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ANC getting nervous over Malema
2010-04-06 22:32

Cape Town - There is increasing unease within the ruling alliance regarding Julius Malema's divisive influence on the country's politics and relations between black and white.

However, nobody - including ministers, senior alliance leaders and MPs - is prepared to be quoted openly and directly about their fears.

This is becoming increasingly clear, as seen in the ANC Youth League leader's recent controversial utterances and the rising political temperature in the aftermath of AWB leader Eugene Terre'Blanche's murder.

"He (Malema) thinks he's untouchable and he behaves that way. The problem is that there's a large group of unemployed, disillusioned youth who relate to his populist statements and melodrama," a senior alliance member said on condition of anonymity.

Mantashe to meet with Malema

ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe was planning to meet with Malema on Tuesday about his visit to Zimbabwe, his speeches and his singing of the words "shoot the boer".

He said in a radio interview that these issues would also soon be discussed at a meeting of the national executive council (NEC) of the ANC.

Mantashe could not be reached for comment.

DA leader Helen Zille on Tuesday bemoaned the fact that "good, moderate ANC people" don't have the courage to openly take a principled stand against Malema.

Zille feels that the result is that the youth leader is leading the ANC and South Africa by the nose.

Over the past few weeks many senior ANC figures have expressed their utter dismay at the youth leader's public taunting of authority, party structures, reprimands and party culture.

However, this was expressed on condition of anonymity, without exception.

Runs to Zuma

A source with direct access to Zuma said that Malema often uses his influence with the president when the ANCYL leader finds himself facing internal pressure.

"If the NEC is meeting and he knows he's in trouble, he calls Zuma to explain his side of the story and in so doing takes the sting out of any reprimand."

Another senior alliance member said the ANC is making a mistake by supporting the controversial "shoot the boer" slogan. This person, too, would not be quoted on record, saying "people should understand that it's difficult for us (to speak out)".

According to him, "everyone" - from the party leadership to the media and Malema's supporters - has a share in turning him into the "cult figure" he has become.

- Die Burger
 
No, they are just telling you what you wan't to hear before they kill you and nationalise your property so you don't put up a fight :D

Seriously, they might be able to silence him for a short while but it wont last.

Why is it so difficult for these people to speak out in a country with a constitution (for now) that grants you freedom of speech? If this is the general train of thought within the anc then how are the majority scared of the minority?
 
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Big daddy JZ is protecting him. Mantashe won't stand up to him because he knows that if he tries anything funny, Malema will install Fikile in his position. It's powerplay.
 
Hulle is almal bangbroeke en bewys dat alles het te doen met krag vir hulleself en niks te doen het met die land regeer vir almal nie ek haat hulle soos pes hulle vat almal vir a grap maar die meeste mense het hulle kop in hulle gatte en sien nie hoe dinge erger word nie
 
Hulle is almal bangbroeke en bewys dat alles het te doen met krag vir hulleself en niks te doen het met die land regeer vir almal nie ek haat hulle soos pes hulle vat almal vir a grap maar die meeste mense het hulle kop in hulle gatte en sien nie hoe dinge erger word nie

I agree
 
no, sepp called jz and told him to get his house in order because swc sponsors were starting to get uneasy.
and that means that certain special government people won't get their special fifa gifts if they don't pull finger.
or is that too cynical?
 
ANC getting some sene? PTII

http://www.news24.com/Content/South...06-04-2010-11-55/Zuma,_Mantashe_muzzle_Malema

Cape Town - Julius Malema is no longer allowed to sing the words "shoot the boer" in a controversial struggle song, the ANC said on Tuesday.

He is also not allowed to make any statements about murder victim Eugene Terre'Blanche or do anything provocative.

Gwede Mantashe, secretary-general of the ANC, confirmed to Beeld on Tuesday night that he and President Jacob Zuma met with the ANC youth league leader.

"I've just come from Ma¬hlambandlopfu (Zuma's official residence in Pretoria), where I told Malema to refrain from making inflammatory statements. He is also not allowed to sing the song ("Ayesab' amagwala") in its entirety," said Mantashe.

"There will be very clear outcomes regarding Malema after our conversation with him. People will be able to see the result. The ANC and the youth league will restrain him."

He said if singing the words "shoot the boer" is leading to polarisation in society, the ANC will put a stop to it.

However, only the ANC can make such a decision and only after internal discussions, "because it is we as the ruling party who are leading society".

"However, we are convinced that a political solution, as opposed to a legal one, will provide a holistic solution.

"I'm no protector of Malema, but the irritation he causes and the problem... needs to be isolated and solved," said Mantashe.
 
Big business in SA has the most to lose, why don't the top 500 companies get together and put pressure on the senior ANC leadership to remove Juliaas?
 
Surely the executive mangement of all 500 top South African companies can't all be Malema lovers?
 
http://www.news24.com/Content/South...04-2010-10-32/ANC_getting_nervous_over_Malema

ANC getting nervous over Malema
2010-04-06 22:32

Cape Town - There is increasing unease within the ruling alliance regarding Julius Malema's divisive influence on the country's politics and relations between black and white.

However, nobody - including ministers, senior alliance leaders and MPs - is prepared to be quoted openly and directly about their fears.

This is becoming increasingly clear, as seen in the ANC Youth League leader's recent controversial utterances and the rising political temperature in the aftermath of AWB leader Eugene Terre'Blanche's murder.

"He (Malema) thinks he's untouchable and he behaves that way. The problem is that there's a large group of unemployed, disillusioned youth who relate to his populist statements and melodrama," a senior alliance member said on condition of anonymity.

Mantashe to meet with Malema

ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe was planning to meet with Malema on Tuesday about his visit to Zimbabwe, his speeches and his singing of the words "shoot the boer".

He said in a radio interview that these issues would also soon be discussed at a meeting of the national executive council (NEC) of the ANC.

Mantashe could not be reached for comment.

DA leader Helen Zille on Tuesday bemoaned the fact that "good, moderate ANC people" don't have the courage to openly take a principled stand against Malema.

Zille feels that the result is that the youth leader is leading the ANC and South Africa by the nose.

Over the past few weeks many senior ANC figures have expressed their utter dismay at the youth leader's public taunting of authority, party structures, reprimands and party culture.

However, this was expressed on condition of anonymity, without exception.

Runs to Zuma

A source with direct access to Zuma said that Malema often uses his influence with the president when the ANCYL leader finds himself facing internal pressure.

"If the NEC is meeting and he knows he's in trouble, he calls Zuma to explain his side of the story and in so doing takes the sting out of any reprimand."

Another senior alliance member said the ANC is making a mistake by supporting the controversial "shoot the boer" slogan. This person, too, would not be quoted on record, saying "people should understand that it's difficult for us (to speak out)".

According to him, "everyone" - from the party leadership to the media and Malema's supporters - has a share in turning him into the "cult figure" he has become.

- Die Burger

No one wants to be quoted because freedom of speech and opinion are "unafrican".
 
"However, we are convinced that a political solution, as opposed to a legal one, will provide a holistic solution.

So are they saying that the ANC is above the law? Courts cannot rule on matters, the ANC must?

Oh well.
 
Cape Town - Julius Malema is no longer allowed to sing the words "shoot the boer" in a controversial struggle song, the ANC said on Tuesday.

He is also not allowed to do anything provocative.

" I told Malema to refrain from making inflammatory statements. He is also not allowed to sing the song"

"There will be very clear outcomes regarding Malema after our conversation with him. People will be able to see the result. The ANC and the youth league will restrain him."

... I'll requote a post of mine from another thread....

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why does every bloody man and his dog feel the need to start their own thread on this topic?!?!



It's very likely that the sinking feeling you are getting is not as a result of things that have happened but rather the stupid, inciting, sensationalist crap spewed out by some forum members!

You can take the negative view that Eugene's death will result in civil war. Or for a change you could try the positive view which says that his death may just be the catalyst that gets the ANC to wake up, muzzle Malema and his cronies before they do more damage, and put an end to these farm killings.

Of course some people just find it easier to accept the negative path!
 
Gwede Mantashe, secretary-general of the ANC, confirmed to Beeld on Tuesday night that he and President Jacob Zuma met with the ANC youth league leader.

Met with him? I thought he was in Zim?
Or did they speak with him over the phone?

And, he will sing it anyways. And I see nothing about the land grabs - can he continue to say that?
The ANC are just running scared now, this has nothing to do with right and wrong - and everything to do with trying to save tourism over the next 3 months.
 
The ANC has silenced him now to look good, why, because the courts already silenced him, but they were going to try take it all the way to the constitutional court. Now with ET dead, the chances are that even the Constitutional Court would rule against the singing of the words ... so instead of fighting it and looking like a bunch of chops, they are saying we are silencing Malema (even thought it's already been done).

It's the same like when the ANC says look how we are driving down internet costs, etc ... when it is the market players and the ANC had basically no actual involvement.
 
The ANC has silenced him now to look good, why, because the courts already silenced him, but they were going to try take it all the way to the constitutional court. Now with ET dead, the chances are that even the Constitutional Court would rule against the singing of the words ... so instead of fighting it and looking like a bunch of chops, they are saying we are silencing Malema (even thought it's already been done).

It's the same like when the ANC says look how we are driving down internet costs, etc ... when it is the market players and the ANC had basically no actual involvement.

It remains to be seen whether they have silenced him or not. I still see him doing it anyways.
 
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