ADSL versus Wi-Fi

Beetman : don't bother... Rouxenator is a wireless troll.. he thinks wireless is better than a wired connection... and its the future for all types of network connections.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Beetman : don't bother... Rouxenator is a wireless troll.. he thinks wireless is better than a wired connection... and its the future for all types of network connections.
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thank for the heads up, started to get that impression ;)
 
No ways - I hate wireless and I love wires. I also do not care if my neighbours think funny of me for plugging in a 15km extention cable everytime I leave home. There ain't no way I am going to use the air from communication - I need wires. They are kewl.
 
Rouxenator said:
No ways - I hate wireless and I love wires. I also do not care if my neighbours think funny of me for plugging in a 15km extention cable everytime I leave home. There ain't no way I am going to use the air from communication - I need wires. They are kewl.
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Yes totally, and the new fibre-to-air connections are the shiznezz. Plus you can breathe in air, super kewl.
 
When I used MTN and a storm raged outside I could actually stil keep playing games(probably because their gprs ran at 10kBps combined with edge, 3G and Hsdpa) they had a lot of frequencies to send data at so the storm couldn't really influence it all.
 
Good things about wireless:
*No cable theft.
*No rental line fee.
*Portable.

Bad things about wireless:
*High latency.
*Slow.
*Downtimes from loaded network (sometimes during peak hours and always on Monday mornings).
*Coverage problems.

For ADSL, swap words "Good" and "Bad".

Honestly, ADSL is required only for gaming and latency sensitive applications (business).
Wireless can be used for everything, even for VOIP and gaming (natural latency for international, getting kicked from most FPS servers).
Wireless have less downtime time than land line. Usually they get stripped for weekends and 1-2 days of downtime guaranteed (in some extreme cases, they were left unfixed for months) and wireless may vary from minutes to hours a week.

I'm not protecting wireless or ADSL. Just move out points that were checked practically.
 
Jagtiger, I fully agree with you. My wireless connection was a leap of faith I took and I am absolutely amazed at how good wireless can be.
 
Jagtiger - you make practical points about one vs t'other.

Rouxenator - you also make a good argument for wireless...

BUT - you are all forgetting a very important point. Sometimes WiFi subscribers just don't have a choice of technologies. Most of you are talking from the privileged position of actually having a selection of technologies AND providers to choose from! That's a very blinkered and self-centred view in my opinion.

If you knock a technology because of the difference in performance vs another technology, then you deserve to have been burnt if you made the wrong choice by not researching the limitations of each.

Clearly fibre is king - so if latencies and availability are your criteria for measuring your service - don't be a cheap-ass, stop moaning and cough up for the rolls royce. Providers will dig a channel to your doorstep if you don't already have one...

If you are lucky enough to have an existing copper line to your premises, and can tolerate cable theft/flooding/lightning taking your line out for days or weeks and possibly not replaced if it is a persistent pattern, then Copper/ADSL is the cheap-ass alternative to fibre. Good luck trying to get Telkom to lay a cable to your doorstep in 6 weeks....

Wireless fills a very big gap in the supply of telecoms services to under-serviced areas and areas with high incidences cable theft. There are definitely good and bad operators out there, and not all have been trained properly, but to make sweeping statements like none of them have 'spectrometers' (spectrum analysers?) or RF training (wirelessvsadsl!!) is just presumptuous and wrong.

Ditto the statement that they all run off bundled ADSL lines - total b.s.! Some do, it is true, but equally some run their networks with telco-grade 5.8GHz backbones with 100's of Mbps capacity installed by professional RF technicians. What makes you think ALL the bandwidth of EVERY wifi provider goes down a single chain of backbone links? Ever considered that 10 or 20x4Mbps ADSL lines may be feeding diverse paths? (where DO you get 20xADSL = 17Mbps???)

So what if the WiSP's source is fibre or bundled ADSL's? if you are getting a 'broadband' service that you never had, and it's reasonably reliable within the expectations of wireless as a technology, then what's really at issue here? WiFi can supply a very good service for the average subscriber. In some cases, it may even be a superior choice (assuming you have a choice).

Service providers are just that - and now you have freedom of choice of service providers - so let everyone know who the bad ones are, give the good ones their due and please let's quit this pointless 'ADSL is better than wireless' debate!

We should rather debate religion or politics - it's less subjective...
 
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when i get it i'll do a few tests, 250 for a 512wireless aint so bad....
 
there is a difference between WIFI and WIMax btw
 
the end result

I am not endorsing Telkom but at the end of the day if you have wireless or not your ISP still uses telkom for diginet and adsl to supply the customer the wireless is only used for last mile delivery so we are all only as good as telkom gives thats it.....
 
wirelessvsadsl said:
I am not endorsing Telkom but at the end of the day if you have wireless or not your ISP still uses telkom for diginet and adsl to supply the customer the wireless is only used for last mile delivery so we are all only as good as telkom gives thats it.....
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wirelessvsadls not to be rude but have you ever considered maybe using punctuation it really helps others to read your posts and it really isnt that hard to add takes a few seconds actually then there are also paragraphs thats the spacing between sentences that usually points out the start of a new thought or argument just thought I would point it out as I find reading your posts while informative a real drag perhaps thank you good bye talk later
 
I am in the process of attempting to cancel my Uninet (Klear) account. The capped 3GB package is simply no longer competitive.

I say "attempting", because none of the accounts consultants are getting back to me.

The uncapped accounts were throttled to death.
 
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