Adobeflash now on iPhone, iPad

Riiight.

And now many people are going to pay that amount to get flash support for iphone and ipad users? Maybe if the site is designed for Iphone and Ipad.
 
So it's server dependent? That's a bit crappy :(

And that PRICE! Seems like they're intent on killing Flash.
 
Lol, apple with all their wonders still does not support flash?
 
Flash Media Server 4.5 allows publishers to stream Flash content to iOS devices, which means support within the iOS Safari browser is not required. Instead of relying on a device’s processor to render the stream, which often degrades battery life and slows a device down, Adobe’s Flash Media Server 4.5 does all the legwork.
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so this is basically just a thin client?
 
inferno said:
Lol, apple with all their wonders still does not support flash?
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On mobile devices. I have flash on my android phone, and it blows. Sucks the life out of your battery, and a lot of things bring the phone to a crawl.
 
Pixual said:
Flash is evil. The worst thing to ever happen to the internet...
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i don't understand this line of reasoning.
flash allows for compression of video, audio, bitmap and vector graphics, 3d graphics, embedded fonts etc within an extensive api which can be compiled cross-platform and deployed in ria and desktop scenarios.
in the absence of web standards and similar functionality from browsers, it has filled the gap because browser vendors couldn't get their act together.
the plugin comes included in some browsers, and for others it's a small download which ensures a consistency of user experience across the board.
for the developer it offers saving in time and cost because there's very little need for cross-platform hacks.

sorry to be blunt, but if your understanding of flash is banner ads, then you don't understand flash.
i'm not saying that flash is perfect, i'm just saying that flash isn't the worst thing to ever happen to the internet. that would be IE6. :D
 
Flash really broke the barriers which standard HTML presented. I liked the way an entire site/app could be encapsulated within a single file. What is the HTML5 equivalent that everyone has been harping on about?
 
murraybiscuit said:
so this is basically just a thin client?
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This is just the latest version of the Flash Media Server. And it now detects the client OS, and serves h264 mp4 files instead of h264 flv files when it detects IOS, allowing the battery on iPhones and iPads to be preserved. This is only for *video streaming* not flash adverts (thankfully) or flash applications (also thankfully)
 
murraybiscuit said:
i don't understand this line of reasoning.
flash allows for compression of video, audio, bitmap and vector graphics, 3d graphics, embedded fonts etc within an extensive api which can be compiled cross-platform and deployed in ria and desktop scenarios.
in the absence of web standards and similar functionality from browsers, it has filled the gap because browser vendors couldn't get their act together.
the plugin comes included in some browsers, and for others it's a small download which ensures a consistency of user experience across the board.
for the developer it offers saving in time and cost because there's very little need for cross-platform hacks.

sorry to be blunt, but if your understanding of flash is banner ads, then you don't understand flash.
i'm not saying that flash is perfect, i'm just saying that flash isn't the worst thing to ever happen to the internet. that would be IE6. :D
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Flash often breaks the Page Model, and thus causes bad UX. Flash makes my processor usage skyrocket, and my battery life plummet on my laptop. All is easily avoided by not having flash
 
inferno said:
Lol, apple with all their wonders still does not support flash?
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Apple have worked very hard to ensure Flash does not find it way onto iOS, despite Adobe's best efforts. Thus making real world battery life and UX far better for everyone concerned (Except the adobe shareholders)
 
JStrike said:
Apple have worked very hard to ensure Flash does not find it way onto iOS, despite Adobe's best efforts. Thus making real world battery life and UX far better for everyone concerned (Except the adobe shareholders)
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Says the apple fanboi of note on this forum.....they are now "WORKING HARD" to ban the samsung galaxy tab in every country in the world,i dont have much respect left for apple any more after this whole abusing of the patents issue.



How can you patent a gesture or software?
 
icyrus said:
Yeah, imagine how terrible browsing the web is without all those flash ads running...
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Or the other half of the internet.......

Anyways, you going to be see`ing all those ads in html 5 anyways. /wave

Nice thing about the ecosystems I choose... I get choice. I get to choose if I want to see the flash ads or not, I get to choose if I want to play the flash game or watch the flash video if I want to or if I dont want to. Its my choice. Not an Apple COO.
 
falcon786 said:
Says the apple fanboi of note on this forum.....they are now "WORKING HARD" to ban the samsung galaxy tab in every country in the world,i dont have much respect left for apple any more after this whole abusing of the patents issue.



How can you patent a gesture or software?
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If Samsung hadn't deliberately tried to make their phone and OS look exactly like the iPhone there wouldn't be a problem. The Windows mobile phones dont look like exact copies. Just the Samsung. Hell, they even have one with a metal band around it now
 
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ghoti said:
Or the other half of the internet.......

Anyways, you going to be see`ing all those ads in html 5 anyways. /wave

Nice thing about the ecosystems I choose... I get choice. I get to choose if I want to see the flash ads or not, I get to choose if I want to play the flash game or watch the flash video if I want to or if I dont want to. Its my choice. Not an Apple COO.
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Well, the iPhone 4 is the best selling smartphone and the iPhone 3GS is the second biggest selling. Seems people quite like Apple making sensible decisions for them....
 
ghoti said:
Or the other half of the internet.......
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What half of the internet is that?

ghoti said:
Anyways, you going to be see`ing all those ads in html 5 anyways. /wave
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Ok, is there a timeline on that?

ghoti said:
Nice thing about the ecosystems I choose... I get choice. I get to choose if I want to see the flash ads or not, I get to choose if I want to play the flash game or watch the flash video if I want to or if I dont want to. Its my choice. Not an Apple COO.
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Well done. Perhaps you should consider though that people who use Apple products have a choice as well.
 
I'm an Android user (HTC Desire), and I have no problems with Flash content. My phone doesn't struggle, or die. Battery life seems unaffected for my usage pattern. Mostly it is used for embedded Youtube/Vimeo/Facebook etc videos in news articles and blog posts. I have freedom. I quite like the iPhone 4 as well, but it does not give me the same freedom and choice as Android. Not a train smash if I didn't have flash, but having the freedom to choose is way cooler.

As per seeing the web with adverts, I prefer it this way - don't really mind. We've really moved on from the ugly flashing adverts, scareware, trickware, malware, popups, etc of the late 90's and early 00's. I couldn't care less if the adverts were flash-based or PNG or GIF. I often do click on adverts if they interest me, and have found some really good companies, online stores, and specials. Also found a crap-load of other nonsense, but those are dealt with swiftly, painlessly. I tried using ad-blockers and flash-blockers, but the whole web experience just seemed emptier.

The internet without Flash or adverts, is like driving through JHB with no taxis. It just wouldn't be the same, less colourful, more monotonous, arguably more peaceful.

In any case, point is, you should be given the freedom choose.
 
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