ANC or nothing

[vantage]

who is Moulder?...

Its a shame Andries Pretorius didn't have a machine-gun at bloed-Rivier...

the fact is the ANC won't ever be outvoted, simply because the idiots who vote for them breed at a rate that the educated just can't keep up with. The sad truth is that this country is getting more stupid by every passing day.

Heard it all before Verwoed . Come up with better stuff .

 

[Morgoth]

Heard it all before Verwoed . Come up with better stuff .

who had what?

as far as History goes, your "chief" Tshwane was nothing more then some person who pissed against a tree (apparently), so much for making up history if you don't have any to be proud of

and who is Verwoed?

 

[vantage]

hahah like you have history to be proud of . I cant stop laughing .

 

[I am Penguin]

and who is Verwoed?

He was the guy the tried to keep guys like Its'sebe at bay and did it the wrong way. The wrong guys suffered for it. The plan did not work, prove is that all the It'sebe's is still on the loose! He should have done it differently IMHO.

 

[vantage]

He was the guy the tried to keep guys like Its'sebe at bay and did it the wrong way. The plan did not work as It'sebe's is still on the loose! He should have done it differently IMHO.

You forgot to add that he came from Holland and then went to live in Zimbabwe . He was promoted quickly in the NP due to his cruelty , some said he was talented . He would later on be laid out by his own kind . Later in history we will learn that he became a heroe for menguins and other outcasts in modern day society .

 

[I am Penguin]

You forgot to add that he came from Holland and then went to live in Zimbabwe . He was promoted quickly in the NP due to his cruelty , some said he was talented . He would later on be laid out by his own kind . Later in history we will learn that he became a heroe for menguins and other outcasts in modern day society .

You mean he was worse than Mbeki/ Zuma and his ANC comrades that killed how many with their AIDS denial? Still killing how many by stealing public funds for private use and let millions in the country suffer without decent health care, food and jobs? If I were Zuma I would hate and be ashamed to have followers like You, that's why Africa is dying and sliding deeper in the Abyss, due to the typical It'sebe mentality!

 

[Morgoth]

You forgot to add that he came from Holland and then went to live in Zimbabwe . He was promoted quickly in the NP due to his cruelty , some said he was talented . He would later on be laid out by his own kind . Later in history we will learn that he became a heroe for menguins and other outcasts in modern day society .

o you are talking about VerwoeRd

 

[vantage]

You mean he was worse than Mbeki/ Zuma and his ANC comrades that killed how many with their AIDS denial? Still killing how many by stealing public funds for private use and let millions in the country suffer without decent health care, food and jobs? If I were Zuma I would hate and be ashamed to have followers like You, that's why Africa is dying and sliding deeper in the Abyss, die to the It'sebe mentality!

Thats the thing , its our africa . On the other hand you are not african to tell us anything , you are children of settlers and pillagers . Why then if our continent is full of demise and defeat you stay in it and cause more mayhem ? Is it because you do not know your roots . We didnt cordially invite anyone onto our soils we only made the mistake of not minding you around . Only for you to drive the dagger right into our backs .

 

[Morgoth]

hahah like you have history to be proud of . I cant stop laughing .

yup dam proud of it, we build a society up in less then a century,did more then any other African ethnic group can say

You forgot to add that he came from Holland and then went to live in Zimbabwe . He was promoted quickly in the NP due to his cruelty , some said he was talented . He would later on be laid out by his own kind . Later in history we will learn that he became a heroe for menguins and other outcasts in modern day society .

erm no, he was promoted in the NP due to his inteligence (the man was in the top5 in SA when he wrote matric)I believe he got all his degrees at Cum Lauder Level.....more then anyone in the ANC can say..... all they are renounced for is their jail time.

 

[Morgoth]

Thats the thing , its our africa . On the other hand you are not african to tell us anything , you are children of settlers and pillagers . Why then if our continent is full of demise and defeat you stay in it and cause more mayhem ? Is it because you do not know your roots . We didnt cordially invite anyone onto our soils we only made the mistake of not minding you around . Only for you to drive the dagger right into our backs .

The soil didn't belong to you either, heh you weren't exactly this peace loving nation, reference: see Shaka, Dingaan, Moesjec, African slave trade, Angola........
modern day reference : see any african state...

and no we didn't drive a dagger into your backs, I am very sure you know where you stood with us

 

[HapticSimian]

Thats the thing , its our africa . On the other hand you are not african to tell us anything , you are children of settlers and pillagers . Why then if our continent is full of demise and defeat you stay in it and cause more mayhem ? Is it because you do not know your roots . We didnt cordially invite anyone onto our soils we only made the mistake of not minding you around . Only for you to drive the dagger right into our backs .

You might want to go cast an eye over the accepted model of how different peoples came to end up together at the southern tip of Africa. This is no less my country than it is yours. I do find it unsurprising that you are so keen to oust the White Man and let SA sink to become just as much of a quagmire as what the rest of Africa is. The African way - if it ain't broke, break it.

 

[Fuma]

This thread is EPIC. It makes me laugh.

Africa this, Africa that. This sounds like a woman complaining about her abusive husband. Surely getting out of that situation is better? Or is it impossible?

 

[vantage]

You might want to go cast an eye over the accepted model of how different peoples came to end up together at the southern tip of Africa. This is no less my country than it is yours. I do find it unsurprising that you are so keen to oust the White Man and let SA sink to become just as much of a quagmire as what the rest of Africa is. The African way - if it ain't broke, break it.

when did I say you not part of the country . You are not a native of the soil of africa . Nobody wants to drive the white person out , maybe at the back of your mind you are thinking about the atrocities that your forefathers commited . All we want is a bit of fairness in means of production . If that can be achieved I can throw away my ANC card no problem .

 

[I am Penguin]

Thats the thing , its our africa . On the other hand you are not african to tell us anything , you are children of settlers and pillagers . Why then if our continent is full of demise and defeat you stay in it and cause more mayhem ? Is it because you do not know your roots . We didnt cordially invite anyone onto our soils we only made the mistake of not minding you around . Only for you to drive the dagger right into our backs .

Settlers and pillagers?? The problem with idiots like It'sebe is that they cannot even count or read effectively. As most know the "tribes" It'sebe claims are the owners of this land actually comes from the North. They came here just prior and at the same time just before the Settlers arrived, They murdered, plundered, raped and killed the locals to take what they had as they came from the North after where they like a swarm of parasites killed and devoured everything in sight. That's the real facts. So maybe all the It'sebes out there want to do a gene count and see if you are really part of the true indigenous and kind people that once lived in the land.

That Moron disease is rife in all the It'sebes out there it seems.

 

[Vrotappel]

Thats the thing , its our africa . On the other hand you are not african to tell us anything , you are children of settlers and pillagers . Why then if our continent is full of demise and defeat you stay in it and cause more mayhem ? Is it because you do not know your roots . We didnt cordially invite anyone onto our soils we only made the mistake of not minding you around . Only for you to drive the dagger right into our backs .

Hopefully the above utterances are not the official position of the ANC. Careful your true colors are showing.

 

[vantage]

Settlers and pillagers?? The problem with idiots like It'sebe is that they cannot even count or read effectively. As most know the "tribes" It'sebe claims are the owners of this land actually comes from the North. They came here just prior and at the same time just before the Settlers arrived and murdered, plundered, raped and killed the locals to take what they had as they came from the North after they like a swarm of parasites killed and devouring everything in sight. That's the real facts. So maybe you want to do a gene count and see if you are really part of the true indigenous and kind people that once lived in the land.

That Moron disease is rife in all the It'sebes out there it seems.

Aparthied history is bloating your brain youngster . We lived in harmony and sometimes we had a few fisticuffs and a few spears were chucked but at the end of the day it was all good . At 1st van ribheki came , he was n`t a bad guy . its unfortunate the crowd that he told about the beauties of Africa was out of control . Soon as they got off van ribheki`s boats it was a free for all . Women being raped , people being cursed at , people being shot at, you name it .

 

[HapticSimian]

when did I say you not part of the country .

Whether you explicitly said as much or not is moot - your implications are quite clear.

You are not a native of the soil of africa .

Really? I was born here. So were my parents. As were their parents, and their parents' parents for that matter. How many generations does it take? 5? 10? Do you need a dark skin to be a 'native of Africa'? Pull the other one...

Nobody wants to drive the white person out

Go tell that to your hero Malema, and the rest of his ilk. It's all good when we can stand, hands cupped, waiting for our next handout at the traffic lights. But in the back room we're dreaming of how lovely Africa would be without 'Europeans', isn't it?

maybe at the back of your mind you are thinking about the atrocities that your forefathers commited .

Nope. That's one of the cool things about us pale skins - we don't dwell in the past. You should try it sometime.

All we want is a bit of fairness in means of production . If that can be achieved I can throw away my ANC card no problem .

What I see daily isn't a quest for fairness - it's the proverbial finger being offered, and hand being grabbed. "WE DEMAND". Along with a sense of entitlement that I am utterly at a loss to figure out how you came to. If only what you say could be taken to heart, isede, but as mentioned that ain't what I'm seeing.

 

[I am Penguin]

Aparthied history is bloating your brain youngster . We lived in harmony and sometimes we had a few fisticuffs and a few spears were chucked but at the end of the day it was all good . At 1st van ribheki came , he was n`t a bad guy . its unfortunate the crowd that he told about the beauties of Africa was out of control . Soon as they got off van ribheki`s boats it was a free for all . Women being raped , people being cursed at , people being shot at, you name it .

These It'sebes are real sad sick fsuckers, ain't they! Surely Mallema incarnates to say the least, Same low stock and quality, same dilapidated mindset, same lack of intelligence. Must be a gene defect at large. Better call the doctors or rather the "Institute for the brain impaired".

 

[vantage]

Whether you explicitly said as much or not is moot - your implications are quite clear.
Really? I was born here. So were my parents. As were their parents, and their parents' parents for that matter. How many generations does it take? 5? 10? Do you need a dark skin to be a 'native of Africa'? Pull the other one...

Go tell that to your hero Malema, and the rest of his ilk. It's all good when we can stand, hands cupped, waiting for our next handout at the traffic lights. But in the back room we're dreaming of how lovely Africa would be without 'Europeans', isn't it?

Nope. That's one of the cool things about us pale skins - we don't dwell in the past. You should try it sometime.

What I see daily isn't a quest for fairness - it's the proverbial finger being offered, and hand being grabbed. "WE DEMAND". Along with a sense of entitlement I am utterly at a loss to figure out how you came to it. If only what you say could be taken to heart, isede, but as mentioned that ain't what I'm seeing.

The white people built SA infrastructure for many years trying to make it like europe or even better , of which I applaud , thats why I said this part of Africa is for all of us . But dont look at history with a fear of retribution . Let the truth be told I am an africanist but I am no racist , whites did a great job in this country and colonisation was the best thing that happened .
BUT BUT we the consquences were harsh and I think fairness of land would be a good thing .

 

[vantage]

I didnt say aparthied , aparthied people really lost the plot .