Afrihost Business Uncapped Feedback - 2

[Orihalcon]

I don't mean to sound obtuse but if you could point me in the direction of which expert said that torrents and http run at different speeds because of variable packet size? But for the sake of debate then let's assume that somehow this is true... Then why if I run a web server (plain ol' HTTP) listening on tcp port 80, tcp port 40000 and tcp port 10000 with a single file download with single thread do I get different speeds for downloading from each?

VERY interested to hear the answer to this...

Asking the right questions.

EDIT: And not answered. Go figure.

 

[AfriGuy]

Maybe throw a hint at Gian?

The minute I hear anything I'll have it posted.
Both AfriMan and I are pestering everyone for updates.

 

[AfriGuy]

a months free service ? seeing as no one is able to use data anyways.

I'm sure this is something being looked into my Management, it's not something that I can authorise at this stage though

 

[AfriGuy]

Yes and now the web hosting and email are down since this morning:-

Official response:=

"We are having some unexpected load spikes on our Cloud Hosting/Shared Hosting environment. Thereby, you may face some issues in connecting to the server and the websites hosted on it/ accessing control panel. The cause is unknown but our senior server administration team is addressing the issue with top priority."


Really! Now the IOS update has started affecting web hosting and email. No idea what the problem is.I notice also that fixed IP's are having issues:-

"We are currently receiving reports the Business DSL clients using Static IPs are authenticating on the network but not able to get any data transfer. Our engineers are currently working on this to restore normal services and we apologise for any inconvenience."

In fact if you look at the network status you will see that the entire country has issues at the moment.

Once again. Just come clean and be honest!

We didn't mention/ confirm anywhere that iOS was related to the DC issues that where experienced. The two are entirely unrelated.

 

[i.got~issues]

We didn't mention/ confirm anywhere that iOS was related to the DC issues that where experienced. The two are entirely unrelated.

Actually you are correct... you are constantly repeating "possibly", "maybe", "should be", "soon"... nothing definite except degraded performance, rubbish throughput, managed, optimised and monitored.

I have this mental image of Gian and the AH staff all in a big hold-hands-huddle praying for demand to ease... and THAT is all that is being done about this.

 

[quovadis]

My example showed how the two services differ in terms of what they look like on a network. The bigger the packet size when contention levels are reached the more the speeds may become degraded.

I think you may want to change "packet size" to another term since your understanding of TCP is flawed. But I won't even debate this with you as I would like to focus on my previous question... Please explain how the same HTTP service on 3 different TCP ports (one standard and two random high ports) will experience differing speeds with a single thread download?

 

[NarrowBand]

We didn't mention/ confirm anywhere that iOS was related to the DC issues that where experienced. The two are entirely unrelated.

So can you explain why the web hosting and email are not working then?

You seem to imply that these issues "were experienced". They are still very current and email and web hosting are still not working.

Come clean!! Sick of semi-truths and avoiding any straight answers.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

I'll need to see exactly what has happened here, but definitely doesn't sound right. Did you perhaps receive an email saying there was a discrepancy between your line speed at Telkom and speed on ClientZone?

Drop me a PM and I'll check it out.

Done

Many thanks

 

[AfriGuy]

I think you may want to change "packet size" to another term since your understanding of TCP is flawed. But I won't even debate this with you as I would like to focus on my previous question... Please explain how the same HTTP service on 3 different TCP ports (one standard and two random high ports) will experience differing speeds with a single thread download?

It probably is, I don't claim to be a network expert.
Torrents and HTTP is different, I don't think anyone can argue differently.

 

[gson]

guys i think we beating on the wrong person here..

 

[requiem]

It is fairly simple.

Afrihost are shaping the **** out of all accounts because of lack of capacity.

They will deny to the end of days that this is the case. We can all see what is happening.

Must be quite tough on Afriguy/man/girl to keep denying the obvious.

 

[AfriGuy]

So can you explain why the web hosting and email are not working then?

You seem to imply that these issues "were experienced". They are still very current and email and web hosting are still not working.

Come clean!! Sick of semi-truths and avoidind any honest answers.

Again, how can the two possibly be related?
I honestly think this is the wrong thread to discuss this. We're just throwing around accusations now to no real benefit to anyone.

There was an issue in the DC causing servers to go down. Further updates are provided via our Noticeboard.

 

[NarcoticJ]

Afriguy

If this new practice of "Network optimization" has been implemented based on congestion on your Business accounts. Which I presume is a new practice because I've never had it before today. Doesn't calling it a Business account become a bit redundant?

I mean if Uncapped accounts are "semi shaped" and Business Uncapped account are "optimized" what are we paying Afrihost more for? What's next....Are Capped accounts also go to be "optimized"?

 

[AfriGuy]

Afriguy

If this new practice of "Network optimization" has been implemented based on congestion on your Business accounts. Which I presume is a new practice because I've never had it before today. Doesn't calling it a Business account become a bit redundant?

I mean if Uncapped accounts are "semi shaped" and Business Uncapped account are "optimized" what are we paying Afrihost more for? What's next....Are Capped accounts also go to be "optimized"?

Nothing is changing permanently on these accounts. Please refer to my previous posts around why downloads may be slow.

 

[quovadis]

It probably is, I don't claim to be a network expert.
Torrents and HTTP is different, I don't think anyone can argue differently.

And yet you still don't answer the question...

Let me rephrase. FORGET TORRENTS for the purpose of this question.

1) I have set up an ordinary httpd service which listens on 3 different TCP ports (80 which is standard, 10000 which is an aribtary number and 40000)
2) The service is a basic apache httpd which hosts a single file.
3) If I access the service (one at a time) via http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/thefile.zip or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:10000/thefile.zip or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:40000/thefile.zip the resulting downloads are at different speeds.

How is it that all three single thread downloads run at different speeds and the higher ports seem to have inferior performance?

 

[Former member 61586]

Why don't afrihost simply throttle the home uncapped users?? Nobody cares about them anyway. And they should be used to crap internet anyway.

 

[AfriGuy]

And yet you still don't answer the question...

Let me rephrase. FORGET TORRENTS for the purpose of this question.

1) I have set up an ordinary httpd service which listens on 3 different TCP ports (80 which is standard, 10000 which is an aribtary number and 40000)
2) The service is a basic apache httpd which hosts a single file.
3) If I access the service (one at a time) via http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/thefile.zip or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:10000/thefile.zip or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:40000/thefile.zip the resulting downloads are at different speeds.

How is it that all three single thread downloads run at different speeds and the higher ports seem to have inferior performance?

As I said, I can't debate technical details. I don't have intricate tech know how.
What I can say, is that torrents run differently to HTTP.

 

[AfriGuy]

Why don't afrihost simply throttle the home uncapped users?? Nobody cares about them anyway. And they should be used to crap internet anyway.

I don't think that's fair, we can't downgrade a certain clients experience entirely.
Uncapped accounts are shaped during peak hours in any case.

 

[i.got~issues]

Tail chasing again.... will get absolutely nowhere.

Exactly like the previous IPC mumblemumble waffle deny.

Pointless... I guess we will just have to wait until the Staff Writer article about the IPC again... and then begin the great Telkom Countdown until switch-through again.

 

[quovadis]

As I said, I can't debate technical details. I don't have intricate tech know how.
What I can say, is that torrents run differently to HTTP.

I am not talking about torrents. I am talking about a website running on 3 different ports having different speeds when accessed on those different ports.