ADSL prices over the years

Betonro said:
And for almost as many years, these forums have been filled with "Telkom this, Telscum that" or "Telkom is raping us" and so forth.

Yet, all this time Telkom has been attempting (with varied levels of success) to do exactly what it should be doing. Telkom is a company, and as such, has only one mandate: To maximise return on investment for its shareholders. A company is not responsible for the well-being of the public or the growth of a country, it is responsible for only itself.

These forums are filled with so much misdirected hatred. The entity responsible and accountable for the telecommunication problems (and so much more) is the South African government, for poor regulation and protecting the monopoly. Ultimately then, as with almost every other problem in South Africa, the blame should fall upon 66% of the population of South Africans, by last count.
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And there's nothing we can do about that, except emigrate.
 
We've come a long way... but we still have a long way to go.

Average 4/8 meg ADSL price in the USA is $30 with an unlimited/250 Gig cap.
 
Yesterday,
All my troubles seemed so far away,
Now it looks as though they're here to stay,
Oh, I believe in yesterday.
 
lol memories . . . i remember call more and then R7 was the thing and you just hope you don't get disconnected dial up 8pm on Friday and hope it lasts the weekend lol... those where the days ha ha waiting 10 minutes for a page to open with what on it probably text lol... mp3 download sure in 30mins ...
 
Tjoker said:
What is shocking is that Analogue line rental doubled since 2002.......
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Those Btards! I've never noticed this, they might drop the ADSL "line rental" every few years or so and then all they do is make up for it by increasing the phone line rental.
 
superskully said:
Telkom is a Parastatal. Their shareholders are the govt which is indirectly us (us as shareholders not govt).
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Its irrelevant that the government are shareholders. The govt do not own 100%. THere are ither shareholders that have rights.

Telkom are a listed company.
The Directors have a duty and an obligation to earn a decent return for their shareholders

I am expecting a lot of crying about
* Line rental
* and the usual cap whinge (buy more there's a suggestion)
Not the topic of the thread but that does not stop people.

The UK went through the same transition as SA. Initially high ADSL prices, low bandwidth etc.
They are a good few years ahead of us.

The reality is that my 4Mb line today is way cheaper than the 512k line of a years ago
 
kaaskop said:
Why am i to blame? I haven't got a telkom line. I vote with my wallet. The problem is theres no one else. Its the Devil or his wife (iBurst) for me. Iam with the wife atm, i just like woman better, but thats just me.
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I didn't say you are to blame. You might have misunderstood my comment about 66% of the population (or more accurately, that portion of the voters). It has nothing to do with being a customer of Telkom.
 
Give me the 512 Uncapped, raw power at R680.00 any day today, I will take it. So after all these years we still remain worse off!
 
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kiepie said:
Will Telkom ever provide ADSL without the mandatory line rental? :(
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acidb said:
Not until LLU becomes more than just a dream
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You will always have to pay for the analogue line rental, Even with LLU. Whether the costs are absorbed into the overall bill or charged separately (as it is at the moment) some money will be channelled into the maintenance and expansion of that piece of copper wire (/fibre/cable/wireless/etc.) that brings the signal inside your home.

Actually, even though the billing is a pain in the ass, having the analogue line rental billed separately gives a lot more transparency to what the composition is of our overall internet costs. Which leads us to notice things like the following:

Tjoker said:
What is shocking is that Analogue line rental doubled since 2002.......
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moggie said:
I'm afraid that the broadband bus has been moving too fast for Telkom to cope with...

The rest of the first class telecoms world has migrated to bullet trains and we are still on a PUTCO bus held together with bloudraad!
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hehehe :D

At least the bus is moving, and we're not walking (aka 52k dial-up speeds)
 
Should have made a comparison with bandwidth aswell... Down from 30 gigs to 3... Awesome value...
 
i see no pattern when i look at the comparison table, and the only reason is that you are dealing
with a monopoly: no link between revenues and costs, and they just decide whatever they want
to charge. and to think they could have benefitted the country so much...
 
I guess there'll be fewer complaints about line rental if everything worked as it should.
If you really think about it you are paying Telkom R413 p/m to install & maintain your 4Mbps line. That's R5000 a year.
Why would anyone settle for a line that doesn't sync at full speed? Phone them & bug them until they fix it for you - after all you're paying them for that line. Every single month.
 
some money will be channelled into the maintenance and expansion of that piece of copper wire (/fibre/cable/wireless/etc.) that brings the signal inside your home.
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I never knew Telkom actually does regular maintenance on their copper in residential areas.....but that was a good laugh. :p
 
Techrat said:
I wondered if other countries have the same, afaik in the UK you have the same thing. (People there also don't like it :p)
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In north america if you have telephone service thru Bell (telkom) then you don't pay. If you wish to rid yourself of Bell your order a dry loop and pay about $10.00 per month for it. now to may use any service provider and also voip.

That is the simple explanation.
 
Techrat said:
I wondered if other countries have the same, afaik in the UK you have the same thing. (People there also don't like it :p)
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Yes we do. However, it's including the full voice line.
So basically, we pay for the ISP + telephone line + call package.

My ISP is Sky, I'm paying for up to 24mbits uncapped for 10 pounds per month. The thing is I'm only getting 8mbit :mad: and I have to pay for Sky TV aswell as my BT line.

In total, 50 pounds a month for Satelite TV, phone line and internet. :-) Much cheaper than what I'm paying in South Africa atm.
 
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