R13...
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I think this perception is wrong. The black poor still beholden to the ANC probably feel the same about the DA, an incorrect perception too.
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Point is black people will continue to vote for the anc due to loyalty , fear and racism. Good governance is not on the list of things that is necessary for the running of a country.
That said the people must continue to suffer if they refuse to vote better governance into power.I no longer have any sympathy for them. Anc now focuses on the past. Its the only way for them to continue to cling to power. Instead of nation building they focus on dividing the nation along racial lines. The anc is a disease that will give the sa people what they deserve.
That said the people must continue to suffer if they refuse to vote better governance into power.I no longer have any sympathy for them. Anc now focuses on the past. Its the only way for them to continue to cling to power. Instead of nation building they focus on dividing the nation along racial lines. The anc is a disease that will give the sa people what they deserve.
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kingrob
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LOL! True that, but at the same time extremely sad.
No she doesn't speak any native language fluently my friend. Before a rally or a speaking engagement she probably asks her domestic worker to teach her a few words or phrases. Her pronunciation of those uttered words or phrases are such that I sometimes can't hear what she's saying. Which is actually offensive sometimes. But that's not the point, the point is that the DA must wake up to the reality that there's no way black people will vote for the DA in overwhelming numbers if the DA is still seen as white and if its visible leaders are white and not from poor backgrounds like the majority. I think 'm being realistic here from what I'm obsessive everyday on the ground and in the media, I stand corrected though
R13...
Honorary Master
But that's also true of a lot of white voters... the sort of people who still believe in uhurus and what not. Lots of them here on this board too.
I am not sure what is causing white people to believe this, at least with black people I know why some of them still equate white with evil oppression.
DreamKing
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killadoob
Honorary Master
When do you think they will equate evil with black people though?
http://cozay.com/
Plenty evil across africa and yes it's black evil. I wonder what is worse black on black evil or white on black evil?
R13...
Honorary Master
The context of the whole thing flies way over your head...
Ronjay
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LOLOLOL. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Public services have to be provided to all, regardless of political affiliation. If what you are saying is true, DA would be shooting itself in the foot, because they would never gain more votes. In addition, they could then not claim that they are better then the ANC, could they? How could they discriminate, but then expect to gain votes?
Um, I thought you said they are only for people that vote for them?
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killadoob
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Was the context that the whites dominated the blacks and the anc freed them?
3 decades later SA becomes a shyte hole like the majority of africa.
You keep looking back, if you look at africa in 2011 it suggests SA is ticking a time bomb. Sadly when the ANC has ruined the country it will still be the white mans fault
. So you cannot actually do anything wrong in africa, whip out the white man card and you can literally destroy countries and have the support of the people.
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kingrob
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Are the ANC municipalities delivering these basic services? My sister, who works for the City of Cape Town, says a lot of them have been placed under administration by Escom, cos they simply cannot pay their electricity bills anymore.
Um....if you dont vote for the ANC, then I guess they are not for you hey?
Im sorry if I made it difficult for you to understand, maybe I need to use pictures.
Tick
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Actually apart from the usual drivel and BS we expect to hear around election times, I don't see the ANC putting up that much of a fight, relatively speaking, now that you mention it. They aren't really fighting with violence, nor are they even lifting a single finger trying to improve their abysmal service delivery. I mean they literally had to be dragged kicking and screaming to bother to even do something about cops that shot a service delivery protester dead on live TV - right before an election! That arrogance is just amazing if you think about it. The best they can muster is calling Zille a cockroach, accusing her of not being able to dance, and trying to scare the very stupidest of voters into thinking that voting for DA = voting for apartheid to come back. You call that putting up a fight? Seems they are more or less going about business as usual. The voters are starting to wake up, but the ANC ministers and cronies aren't yet feeling it in their bottom line. The ANC will "let" the DA win more municipalities because they don't have much choice. The Western Cape gets back the least of the tax Rands it sends to Pretoria of any province and still manage to be run better than any other province, and have better economic growth, to the point that voters country-wide are really noticing .. maybe many of the people aren't quite as stupid as the sushi-eaters of this world take them for.
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alloytoo
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No she doesn't speak any native language fluently my friend. Before a rally or a speaking engagement she probably asks her domestic worker to teach her a few words or phrases. Her pronunciation of those uttered words or phrases are such that I sometimes can't hear what she's saying. Which is actually offensive sometimes. But that's not the point, the point is that the DA must wake up to the reality that there's no way black people will vote for the DA in overwhelming numbers if the DA is still seen as white and if its visible leaders are white and not from poor backgrounds like the majority. I think 'm being realistic here from what I'm obsessive everyday on the ground and in the media, I stand corrected though
Zille speaks English, Afrikaans, Xhosa and German. African columnists have acknowledged her competency.
Are black leaders of the required calibre available? I don’t think so.
There are a few, but not very many. Bantu education is a bit of a bitch to get over, and it hasn't improved much. In another 20 years we'll be able to equally share out the blame between the old NP and the ANC. ;-)
Ronjay
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I know that the ANC are K@K, doesn't mean that the DA need to follow their example. If the DA want more votes they are going to need to earn them. They are going to have to work harder then the ANC would, unfair but the truth.
Um....if you dont vote for the ANC, then I guess they are not for you hey?
Im sorry if I made it difficult for you to understand, maybe I need to use pictures.
Nah, I vote for DA because the ANC suck. And there isn't an alternative. But all that has nothing to do with what you said. Need a dictionary?
Without getting embroiled over the merits of Bantu education, the crappiness of Bantu education is no excuse for the ignorance of wannebe ANC politicians (if they can’t do the job, take a hike). A black face and a pulse is NOT a qualification. That’s why the DA doesn’t want them pulling-down the status of the party with retarded and bling-crazed decisions. Unfortunately, this means a predominantly white party. That or another non-delivering, corrupt and criminal African party. We have enough of them.
OK. I will get slightly embroiled. Whenever there’s an ignorant screw-up, Bantu education is blamed. Some direction:
Schooling was introduced by the missionaries (mission schools). As expected, there was a strong theological component. This didn’t serve the purpose of the apartheid authorities. They got involved. NOT through any altruistic sense, but because an educated workforce could be more effectively exploited (mainly mines). One that could read instructions, write directions, develop work schedules & ratios, quantity survey (ore to gold), etc.
The curriculum was too difficult for teachers and students (witness current ‘dumbing-down’). They requested the apartheid authorities to modify it. This was done (no choice). So, Bantu education was instigated by the Bantu against apartheid wishes.
This is a contentious claim and any link would be accused of being fake or PC by the opposing side. If you want proof, you will have to research from ‘first principles’. The material is available.