All things Sunsynk (Deye, Inge, etc...)

Today is one of those crappy days and I've changed to allow grid to charge and soc from 30% to 100%. I have loadshedding at 10 and solar is looking weak today.

The only setting to make your life easiest is grid charge all the time and 100%. You won't save money but you will protect yourself the most and not have to worry about changing anything going forward
I feel like during stage 6, for me personally, battery should be kept full at all costs.

Agree though that this does depend on your system and how many batteries you have
 
Even if i had 1000 panels today it'll do nothing. I need rain panels. :cool:
Paranoia is a bitt less after i told myself i'll be eskom dependent untill i have more batteries.
So here is me today, usually fully charged by 09H15 or so. A bit of cloud, but I went ahead regardless, still had breakfast and made hot water. Batteries descended to 45%. Now I am at 83%, no worries.

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DEYE users.
How would I tell the inverter to only charge up to 90% ?
What would the recommended settings be for charging combined 424 AH battery capacity - what should the charging, discharging be at
 
DEYE users.
How would I tell the inverter to only charge up to 90% ?
What would the recommended settings be for charging combined 424 AH battery capacity - what should the charging, discharging be at
If lithium battery, connect the can cable and let the inverter and battery sort themselves out. If LA you're going to have to give a lot more detail, or just ditch the LA and get lithium.

If you set the SoC at 90% on the system work mode screen it'll charge up to 90% from the grid.
 
Today is one of those crappy days and I've changed to allow grid to charge and soc from 30% to 100%. I have loadshedding at 10 and solar is looking weak today.

The only setting to make your life easiest is grid charge all the time and 100%. You won't save money but you will protect yourself the most and not have to worry about changing anything going forward

This is one of those moments (and days) where SolarAssistant and HomeAssistant works magic.

I have MQTT bridge connections between my SolarAssistant and HomeAssistant, and this allows the inverter settings to be changed (via SolarAssistant) from HomeAssistant.

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Then, I have some automations on my HomeAssistant side, that uses the "minutes until loadshedding" (90 minutes) as a trigger. I use https://github.com/wernerhp/ha.integration.load_shedding/ and eskomsepush free API to retrieve the "minutes until loadshedding" for my area in HomeAssistant.

I then have some conditions on the trigger, that checks the battery levels, and if the batteries are quite low (such as today with poor Solar generation), then I turn the Sunsynk into what I call "vampire" mode.

Using MQTT from HA to SA, the automation changes the work mode settings of the Sunsynk to "Charge below 90%" for all the hours of the day.

This basically forces the Sunsynk to vampire from Eskom, until a few minutes before loadshedding, when I revert the work mode settings back to my regular configuration for Solar during the day, and battery at night.

This removes all the fretting about pending load shedding, during a poor solar generation day.
 
If lithium battery, connect the can cable and let the inverter and battery sort themselves out. If LA you're going to have to give a lot more detail, or just ditch the LA and get lithium.

If you set the SoC at 90% on the system work mode screen it'll charge up to 90% from the grid.
Lithium SMD batteries all the way
Hmmm.. my understanding of SOC (as explained by installer... ) was "thats how low it will be allowed to go" ??
 
Lithium SMD batteries all the way
Hmmm.. my understanding of SOC (as explained by installer... ) was "thats how low it will be allowed to go" ??
On the system work mode screen you set how low it will go (or up to where it will charge) when there is grid present. On the battery setting page you set how low it will go when using battery.
 
Lithium SMD batteries all the way
Hmmm.. my understanding of SOC (as explained by installer... ) was "thats how low it will be allowed to go" ??
SMD = Solar MD? Do you have the can bus (cat5 cable) connection between battery and inverter?
 
DEYE users.
How would I tell the inverter to only charge up to 90% ?
You can set 90% in the work mode screen, for any of the timeslots. Bear in mind that you can only control charge from grid or genny. If you have solar panels, the system will use solar power to charge past 90%.
What would the recommended settings be for charging combined 424 AH battery capacity - what should the charging, discharging be at
Charging and discharging on a lithium battery is largely dictated by the battery and its BMS. You can set the Deye inverter not to exceed these charge / discharge limits. What is your battery make and model, and can you provide its specifications?
 
This is one of those moments (and days) where SolarAssistant and HomeAssistant works magic.

I have MQTT bridge connections between my SolarAssistant and HomeAssistant, and this allows the inverter settings to be changed (via SolarAssistant) from HomeAssistant.

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Then, I have some automations on my HomeAssistant side, that uses the "minutes until loadshedding" (90 minutes) as a trigger. I use https://github.com/wernerhp/ha.integration.load_shedding/ and eskomsepush free API to retrieve the "minutes until loadshedding" for my area in HomeAssistant.

I then have some conditions on the trigger, that checks the battery levels, and if the batteries are quite low (such as today with poor Solar generation), then I turn the Sunsynk into what I call "vampire" mode.

Using MQTT from HA to SA, the automation changes the work mode settings of the Sunsynk to "Charge below 90%" for all the hours of the day.

This basically forces the Sunsynk to vampire from Eskom, until a few minutes before loadshedding, when I revert the work mode settings back to my regular configuration for Solar during the day, and battery at night.

This removes all the fretting about pending load shedding, during a poor solar generation day.
Are you able to share your yaml for the automation?
 
You can set 90% in the work mode screen, for any of the timeslots. Bear in mind that you can only control charge from grid or genny. If you have solar panels, the system will use solar power to charge past 90%.

Charging and discharging on a lithium battery is largely dictated by the battery and its BMS. You can set the Deye inverter not to exceed these charge / discharge limits. What is your battery make and model, and can you provide its specifications?
1x Solar MD 7.4 Kwh SMD4074
1x Solar MD 14.3Kwh SS4143
1x Deye 12KvA (3Phase)

Getting 15x JinkoSolar 550w panels being installed Tomorrow
 
1x Solar MD 7.4 Kwh SMD4074
1x Solar MD 14.3Kwh SS4143
1x Deye 12KvA (3Phase)

Getting 15x JinkoSolar 550w panels being installed Tomorrow
How are the two batteries connected? Using a busbar? Do they come with documentation? What does the battery manufacturer recommend (charge / discharge) when they are connected this way?
I don't see the Deye manual state that it is supported, but may have a dated version. Does the battery support comms with the Deye?

If you are using comms, you will get a screen like this:
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You can then set it here:
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1x Solar MD 7.4 Kwh SMD4074
1x Solar MD 14.3Kwh SS4143
1x Deye 12KvA (3Phase)

Getting 15x JinkoSolar 550w panels being installed Tomorrow
Hmm interesting. My understanding is that you need to parallel the same battery type and capacity... I wonder if the Solar MD Logger v2 can manage a combination of different Solar MD products:
 
Hmm interesting. My understanding is that you need to parallel the same battery type and capacity... I wonder if the Solar MD Logger v2 can manage a combination of different Solar MD products:
I've had the 7.4kwh version for a year now. Initially comms was only supported through the logger, but the most recent update enables direct comms with my sunsynk ( so assuming similar with deye). Also not sure about the wall mount versions - the rack mounted ones eg. Ss202 are paralleled via an internal busbar in the cabinet
 
1x Solar MD 7.4 Kwh SMD4074
1x Solar MD 14.3Kwh SS4143


OK, so considering that it's these, it is possible that the battery's BMS (if customised) can issue a Charge_Disallow when it reaches 90%. You would probably then need to take it into account when filling the capacity field on the inverter's battery screen.
 
You can set 90% in the work mode screen, for any of the timeslots. Bear in mind that you can only control charge from grid or genny. If you have solar panels, the system will use solar power to charge past 90%.
Does that mean that any timeslots where you don't tick Grid/Gen are meaningless? Or do that have some purpose?
 
Does that mean that any timeslots where you don't tick Grid/Gen are meaningless? Or do that have some purpose?
Where you don't tick grid/gen the inverter still won't discharge the battery below the value. It won't charge from the grid/gen either though.
 
Does that mean that any timeslots where you don't tick Grid/Gen are meaningless? Or do that have some purpose?
Not meaningless. Depending on the SoC of the battery, the inverter will either use battery to service loads until the desired state is reached, or charge battery (from grid / genny) when grid / genny is ticked. Overriding the last one is excess solar, if it exists, it will charge batteries with it.
 
Ah, so if you say have it set at 30% at night, then it will use the grid below 30% to run the house, but not to charge the battery? (With nothing ticked)
 
Ah, so if you say have it set at 30% at night, then it will use the grid below 30% to run the house, but not to charge the battery?
Correct. The grid tick box is to indicate whether it should use the grid to charge up to the set value. It won't use battery below the set value if there is grid available but if grid becomes unavailable it'll use battery up to the limit set in the battery settings.
 
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