Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt2)

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SA’s biggest ADSL bandwidth hogs: eye-opening stats revealed

I have a question regarding the figures of Afrihost.

It states that the no 1 went to a user who managed 1490 GB download on a uncapped account (non-Business) in one month.

Now if I calculate 1500 GB / 30 / 24 = 2.08 GB per hour /360 = 34 MB / sek

Maybe it's just me, but in best of times I get download rates like that, let alone constant for a whole month.

As soon as I had downloaded 30GB I was throttled. So is there something I don't know, or how is that these people still have the possibility of downloading when it is being said that the throttling is determened by the amount you download?
 
1500gb = 1 Month / 31 days =
48.38gb a day / 24 hours =
2.02gb a hour

2gb= 2000 megs

2000 megs an hour / 60 minutes =

33.33 megs a minute / 60 seconds =

0.555 meg ( 555 kb/s ) a second
 
AfriGuy said:
Let's give it a bit of time, added capacity won't see benefits straight off the bat. It should start to ease soon.
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Well it's 0600 and still shaped at 50% - don't know how much you paid Telkom for the extra bandwidth but perhaps you should try for your money back. Since there will be no more "improvements" now until January due to the Telkom network freeze this means I will be stuck with heavy shaping until at least then, by which time the Telkom speed upgrades will be completed so yet more competition for the available bandwidth.
I made the mistake last month of thinking things had settled down and decided to keep going with Afrihost, even transferred my line to them - big mistake. Now I am going to have to sort that out and transfer back to Telkom before I can even think about another ISP.
 
Convex said:
1500gb = 1 Month / 31 days =
48.38gb a day / 24 hours =
2.02gb a hour

2gb= 2000 megs

2000 megs an hour / 60 minutes =

33.33 megs a minute / 60 seconds =

0.555 meg ( 555 kb/s ) a second
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Pretty normal sped considering my mate gets fairly consistent 430kb on a 4 meg line
 
How is usenet for everyone? Getting 10-20 KB/s on my 4mb line for the past couple days. Office hours and at night.
 
vicv said:
Afridude, my line keeps dropping after it was down earlier tonight.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
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C:\Users\Vic>tracert afrihost.co.za
Unable to resolve target system name afrihost.co.za.

C:\Users\Vic>tracert afrihost.co.za
Unable to resolve target system name afrihost.co.za.

C:\Users\Vic>tracert afrihost.co.za

Tracing route to afrihost.co.za [197.242.144.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 105-236-4-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.
4.129]
3 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms ipc-recieve-rb-3a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.178
.77]
4 20 ms 16 ms 17 ms rb-cr-1.za--rb-dca-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.14
6]
5 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms jh-cr-2.za--rb-cr-1.za-b.mtnns.net [196.44.31.17
1]
6 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165
.115]
7 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 196.44.31.99
8 * 16 ms 16 ms 196.30.1.53
9 * 192.168.0.1 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Vic>
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Looks like a line issue. Have you tested with the telkom guest account to see if it still drops?
 
I'm moving to Gillitts, Durban from outside SA next month and am looking at a 10mbps line from Afrihost or TI. My idea is to go with a higher speed line and use Apple TV instead of DSTV. Am I correct in saying that the general gist of the Afrihost service is this:

During the day the line will be shaped depending on the network load but generally I will get a much lower speed than 10mbps.

Torrents run very slowly during the day.

Everything, including torrents, should run at full speed after about 7pm through the night and I will be able to stream in HD from, for example, Hulu+ in the evenings.

Once I hit a certain (vague) number of GB for the month the line will be increasingly slow for the next 30 days until useage drops. Some posts have mentioned as little as 30GB for this. I'm guessing I'll use 200ish GB per month which would then mean a degraded speed for most of it?
 
Zimsean said:
I'm moving to Gillitts, Durban from outside SA next month and am looking at a 10mbps line from Afrihost or TI. My idea is to go with a higher speed line and use Apple TV instead of DSTV. Am I correct in saying that the general gist of the Afrihost service is this:

During the day the line will be shaped depending on the network load but generally I will get a much lower speed than 10mbps.

Torrents run very slowly during the day.

Everything, including torrents, should run at full speed after about 7pm through the night and I will be able to stream in HD from, for example, Hulu+ in the evenings.

Once I hit a certain (vague) number of GB for the month the line will be increasingly slow for the next 30 days until useage drops. Some posts have mentioned as little as 30GB for this. I'm guessing I'll use 200ish GB per month which would then mean a degraded speed for most of it?
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No. Your assumption not correct.

What you are describing sounds more like OpenWeb policy. Read the AUP on Afrihost's site for a breakdown of how their approach to bandwidth management works.
 
Zimsean said:
I'm moving to Gillitts, Durban from outside SA next month and am looking at a 10mbps line from Afrihost or TI. My idea is to go with a higher speed line and use Apple TV instead of DSTV. Am I correct in saying that the general gist of the Afrihost service is this:

During the day the line will be shaped depending on the network load but generally I will get a much lower speed than 10mbps.

Torrents run very slowly during the day.

Everything, including torrents, should run at full speed after about 7pm through the night and I will be able to stream in HD from, for example, Hulu+ in the evenings.

Once I hit a certain (vague) number of GB for the month the line will be increasingly slow for the next 30 days until useage drops. Some posts have mentioned as little as 30GB for this. I'm guessing I'll use 200ish GB per month which would then mean a degraded speed for most of it?
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Nope. I get full 10mbps 24/7 - but that depends where you live (I'm in Cape Town). Afrihost will only shape torrents and http downloads when the network load is heavy. Youtube and other streaming is never shaped, ever. There is no "soft cap" such as the 200GB you suggested, but when the network is under strain, you will be shaped on downloads.
 
Smokey_sa said:
SA’s biggest ADSL bandwidth hogs: eye-opening stats revealed

I have a question regarding the figures of Afrihost.

It states that the no 1 went to a user who managed 1490 GB download on a uncapped account (non-Business) in one month.

Now if I calculate 1500 GB / 30 / 24 = 2.08 GB per hour /360 = 34 MB / sek

Maybe it's just me, but in best of times I get download rates like that, let alone constant for a whole month.

As soon as I had downloaded 30GB I was throttled. So is there something I don't know, or how is that these people still have the possibility of downloading when it is being said that the throttling is determened by the amount you download?
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Remember that this also includes upload stats. So if someone is on a VDSL line, for example, they may only use a 10Mbps account but still have the benefit of the increased upload speeds of VDSL - which can be 3Mbps +
 
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated. It sounds like good news - I didn't think 10mbps 24/7 ever really happened in SA unless on a very expensive business line.

One more question - in reality how often is the network under strain and shaping applied? From what Zertop said, not that often. Paging through the forums and hearing complaints I got the impression that it seems to be fairly frequent.
 
Shamus said:
Well it's 0600 and still shaped at 50% - don't know how much you paid Telkom for the extra bandwidth but perhaps you should try for your money back. Since there will be no more "improvements" now until January due to the Telkom network freeze this means I will be stuck with heavy shaping until at least then, by which time the Telkom speed upgrades will be completed so yet more competition for the available bandwidth.
I made the mistake last month of thinking things had settled down and decided to keep going with Afrihost, even transferred my line to them - big mistake. Now I am going to have to sort that out and transfer back to Telkom before I can even think about another ISP.
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We are definitely seeing an improvement - but with the North seeing such heavy demand, the provisional capacity we secured will only really lighten the burden and hopefully improve overall experience. We're seeing generally better throughput on realtime services already and capped and business performance is back to excellent as it should be.

We don't have an ETA on the full order but we definitely expect to see better all round experience as business start winding down for the festive season
 
3600 seconds in a hour

Smokey_sa said:
SA’s biggest ADSL bandwidth hogs: eye-opening stats revealed

I have a question regarding the figures of Afrihost.

It states that the no 1 went to a user who managed 1490 GB download on a uncapped account (non-Business) in one month.

Now if I calculate 1500 GB / 30 / 24 = 2.08 GB per hour /360 = 34 MB / sek

Maybe it's just me, but in best of times I get download rates like that, let alone constant for a whole month.

As soon as I had downloaded 30GB I was throttled. So is there something I don't know, or how is that these people still have the possibility of downloading when it is being said that the throttling is determened by the amount you download?
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Zertop said:
Snip....... Youtube and other streaming is never shaped, ever. ..............
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I disagree. I had to turbo charge my account a few days ago, just to be able to stream something. And no, nothing else was downloading and no torrents were active.

When shaped, Youtube buffers for me, even @ 144p. This is on my 2mb line. Do a turbo charge and it streams happily @ 360p and sometimes @ 720p with minor buffering at the start.
 
Zimsean said:
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated. It sounds like good news - I didn't think 10mbps 24/7 ever really happened in SA unless on a very expensive business line.

One more question - in reality how often is the network under strain and shaping applied? From what Zertop said, not that often. Paging through the forums and hearing complaints I got the impression that it seems to be fairly frequent.
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Cape Town - I hardly get any shaping anymore. However, Gauteng is quite bad (extra capacity arrived yesterday and more is on the way so it shouldnt be that bad anymore). If im not mistaken, durban is also quite good on shaping?
 
pjjdp said:
I disagree. I had to turbo charge my account a few days ago, just to be able to stream something. And no, nothing else was downloading and no torrents were active.

When shaped, Youtube buffers for me, even @ 144p. This is on my 2mb line. Do a turbo charge and it streams happily @ 360p and sometimes @ 720p with minor buffering at the start.
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Strange? @Afriman - would you please help this person :P
 
guys remember not to download the new IOS update through itunes( new one came today) , rather do it from the device , don't want to waste that bandwidth :p
 
Zimsean said:
I'm moving to Gillitts, Durban from outside SA next month and am looking at a 10mbps line from Afrihost or TI. My idea is to go with a higher speed line and use Apple TV instead of DSTV. Am I correct in saying that the general gist of the Afrihost service is this:

During the day the line will be shaped depending on the network load but generally I will get a much lower speed than 10mbps.

Torrents run very slowly during the day.

Everything, including torrents, should run at full speed after about 7pm through the night and I will be able to stream in HD from, for example, Hulu+ in the evenings.

Once I hit a certain (vague) number of GB for the month the line will be increasingly slow for the next 30 days until useage drops. Some posts have mentioned as little as 30GB for this. I'm guessing I'll use 200ish GB per month which would then mean a degraded speed for most of it?
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It really depends on the load on that region. For example the EAST (Durban & KZN) is pretty much unshaped right ow, and has been for a while except for a few occasions. So regardless of your personal usage - we won't shape unless you're a very heavy user.

Your realtime services will never be shaped though, so you don't need to worry about streaming services whether you are shaped or not :)
 
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