Accessing the UTD [WARNING: Potentially harmful to dumb iBurst modems]

[geniosity]

Hi,

is there anyway i could try out the "alpha" version of iConnect?

thanks.

 

[DFantom]

is there anyway i could try out the "alpha" version of iConnect?

PM crash

 

[Gatecrasher]

GRES, DFANTOM, SLIM et al:

What is all the secrecy for? If you have info that will help others, post it! If there are dangers, state them. Anyone trying it, takes that risk on themselves. Just don't treat people like children. It's pathetic.

I would love to see which base station I'm on, which base stations are in range, and my signal strength via ethernet. But I'm not sending anyone any stupid PM's.

Post the information here for all to read. Thank You.

 

[slimothy]

did you ever think of the implications of releasing info for stuff you dont have a licence for and had to probably reverse engineer to get?

Im definatly not saying anything, I didn't do the leg work on this one so you'll have to PM

 

[jmn]

Might be an idea to put it in the FAQ for easy reference.

 

[LandyMan]

did you ever think of the implications of releasing info for stuff you dont have a licence for and had to probably reverse engineer to get?

Reading this, the word Paycheck jumps right at me

 

[Gatecrasher]

Are we getting system info out of our fully paid-for modems? Or are we going into industrial espionage and technology theft?

Damn it, I just want to know what flipping base station I'm on.

So PM me already. Thanks.

 

[Roman4604]

Gatecrasher I'm starting to think down your line. Most of us have OSs, routers, servers and other peices of kit that can be f****d up if you do the wrong thing ... its always operator beware.

What elevates the iBurst UTD to some type of "super technology" that can only be handled by licensed, trained professionals? What next should we be PMing each other Win registry settings in case Bill gets offended?

I say put the stuff up for everyone (clever enough to know about myADSL) to see ... thats what these forums are for.

 

[regardtv]

Actually the information on the modem is public access data....

it's the exact same thing as you typing in a url and getting a web page displayed....

While there may be copyrights attached to the content it's access is public... Also, NO reverse engineering was required for this

 

[DFantom]

If you have info that will help others, post it!

The information on manually accessing the UTD is posted on these forums, infact in this thread.

The reason the app is not being distributed as yet is that it is still being developed. All the people working on it does have a jobs so it has to be juggled around that.

Patience young padawan...all good things come to those who wait. Your wait will not be long, or I will personally beat all the developers for you as well...k?

 

[jmn]

Uplink failure

Uplink failure under load, eg Telkom speed test:
Bscc 2 Cost -70 Distance 4 Load 1
Bscc 1 Cost -82 Distance 22 Load 1
Uplink Failed
Bscc 2 Cost -73 Distance 46 Load 1
Bscc 1 Cost -82 Distance 63 Load 1
rfScan Aligned to New Bscc 2
rfScan is Uplaligned
Bscc 2 Cost -69 Distance 4 Load 1
Bscc 1 Cost -80 Distance 21 Load 1
Bscc 2 Cost -69 Distance 4 Load 1

I often get the uplink failures under load. When it happens the speed on the test is typically < 400 kbps, else > 600 kbps (hovers around 800 now)

 

[GRES]

you are very unlucky person! BOTH towers is siht! And your tower is Northcliff.
Don't do test and scan at the same time as during the scan your link is dead. From towers signals i can quess that you are between Northcliff and Town. Check your towers signals without connection. If you can see tower14, 6 or 20 i can help you.

 

[Gatecrasher]

Okay. No one pm'ed me. So I googled and found this:

It is possible to telnet into you iBurst UT-D. Its quite simple:
1. Connect UT-D via ethernet cable
2. Set ethernet ip to 192.168.250.* (anything other than 10)
3. open up your favourite telnet app, linux folks can use telnet-bsd and windows folks can use putty.
4. IP: 192.168.250.10 port 1234
5. open up the connection
6. type "rfScan debug 2" exactly like that.
7. you will be presented with the base station # and the signal strength in dB and the distance and load of the BS.
8. once you are done type "rfScan debug 0"
9. close the connection

I've tried this in hyperterminal. But at step 5 I get unable to connect to 192.168.250.10 port 1234. What could I be doing wrong?

 

[GRES]

making so much noise

 

[Gatecrasher]

Gres, I asked for help, not wise-cracks. Until help is forthcoming the noise will just get louder.

Anyway, this thread is 8 pages deep and I only arrived on page 7. So I missed out on all the whispering behind the schoolyard shed.

If anyone can help me, please post here or pm me. Thanks.

 

[GRES]

you quote is OK but ... . If you can't solve this problem - wait for iconnect. This is my best advise.
I have no idea where you get this info. It wasn't openly published for the reason to restrict unskilled peoples to access modem as one can make severe damage with usage of wrong commands. IMHO it was your very bad idea quote this openly.

 

[Gatecrasher]

I have no idea where you get this info.

I just Googled "telnet iburst" and there it was...

It wasn't openly published for the reason to restrict unskilled peoples to access modem as one can make severe damage with usage of wrong commands.

You mean like "format c:" ,turning off your firewall, etc? We all have access to a lot of potentially damaging information. Most people know their limitations, though, and those that don't deserve what comes to them. Who are you to judge who is skilled and who is not?

IMHO it was your very bad idea quote this openly.

It has already been quoted openly. This is the internet! It is naive to think that anything can be kept secret. What else did you expect when you sent all those pm's?

 

[slimothy]

You mean like "format c:" ,turning off your firewall, etc? We all have access to a lot of potentially damaging information. Most people know their limitations, though, and those that don't deserve what comes to them. Who are you to judge who is skilled and who is not?

turning off a firewall and format c dont damage hardware and he's not judging anything he PMd anyone who wanated to know it.

By the way from what GRES told me oh the phone... he's probably one of the smarter people on the forum

 

[Gatecrasher]

By the way from what GRES told me oh the phone... he's probably one of the smarter people on the forum

GRES's smartness is not in question. He should be congratulated for discovering this information. Knowing which base station you are on is a major piece of knowledge denied us up till now. Seeing signal strength via ethernet is another huge plus! He should be congratulated for sharing this with others.

I only question how this information has been disseminated. Like only really smart people should be allowed to know this stuff. It's an arrogant and patronising approach.

And anyway, what is the difference in posting it or pm'ing anyone who wants it? It's the same thing. There are no legality or pirating issues here. So post it.

If you have useful information, post it. With a BIG caveat, if necessary. Let forum readers decide whether they want to act on the information or not. Let them assess their own risks. That's what this forum and every other technical forum is all about. Openly sharing knowledge. If readers abuse that knowledge, it's their lookout.

 

[GRES]

IMHO problem with any kind of info - it can be bad for somebody. Try to avoid this. For the most ppl i PM it only after small conversation, to be sure that person know what he is doing. Some of theese persons wanted to be "important man" and published this info even nobody asked them to do so. Simply to open new theme at web-board.

Other peoples obtain this info and can't use it. For these my suggestion is to be patient and wait for the iConnect from Crash.