Aggressive ADSL pricing from new player

To be honest, I am not interested in cheaper packages for what is effectively butchered 'broadband' - i.e. 1-3Gb.

Let's talk 10Gb... R540 from them and R490 from WebAfrica...
That's NOT cheaper.

As for this:
When Telkom’s new bundle sizes kick in next month – which will increase the size of a 2 GB bundle to 3 GB and bump up a 3 GB bundle to 5 GB – the telecoms provider’s 5 GB bundle at R239.00 will not be easy to beat.
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I have been enjoying 10Gb per month for R490 for some time now... Eish man... R1 per gig cheaper and I would have had to wait ages for it.
 
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oh how did i know that i'm going to get into this thread and read a bunch of negative comments!... LOL! but yea, its pretty pathetic pricing none the less!
 
Garyvdh said:
This is great news! Keep it up! Every price reduction helps. It's little trickles like these that eventually cause the dam to collapse! Don't worry guys, this is just the start! More to come... much more!
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I've been enjoying your positivity! ;)
 
Lol@labanimal

I leave the positive stuff for the real world - the negative stuff can stay in here IMO :D
 
Small steps soon turn into giant strides.

Or a small pebble will start a huge avalanche.

You have learnt much, young Skywalker, but you are not an Yedi yet... whoops, wrong channel :D
 
Hmmmmm interesting to see them fighting it out. There margins must be pretty tight if thye can only shave it a couple of bob.

Thanks for the article Staff Writer. :D
 
Can we make a new rule, please? Do not use the word "aggressive" when it comes to pricing if the price cut isn't at least 50%.
 
davemc said:
Hmmm ....
Interesting point there.
Are "FNB Connect" reselling "GConnect" at a slightly raised price?
:D :cool:
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I think FNB Connect launched about two months before GConnect...

Also, FNB Connect has their own IP Connect bandwidth, so I think they're pretty much doing their own thing...
 
smokey said:
Meh - I really don't mind the prices... just increase the caps at least 3-fold. I mean it can't be that difficult you prats.
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Cut the prices to internation norms and you can buy 3 fold the bandwidth? Isn't that were we want to be?
 
haha, I love how you guys all complain and criticise, and yet the majority of you are still with Telkom. What you fail to realise is that prices will not come down when you are all still supporting the incumbent monopoly. If you want to force prices down, support the little guys and the new guys like Afrihost. They don't have much of a chance when 90% of internet subscribers in South Africa are all supporting the giant. Simple economics. So don't criticise them when all they can offer is a R2.00 decrease. At least they are trying, what are you doing?

Having said that though, I am 90-91% convinced that Telkom is still going to give us a nice surprise before the end of the year! I'm willing to bet good money on it! ;)
 
I'm not too concerned about the per mb prices. My main complaint is the line rental charge that makes up the bulk of the bill.
 
BrendanD said:
I'm not too concerned about the per mb prices. My main complaint is the line rental charge that makes up the bulk of the bill.
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Unfortunately not much is going to happen to that charge until LLU is completed in 2028. That much I am pessimistic about. :(

It is more likely that you will have fibre to the home than that Telkom will reduce or do away with the line rental charges.
 
I think it's great that ISPs are trying to be competitive in this market. I don't care if they only give me 50c off, it's the principle behind it.

We all know Telkom sets the prices in this market and it's really difficult to find gaps where these guys can compete but they do and it's good news for us.

Bottom line is that we can't have international norms apply in SA just yet (for a variety of reasons we've discussed ad nauseum) but it's good to see that there is still a competitive spirit alive and well in the telecoms sector even though govt has tried to 'liberalize' it to hell and back :D
 
I think a few things are of value here:

Another ISP decided to enter the ADSL market, and one of their value propositions is competition on price.

Afrihost if using Internet Solutions and not Telkom/SAIX as an upstream provider, which means that it creates more competition in the wholesale market. This has already resulted in wholesale price reductions to ISPs, and it will continue in future.

I assume these facts are taken into account by the critics out there. What I am amazed at is that people ask for competition and lower prices, and when it happens they just criticize.

I am sure you want an uncapped 1 Gbps fibre connection to your home tomorrow at less than R 200 per month, but Afrihost, Web Africa or Axxess are not in a position to give you that connection. So it may well be worthwhile to understand where they fit in and comment on their position in the market and how they drive competition and price reductions…
 
Well said, rpm and Cara.

South Africans just love to gripe and moan, and yet they have no idea whatsoever about how to institute consumer action or support the right people. :)

They just go right ahead and support the very people who have been overcharging them all these years.

What do you think Telkom would do if 50% of the ADSL subscribers switched over to Afrihost tomorrow? Then you would see some action on their part.

But until consumers are willing to become more aggressive, they will not see much action in this market.

Come on people. Get off your lazy butts and start supporting the right players. You want change, you gotta make the change.
 
rpm said:
I assume these facts are taken into account by the critics out there. What I am amazed at is that people ask for competition and lower prices, and when it happens they just criticize.
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If the local loop can be unbundled, thereby taking Telkom's monopoly away, then things will be all the better.

But, for now, the best thing to do here is to have more people on a month-to-month contract instead of a 24-month contract, and switch over to cheaper providers as soon as they come out.

R2 isn't much, but consider this - if 1000 people all switch over to a cheaper provider, the more expensive ones will have to take note and lower their prices in order to retain their customers. Keep in mind that there is a global recession on, and ISP's are feeling the pinch as well.

Also, last but not least, telkominternet must be physically separated from telkom - as telkominternet have an unfair advantage over the other ISP's by getting their bandwidth for cheaper from telkom and thereby undercutting the competition.
 
Garyvdh said:
But until consumers are willing to become more aggressive, they will not see much action in this market.

Come on people. Get off your lazy butts and start supporting the right players. You want change, you gotta make the change.
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Agreed with you there.

People have to get more aggressive and start demanding lower prices. Or cancel their expensive contracts for lower-priced ones, and let those expensive ISP's exactly know why they've cancelled their contracts.

Otherwise things will remain the same.

But as I know the SA consumer, nothing will get done. :rolleyes:
 
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