Amcu seeks payment to end strike

The whole point of extortion is to get something through intimidation.

If this was done a few months back, then I would have labelled it as full blown extortion, but now, not so much. With the mine bosses already suffering major losses and finally considering shutting down and moving on (effectively cutting their losses), AMCU and co. have lost their leverage a while ago.

I doubt any of the mine bosses will give in to this, and if they do, they will only be fueling the barrage of strikes in the near future.
 
Just pay the workers according and cut down the salary of high management.

How can someone survive off R4000 or whatever they getting. Food prices go up etc. Many people around here (where I am visiting) have been retrenched due to corporate greed.
 
Just pay the workers according and cut down the salary of high management.

How can someone survive off R4000 or whatever they getting. Food prices go up etc. Many people around here (where I am visiting) have been retrenched due to corporate greed.

Which reality do you live in out of interest.

Do you think cutting higher managements salary will compensate for the ridiculous increase these workers are asking for?
 
They have been demanding their cut for weeks now. The mines said no.

They should be charged with racketeering.
 
Sick of hearing about this childish bull****. Just close the F-ing mines already.
We're going to be dealing with the social/financial fallout of this strike anyway since most of those people will probably never get out of debt now anyway.
 
Was the exact wording in the financial times today.

I'm also labeling this extortion. Close them mines, see what happens then. I'm only wondering why they haven't already since the mines been going on about how unprofitable things have become.

The government withdraws the mining licences and give them to ARM, Sibanye, etc who have small overheads and bring the mines back into profitability and AMCU strikes again.

Arghh, please should stop acting as though platinum has disappeared off the ground, or wil disappear if Anglo sells.
 
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PLATINUM STRIKE ONGOING: WASP

The strike in the platinum mining sector will continue as mining bosses consider a counter proposal by workers, the Workers and Socialist Party (Wasp) said on Wednesday.

"The Amcu-led strike in the platinum mines is still going on, despite last week's expectations of an imminent settlement," Wasp deputy general secretary Liv Shange said in a statement.

"The initial reaction has been to repeat the claims that the workers' demands are 'unaffordable' and 'unrealistic', which still ring as hollow as they did in January -- the major mines made average profits of R39 billion in 2011, for example, and have enjoyed profit margins ten times the average on [the] JSE over the past 13 years."

Shange said mass meetings had been held across the mining shafts in Rustenburg in the North West and Thabazimbi in Limpopo over the past few days where workers formulated conditions they wanted met before the strike was called off.

She said the conditions had been presented to the employers, and workers were waiting for them to respond.

However, trade union Solidarity said the demands of the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu) remained unreasonable and it called for the strike to end.

Solidarity general secretary Gideon du Plessis called on Amcu to "abandon its latest wish-list" and to accept the offer.

"Amcu's latest demands border on negotiating in bad faith, as the union keeps shifting the goal posts. Amcu's members, as well as the innocent non-striking workers, have already paid a high price for the paralysing strike," he said in a statement.

"The retrenchments that will result from the strike will lead to a great deal more suffering and disruption."

Du Plessis said the demands bordered on defeating the ends of justice because Amcu was demanding that criminal charges laid against its striking members be withdrawn.

He said the right to strike did not imply the right to commit violence and intimidate people.

"We appeal to Amcu to end its path of destruction and to accept the offer that is now on the table," he said.

"We also appeal to the employers to continue with legal action in connection with any strike-related offences, thereby ensuring that unacceptable behaviour is not simply excused."

Amcu was not immediately available to comment.

Amcu members at Impala Platinum (Implats), Anglo American Platinum (Amplats), and Lonmin went on strike on January 23 demanding a basic monthly salary of R12,500.

The platinum producers have proposed to increase the salary of the lowest paid workers by R1000 for two years and R950 in the third year. This excluded other benefits.

The salaries of officials, artisans, and miners would increase by eight percent in the first year and by 7.5 percent for the remaining two years.

The proposed settlement was for three years.

Living out allowances would not be increased for the duration of the settlement. Pension fund contributions, overtime, holiday leave, and shift allowances would be increased annually based on the consumer price index (CPI).

The companies also agreed to pay workers back pay within seven working days of them returning to work. The back pay was for the period prior to the strike.

On Wednesday, Anglo American Platinum (Amplats) said it would meet Amcu later as employers and the union sought an end to the ongoing platinum strike.

"Amplats will be meeting with Amcu this afternoon, and in meeting Amcu we remain optimistic that we are working towards a resolution towards ending the strike," spokeswoman Mpumi Sithole said earlier.

Impala Platinum (Implats) spokesman Johan Theron said the company had received a formal response from Amcu on the latest wage offer.

Lonmin Platinum spokeswoman Sue Vey said Lonmin's position mirrored that of Implats.


Source : Sapa /dm/aw/tk/jk/jje
Date : 18 Jun 2014 14:29
 
The faster these companies sell their mining operations in this country the better. Let whoever takes it over and burn it down to the ground. Unfortunately, miners will eventually get just what they have been asking for.
 
WTH? This is bribery, just plain and simple. Lonmin should file criminal charges.

This is common practice. Guessed it would be coming. Doesn't change that this is extortion. Plain and simple.
 
The companies also agreed to pay workers back pay within seven working days of them returning to work. The back pay was for the period prior to the strike.
Could someone explain this?
 
The government withdraws the mining licences and give them to ARM, Sibanye, etc who have small overheads and bring the mines back into profitability and AMCU strikes again.

Arghh, please should stop acting as though platinum has disappeared off the ground, or wil disappear if Anglo sells.
If the government revokes mining licences properly awarded it is going to face a heap of pain on the sovereign debt front - nationalizing assets without delivery of equivalent value triggers a pile of bilateral investment agreements
The ANC will have to wait at least 6 years before their strategy of "protecting investment" is fully in place
 
Could someone explain this?

The workers haven't been paid for a few days that is due to them prior to them going on strike.

Or the increase is backdated to a certain date in the past.
 
Food prices go up and everybody is affected. I'd like to think of myself as middle class, and hells, I'm bloody well affected when food, petrol and electricity prices increase.

From a principle perspective:
What happens when you cut down the salary of top management? They leave for greener pastures and inexperienced, lesser qualified monkeys** fill those positions, that could potentially mismanage the business or decrease productivity, which is going to affect the bottom line in any case.

You don't take the money away from a foreman/builder because the bricklayer or cement mixer wants an increase. Do you want a structurally sound house or do you want skew walls built on an unset foundation?

Whether they receive exorbitant salaries is a different story and comes back to mismanagement from the top and from the shareholders.

I've sen it happen in the financial sector, and it had some damaging effects.

**You pay peanuts...you get monkeys.
 
AMCU HAS ADDITIONAL DEMANDS: PRODUCERS

Trade union Amcu has made additional demands in letters sent to platinum producers following an in-principle agreement aimed at ending the five-month-old strike in the sector, the companies said on Wednesday.

"The letters raise various procedural issues, such as the time frame of proposed agreements, which the companies are willing to discuss with the union leadership," spokeswoman for the producers Charmane Russell said in a statement.

"Regrettably, however, the letters also contain new and additional demands which, if granted, would mean huge additional costs -- of around R1 billion in aggregate -- to the companies, beyond the increases contained in the 'in principle' agreements."

She said the platinum producers were unable to afford the additional wage demands.

Mass meetings had been held across the mining shafts in the North West and in Limpopo over the past few days where workers formulated conditions they wanted met before the strike was called off.

Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu) members at Impala Platinum (Implats), Anglo American Platinum (Amplats), and Lonmin went on strike on January 23 demanding a basic monthly salary of R12,500.

The platinum producers have proposed to increase the salary of the lowest-paid workers by R1000 for two years and R950 in the third year. This excluded other benefits.

The salaries of officials, artisans, and miners would increase by eight percent in the first year and by 7.5 percent for the remaining two years. The proposed settlement was for three years.

Living out allowances would not be increased for the duration of the settlement. Pension fund contributions, overtime, holiday leave, and shift allowances would be increased annually based on the consumer price index (CPI).

The companies also agreed to pay workers back pay within seven working days of them returning to work. The back pay was for the period prior to the strike.

Earlier on Wednesday, the Workers and Socialist Party (Wasp) said the strike in the platinum mining sector would continue as mining bosses considered a counter proposal by workers.

Russell said engagement with Amcu on its latest demand was ongoing.

"The goal remains a sustainable solution beneficial to all stakeholders.

"To date the companies have forfeited earnings of around R23.1 billion, while employees have forfeited earnings of some R10.3 billion," she said.


Source : Sapa /gq/jk/lp/ks
Date : 18 Jun 2014 16:24
 
You cannot negotiate with these people in good faith. Even if the strike ends now with a multiple year agreement, next year there will be new demands. Mining is dead in SA's future.
 
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