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[diepeterpan]

Mine's fscked completely. Can't even get 1/10th of my linespeed, websites simply not loading etc.

I am on Afrihost business, also only getting a 10th of the speed, WTF Def. some rules mis-firing, when starting VPN things get better, but I can't VPN the whole time....... Hmmmmmm.....

 

[Vorastra]

My line speed peaked at 850kbps ... ... I thought the speedtests were just reporting incorrectly ... guess I can't get my full 1Mbps

That's normal. You cannot get 100% of your ADSL line due to packet overhead. Rule of thumb is usually line speed multiplied by 0.875 since 1/8th of the line/packet is used for packet overhead.

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

That's normal. You cannot get 100% of your ADSL line due to packet overhead. Rule of thumb is usually line speed multiplied by 0.875 since 1/8th of the line is used for packet overhead.

About a month maybe 2 months ago before AG went sour, I was maxing my line on both speed tests and downloads

Steam, utorrent and my FTP download manage reported an average speed of 1Mbps and I had peak speeds of 1.4Mbps.

My VOX and WA accounts also max my line completely

 

[Vorastra]

About a month maybe 2 months ago before AG went sour, I was maxing my line on both speed tests and downloads

Steam, utorrent and my FTP download manage reported an average speed of 1Mbps and I had peak speeds of 1.4Mbps.

My VOX and WA accounts also max my line completely

Uh, how can you be getting 1.4Mbps on a 1Mbps line...How fast is your line?

 

[al4bb]

Pietermaritzburg 8Mbs line

Afrigreen
Ping Test:

ping 197.242.144.102

64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=29 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=2 ttl=55 time=29 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=3 ttl=55 time=28 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=4 ttl=55 time=83 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=5 ttl=55 time=73 ms


ping 8.8.8.8

64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=57 time=69 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=4 ttl=57 time=25 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5


Trace Test:

traceroute -n 197.242.144.102

1 192.168.1.1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 Request timed out * * *
3 169.1.5.5 70 ms 18 ms 19 ms
4 169.1.5.6 31 ms 26 ms 25 ms
5 169.1.5.5 78 ms 17 ms 68 ms
6 41.169.57.2 18 ms 19 ms 65 ms
7 172.18.16.3 26 ms 55 ms 25 ms
8 196.223.14.3 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms
9 196.44.31.9 23 ms 23 ms
196.44.0.2 29 ms
10 196.30.1.3 29 ms 28 ms
196.44.31.9 23 ms
11 196.31.220.2 24 ms 23 ms 26 ms
12 196.31.63.2 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms
13 196.30.42.1 25 ms 23 ms 24 ms
14 197.242.144.1 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms


traceroute -n 8.8.8.8

1 192.168.1.1 1 ms 1 ms
2 Request timed out * *
3 169.1.5.5 19 ms 18 ms
4 169.1.5.1 25 ms 26 ms
5 169.1.5.5 18 ms 18 ms
6 196.46.25.1 47 ms 18 ms
7 72.14.239.3 19 ms 71 ms
8 8.8.8.8 24 ms 25 ms


Afrihost
Ping Test:

ping 197.242.144.102

64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=1 ttl=58 time=75 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=2 ttl=58 time=80 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=3 ttl=58 time=53 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=4 ttl=58 time=56 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5


ping 8.8.8.8

Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=2 ttl=41 time=236 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=3 ttl=41 time=235 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=4 ttl=41 time=272 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=5 ttl=41 time=236 ms


Trace Test:

traceroute -n 197.242.144.102

1 192.168.1.1 1 ms 1 ms
2 Request timed out * *
3 41.181.221.2 53 ms 26 ms
4 41.181.221.2 47 ms 20 ms
5 41.181.165.1 47 ms 20 ms
6 196.44.31.1 78 ms 20 ms
7 196.31.220.1 26 ms
196.44.31.9 20 ms
8 196.31.220.2 21 ms
196.31.220.1 26 ms
9 196.31.63.2 21 ms
196.31.220.2 21 ms
10 196.30.42.1 29 ms
196.31.63.2 20 ms
11 197.242.144.1 20 ms
196.30.42.1 21 ms


traceroute -n 8.8.8.8

1 192.168.1.1 1 ms 1 ms
2 Request timed out * *
3 41.181.221.2 26 ms 26 ms
4 41.181.221.2 19 ms 20 ms
5 41.181.165.1 20 ms 20 ms
6 196.44.31.1 20 ms 21 ms
7 41.181.139.1 26 ms 31 ms
8 8.8.8.8 235 ms


Telkom
Ping Test:

ping 197.242.144.102

64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=44 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=2 ttl=55 time=42 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=3 ttl=55 time=42 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=4 ttl=55 time=43 ms
64 bytes from 197.242.144.102: icmp_req=5 ttl=55 time=43 ms


ping 8.8.8.8

64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=28 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=2 ttl=56 time=28 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=3 ttl=56 time=28 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=4 ttl=56 time=27 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=5 ttl=56 time=79 ms


Trace Test:

traceroute -n 197.242.144.102

1 Request timed out * * *
2 105.229.0.1 16 ms 98 ms 16 ms
3 105.229.0.1 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms
4 105.229.0.2 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms
5 196.25.190.8 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms
6 196.43.11.2 38 ms 37 ms 41 ms
7 196.43.25.2 43 ms 44 ms 43 ms
8 196.44.18.1 39 ms 38 ms 38 ms
9 196.44.31.5 44 ms 44 ms 43 ms
10 196.44.31.1 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms
11 196.44.31.1 65 ms 39 ms 38 ms
12 196.44.0.2 47 ms
196.44.31.9 47 ms
196.44.31.6 42 ms
13 196.31.220.1 43 ms 43 ms
196.44.31.9 48 ms
14 196.31.220.2 41 ms 41 ms
196.31.220.1 43 ms
15 196.31.63.2 42 ms 42 ms
196.31.220.2 41 ms
16 197.242.144.1 75 ms 42 ms
196.31.63.2 42 ms
17 196.30.42.1 50 ms
18 197.242.144.1 43 ms


traceroute -n 8.8.8.8

1 Request timed out * * *
2 105.229.0.1 10 ms 58 ms 9 ms
3 105.229.0.1 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms
4 105.229.0.2 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms
5 105.229.0.3 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms
6 105.187.249.2 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms
7 105.187.249.2 28 ms 29 ms 28 ms
8 105.187.249.2 29 ms 29 ms 28 ms
9 72.14.239.3 23 ms 23 ms
8.8.8.8 28 ms
10 8.8.8.8 28 ms 28 ms

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

Uh, how can you be getting 1.4Mbps on a 1Mbps line...How fast is your line?

It's called burst speed... It happens on all lines when load is down and contention ratios allow it

It doesn't run constantly @ that speed it's a burst speed, few secons/minutes where your line runs @ max and then drops back down


@ work we have a 4mbps line and yesterday we were hitting damn near 500kbps download speed

 

[Vorastra]

It's called burst speed... It happens on all lines when load is down and contention ratios allow it

It doesn't run constantly @ that speed it's a burst speed, few secons/minutes where your line runs @ max and then drops back down

I believe none of this. Hopefully your issue gets fixed

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

I believe none of this. Hopefully your issue get's fixed

Then you should maybe try reading up some... Don't show ignorance publicly so easily

 

[Vorastra]

Then you should maybe try reading up some... Don't show ignorance publicly so easily

ADSL cannot work at 100% speeds. That is fact. A 4mbit user gets ~3560kbit real world speed. A 1mbit user gets ~890kbit ideally.

Let's read up as you say:

http://pflog.net/dsl_overhead/
http://blog.ipspace.net/2009/03/adsl-overhead.html
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13841
http://wand.net.nz/~513/2006/readings/adsl-2.pdf

An ADSL line has overhead. VDSL and Fibre have more efficient overheads. This is fact. You should not be getting 1024kbit on your 1024kbit line.

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

-snip-

I will see if I have any screenies I took before of my line @ full speed ...

And let me guess, if I post any pictures showing over 1000kbps you just going to tell me it's either reporting incorrectly or the pics are edited ?

 

[Vorastra]

I will see if I have any screenies I took before of my line @ full speed ...

Cool. Please do. It would be quicker just to screenshot the ADSL status section in your router. Looks something like this. http://i.imgur.com/I4ZgSZ5.png

 

[techead]

Vorastra you talking nonsense 8mbps line sync will get you 800kB/sec

Seen and proven time and time again

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

Cool. Please do. It would be quicker just to screenshot the ADSL status section in your router. Looks something like this. http://i.imgur.com/I4ZgSZ5.png

So if I am supposed to get a max of what did you say 800kbps, explain this ? (and this is during peak times, burst speeds highly unlikely)




Here is the router status page -




Those speeds are from my WA account, same downloads using AG are easily 100kbps-200kbps slower


:::EDIT:::

Vorastra you talking nonsense 8mbps line sync will get you 800kB/sec

Seen and proven time and time again

Was starting to think all the chatting with ISP reps and my studies were leading me to believe I was wrong

 

[Vorastra]

So if I am supposed to get a max of what did you say 800kbps, explain this ?

You have a 10mbps line. You said you had a 1mbps line...Seriously dude..There is a difference between 1mbps and 1MB/s....Seems we had a misunderstanding.

10240*0.875 = 8192/8 = 1120KB/s.

Next time. Label your mbps and MB/s. There's a difference.

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

You have a 10mbps line. You said you had a 1mbps line...Seriously dude..There is a difference between 1mbps and 1MB/s....Seems we had a misunderstanding.

I said 1Mbps download speed :wtf:

The whole time I am speaking about download speeds and me getting 8Mbps on my speedtests not my full speed ?

Why would that lead you to believe I had a 1Mbps package


Even if I did make that mistake and word it poorly. The theory behind burst speeds is still the same (just lower numbers)

And your 1/8th line speed missing is still wrong

ADSL cannot work at 100% speeds. That is fact.

:::EDIT:::

Seems I did word it poorly, but still even if I said speed tests reporting 800kbps that clearly indicated that I don't have a 1Mbps line ... ... at least it should be pretty clear

 

[Vorastra]

Vorastra you talking nonsense 8mbps line sync will get you 800kB/sec

Seen and proven time and time again

Read my comments. Notice the bits and not bytes.

I said 1Mbps download speed.

Because small b stands for bits...not bytes...

And your 1/8th line speed missing is still wrong

But it isn't. Your line is a 10240kbit line. 10240*0.875 = 8960/8= 1.12MB/s

 

[techead]

Read my comments. Notice the bits and not bytes.

oooh boy

 

[AfriMan]

Morning All

As you may now, we're having some issues with our main DSL network. AfriGreen users should not be affected at all. Please stay on AfriGreen for the moment and things should be perfect.

Thanks for all the awesome feedback, the guys are very happy that the migration seems to have gone really well

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

Read my comments. Notice the bits and not bytes.



Because small b stands for bits...not bytes...

But it isn't. Your line is a 10240kbit line. 10240*0.875 = 8960/8= 1.12MB/s

I capitalized the M and left off the uppercase B ... easy mistake but the fact I still capitalized some of it should of indicated something ... ... Still ... doesn't explain your 1/8 theory and the burst speed theory and yeah ... not arguing any longer

 

[Emissary_Of_Pain]

Morning All

As you may now, we're having some issues with our main DSL network. AfriGreen users should not be affected at all. Please stay on AfriGreen for the moment and things should be perfect.

Thanks for all the awesome feedback, the guys are very happy that the migration seems to have gone really well

Morning

Overall I am seeing much better results ... so lets hope this keeps up.


Question though:

Speedtests showing me getting a max of like 8MBps while WA shows pretty much full line speed.

Download speeds on both P2P and FTP seem to be around 150kbps slower on AG than WA/VOX ... ... Is this just a teething issue ?