoms ATM network (or at least a very very large percentage of the data), so why not just go directly into that network instead of having another network to get through first?
 
ToxicBunny said:
There is also the small issue of course, that at some point, all data in this country travels on Telkoms ATM network (or at least a very very large percentage of the data), so why not just go directly into that network instead of having another network to get through first?
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I don't disagree, it's one of my major complaints with the licensing of Neotel which was supposed to be Telkodemonopolies' first fixed line competitor, i.e. the SNO or 2nd fixed line network operator when one considers that SA already had several wireless competitors at the time.

Hopefully we will start to see some innovative VANs offering niche FTTC and FTTH services for those able to justify & afford such services.

Dialup is obviously on its deathbed but taking a long time to peg off, but IMO ADSL faces the same danger in SA whilst Telkodemonopolies is more interested in HSPA and Neotel has stated that it refuses to compete where copper is concerned.

I wish the VANs the best of luck in providing services that people really do want, hopefully some of us will be able to afford the pricetags attached to FTTC and FTTH.
 
supersunbird said:
Do you play First Person Shooter games like Battlefield or Counter Strike: Source at all?
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No, luckily I am not a [-]lactose[/-] latency intolerant toddler anymore :cool: But you go ahead and play your Ninja Stike Turtle Fieldbattle or whatever :p Remember, mommy, daddy and telkom loves you ;)
 
So let me get this straight Rouxenator.. we must curtail what we use our internet connection for simply because you deem anyone who uses a Telkom connection to be evil..

and just btw, the people who are worried about latency are usually the more technically savvy people, and there is a reason wired connections FAR outweigh wireless connections on the rest of this planet.
 
Ok, simple question then for you Rouxenator...

IF Wireless connections are the way forward, why are companies like VC, MTN, Neotel putting masses of Fibreoptics in the ground?

And why do ISPs and major Telecoms companies spend LARGE amounts of money upgrading their networks by installing Fibre optics etc?
 
Fiber optics are for core network operations - nothing can compare with fiber.
I am talking last mile sonny, where wireless is king and copper is retroactiveretarded.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Ok, simple question then for you Rouxenator...

IF Wireless connections are the way forward, why are companies like VC, MTN, Neotel putting masses of Fibreoptics in the ground?

And why do ISPs and major Telecoms companies spend LARGE amounts of money upgrading their networks by installing Fibre optics etc?
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Please don't derail the topic with your obsessiveness. Take the opportunity to create a different topic and present your views there. This topic is about something bigger than your post count.
 
This is not actually about my obsessiveness, but rather Rouxenators obsession with bashing anyone who chooses to use ADSL because he feels Wireless is better... and I'm just trying to figure out why he thinks that way.
 
@Rouxenator, leave ToxicBunny alone, if you want to argue about latency, then I invite you to debunk my earlier post about low & stable latency.

There are many legitimate business use cases for a broadband connection with low & stable latency that have absolutely nothing to do with online gaming, for example VoIP and off-site monitoring and many other applications where low & stable latency is critical.
 
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