Am I being crazy for declining this offer?

ToxicBunny said:
Please.. they're amateurs..

Enterprise Architect is the way forward.
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But an Enterprise Architect is somebody that sold his soul to the Togaf gods and now draws pictures with lines and stuff :twsited:
 
But the lines and stuff are awesome... and you get to tell ppl what to do.... even the ceo
 
Also be careful of working for banks. If one of the bigwigs in Shanghai or London so much as sneazes then 5000 people get laid off in the provinces.
 
Hamster said:
But an Enterprise Architect is somebody that sold his soul to the Togaf gods and now draws pictures with lines and stuff :twsited:
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That they can only read and understand. Pretty much in the same way programmers write lines that are awesome, but no else understands :)

Kilgore_Trout_Redux said:
Also be careful of working for banks. If one of the bigwigs in Shanghai or London so much as sneazes then 5000 people get laid off in the provinces.
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But Diamond is forever.
 
dyanamo said:
I work for a division of Naspers as a programmer. As a programmer you will be highly valued especially as a senior. I started off as contract and moved to permanent. Its great and have not looked back. As a contractor btw after 3 months you should get the DSTV reduced fee.
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Only true if you didn't work for anyone of those within Naspers: AIA, Kalahari, 5Rooms, Style36, SACamera, Kinderelo
 
My experience. Usually with big corporates like banks they do across the board increases so you can never really increase your salary decently. Even with getting an outstanding review your salary will only increase 8-10%. You need to be somewhat comfortable with your salary before you move into one of these spaces, however if you are and you do get in you know they have the money to pay you.

Personally I wasn't impressed with multichoice, there offices are falling apart and the people were almost working on top of each other.

ABSA is allegedly recruiting through a certain agency. I did the tests etc but there's a huge problem with getting responses from ABSA at the moment about new employment.

When putting yourself on the market, you need to calculate how much you need and then stick to that. By all means send your payslip etc but tell them it's not worth your while to move for less than X but make sure you ask for more than that so there's room for negotiation. OP is probably in the situation she is in because she didn't tell them she's looking for at least X+some.

Being a woman in the programming field generally you should be paid more than your male counterparts, every company I have come across does this. This ties in with the fact that I was clearing 20k with 2 years of experience so if you are good at what you are doing then you should be paid more.

The bitter sweet thing about staying at one job for a while is that it shows loyalty but you always wind up being paid peanuts.
 
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If you get a job programming for Multichoice, please see to the fact that I cannot pay my damn DSTV account online if I am out of the country. Gives an error about IP, etc.

PS: The only way to climb the corporate ladder is to jump ship, and do it often. I'm not going to comment on the offer, 10k a month? :confused:
 
^^vampire^^ said:
My experience. Usually with big corporates like banks they do across the board increases so you can never really increase your salary decently. Even with getting an outstanding review your salary will only increase 8-10%. You need to be somewhat comfortable with your salary before you move into one of these spaces, however if you are and you do get in you know they have the money to pay you.
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Not true in my experience, I work for a bank and my increases over the last 4 years have been 23%, 11%, 19% and 33%.
 
Jehosefat said:
Not true in my experience, I work for a bank and my increases over the last 4 years have been 23%, 11%, 19% and 33%.
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Obviously there are exceptions, but I'm saying in general a lot of bigger companies have a review scorecard with a range of % increases depending on what your score is and generally there is a cap. Yes your superior could motivate for a higher increase but companies do this so the whole review/increase process doesn't become cumbersome and waste company time
 
Velenoso said:
If you get a job programming for Multichoice, please see to the fact that I cannot pay my damn DSTV account online if I am out of the country. Gives an error about IP, etc.

PS: The only way to climb the corporate ladder is to jump ship, and do it often. I'm not going to comment on the offer, 10k a month? :confused:
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Lol, when I went there from the explanation I got it looks like they work on everything except their own site.
 
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