Android >>> iOS

[DA-LION-619]

So you think a company like Nvidia would have that issue either? And the Netflix issue is directly a Telkom issue, MyBB did an article on it.
Again, you're veering off-topic, now you're talking about carrier e-sim support for a device that hasn't been released, when the talk is about what is now.

You've shifted the entire point. This was about dev support for apps.

Well there you go, you want to blame the carrier for dev support.
A carrier wouldn’t have that much control in Apple’s ecosystem.
It’s Netflix but the dev support is different on Android, Netflix only does device certification on Android.

Then it's stuck on local, I'd rather want the steam integration or log in with Google instead.
You've also completely veered off the original point again.

Nope. Still the same point, what is 2FA?
You’re entering an OTP from a device you have access to.
By using my fingerprint, I have attested who I am which is validated by TouchID or Windows Hello.
Here’s a demo,

Yubico demo website

demo.yubico.com

 

[Johnatan56]

Well there you go, you want to blame the carrier for dev support.
A carrier wouldn’t have that much control in Apple’s ecosystem.
It’s Netflix but the dev support is different on Android, Netflix only does device certification on Android.

There is something wrong with you if you think Telkom having an issue with their fixed time netflix deal that was tied into LTT billing which gave the cert being the same as Nvidia or Apple having issues with Netflix cert for their own hardware.

Nope. Still the same point, what is 2FA?
You’re entering an OTP from a device you have access to.
By using my fingerprint, I have attested who I am which is validated by TouchID or Windows Hello.
Here’s a demo,

Yubico demo website

demo.yubico.com

You still have OTP on Apple, you've completely veered off into something different.
Logging in via MS/Apple/Google or whatever is a completely different topic and there I'd argue log in with Google is probably the most common.

 

[DA-LION-619]

There is something wrong with you if you think Telkom having an issue with their fixed time netflix deal that was tied into LTT billing which gave the cert being the same as Nvidia or Apple having issues with Netflix cert for their own hardware.

This is why I said don't flip the script, I asked you who should be blamed?
This isn't only a Netflix issue, it's common with content services on Android. It's openness as a platform is detrimental to it's ability of being consumer friendly. If Netflix supports the same hardware just without the 'telkom' brand, then yes you have a dev support issue.

I still blame Windows for not integrating it yet with e.g. e-mail app, this should have been built as a windows API by now.

You said Windows does not support WebAuthn, I said it does.
Windows Hello, is literally the API.

Then you'd need to set up a connection between the MS account and the service, I'd prefer not to have that.

You then said you need some connection, which you don't.

Then it's stuck on local, I'd rather want the steam integration or log in with Google instead.
You've also completely veered off the original point again.

Then you said, it would be stuck on local. Which makes no sense.

You still have OTP on Apple, you've completely veered off into something different.
Logging in via MS/Apple/Google or whatever is a completely different topic and there I'd argue log in with Google is probably the most common.

You're making stuff up for no real reason, Android also supports WebAuthn, which you could have tried in the demo.

Yubico demo website

demo.yubico.com

 

[Hamster]

my opinion is mine, you want to drink the Kool aid, go right ahead,
Ive said my piece, actually used a Idiotphone, so I have something to base my hatred around my actual experience. and nope dont care, still hate it even more now than before.

I guess people find out once they have used it and then they decide, Fortunately, I never had to part with my own money for it, I got one to use from work.
and I got to experience its Stupidity firsthand, so all smiles from me.

Isheep going Android Baaad Apple good dont bother me one little bit.

That is a very long way to say you don't care.

 

[Dolby]

So in all this thread with the fighting , did I miss the reply on my Gmail contacts ?
Can you pull them through to iOS ?

... and how did Netflix come into all of this? :/

 

[Truth_or_Dare]

So in all this thread with the fighting , did I miss the reply on my Gmail contacts ?
Can you pull them through to iOS ?

... and how did Netflix come into all of this? :/

I have my Exchange and Google (Gmail) contacts added as accounts to my iOS contacts and it pulls through to all my devices.

Not sure if that answers your question.

 

[Dolby]

I have my Exchange and Google (Gmail) contacts added as accounts to my iOS contacts and it pulls through to all my devices.

Not sure if that answers your question.

It does - thanks !

 

[AfricanTech]

If I ever do go to hell, Satan will give me an iphone and say there's your new phone.
then i'll consider myself in hell at that point.

even when I had to help others with their Iphones, and try to figure out where sh*t is, I hated it,
kept on saying to myself, Glad I never brought this, so glad I never spent my money on this.

and I had to get i-macs going, and i-pads and i-phones and all I kept saying to myself is why God does this POS exist?
why cant these Isheep people just buy anything else, litrally anything else,

go for a month without an android phone? Id rather beat myself with my own Torn off Limb,
or sit with a toothache or Vote for the ANC. no thank you .

 

[Johnatan56]

This is why I said don't flip the script, I asked you who should be blamed?

I just said Telkom, and that the issues are not the same.

This isn't only a Netflix issue, it's common with content services on Android. It's openness as a platform is detrimental to it's ability of being consumer friendly. If Netflix supports the same hardware just without the 'telkom' brand, then yes you have a dev support issue.

So you missed the issue, this is legality, the same would have happened to Apple if they did the same thing.

You said Windows does not support WebAuthn, I said it does.
Windows Hello, is literally the API.

I said Windows does not support integration getting OTP from e-mail, not that it doesn't allow you to do WebAuthn. You brought WebAuthn into it, it's not, it replaces your e-mail accounts etc.

Then you said, it would be stuck on local. Which makes no sense.

The certificate is on the device, you need another device to auth a new device. You can't just log onto a new device and have it working, you'd need access to any of your old devices as well. So how is this more advantageous than just tying everything to log in with Google?

You're arguing something completely different to what my statements are, Swa seems to have rubbed off on you based on how you argue.

 

[The Voice]

Hypothetically, if someone moved across - what would the impact ?

I've read that WhatsApp history is stored in different locations on iOS / Android ?
Does Google Photos work exactly the same ie snap a photo and automatically uploaded ?
Any other issue that people have faced ?
Contacts ?

Found it really easy using https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201196.

Transferred everything EXCEPT WhatsApp chats (Android stores them in Google, iOS in iCloud, so not the same file extension or something). For some reason it’s possible to transfer the chats from iOS to Samsung (makes no sense why it can’t work the other way), but no other Android phone. Weird, I know. If you HAVE to transfer the chats, you’ll have to use a 3rd party. I used Tenorshare and it went quite well, but do your homework, obviously - 3rd party, so there’s always a risk.

 

[Dave]

So in all this thread with the fighting , did I miss the reply on my Gmail contacts ?
Can you pull them through to iOS ?

I actually run both an iPhone and an Android phone and my Gmail contacts stay synced across both.

 

[bwana]

Are whatsapp conversations really that important to people that it would influence their decision not to change ecosystems?

 

[DA-LION-619]

I just said Telkom, and that the issues are not the same.

So you missed the issue, this is legality, the same would have happened to Apple if they did the same thing.

Please explain how Telkom, who didn’t make the device, the OS or the app is responsible?
There’s no legality BS. Someone bought the device and they also paid for Netflix,
explain how this isn’t a dev support issue when Netflix is supported on the exact same hardware without the Telkom brand.

Telkom also sells Apple hardware btw, but like I said carriers don’t bully Apple. You won’t find an iPhone booting up with the Vodafone logo.

I said Windows does not support integration getting OTP from e-mail, not that it doesn't allow you to do WebAuthn. You brought WebAuthn into it, it's not, it replaces your e-mail accounts etc.

You just pointed out why OTPs are useless.
If a service can do 2FA with an OTP, it can easily do WebAuthn.
Windows Hello does not require a MSA account, I doubt you’d prove otherwise.

The certificate is on the device, you need another device to auth a new device. You can't just log onto a new device and have it working, you'd need access to any of your old devices as well. So how is this more advantageous than just tying everything to log in with Google?

Again you’re proving why OTPs are useless. I don’t know why you want integrations for pointless things or additional steps where it’s not needed.
You either are using a trusted device or have a key.
SSH from anywhere,

GitHub - tavrez/openssh-sk-winhello: A helper for OpenSSH to interact with FIDO2 and U2F security keys through native Windows Hello API

A helper for OpenSSH to interact with FIDO2 and U2F security keys through native Windows Hello API - tavrez/openssh-sk-winhello

github.com

Oh look, Windows Hello APIs.

You're arguing something completely different to what my statements are, Swa seems to have rubbed off on you based on how you argue.

I’m not, I said WebAuthn is a thing.
OTPs are useless I said it, you proved it.
Some wouldn’t even consider it a factor in MFA.

This is like how you didn’t want to accept Apple Pay works offline so you started making nonsense up, about tokens and crap.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Hypothetically, if someone moved across - what would the impact ?

I've read that WhatsApp history is stored in different locations on iOS / Android ?
Does Google Photos work exactly the same ie snap a photo and automatically uploaded ?
Any other issue that people have faced ?
Contacts ?

Google Photos works the same way yeah.

Contacts if living in Google now you simply setup and sync.

Google products work as well if not better on iOS than on Android (many design choices make more sense with iOS design language)

WhatsApp is the only problem and quite honestly you don’t need that old **** just start fresh.

Apple does have a migration assistant from Android to iOS but it’s been many years since I used it.

Move from Android to iPhone or iPad - Apple Support (ZA)

Ready to transfer to iOS? Download the Move to iOS app to get help switching from your Android device to your new iPhone or iPad.

support.apple.com

 

[Dave]

Didn't @The Voice change over and use an app to move his WhatsApp chats recently

 

[The Voice]

Didn't @The Voice change over and use an app to move his WhatsApp chats recently

Post #150.

Used Tenorshare.

 

[Dave]

Post #150.

Used Tenorshare.

No one took any notice so I thought you should repeat yourself

 

[DA-LION-619]

Are whatsapp conversations really that important to people that it would influence their decision not to change ecosystems?

It’s really good at searching, this is going back to the Blackberry version. I’ve never used iMessage/FaceTime so I can’t compare but everyone I work with is in the Apple ecosystem completely but WhatsApp is the default go-to.

Spotlight + Siri suggestions makes the search even better, I only search in WhatsApp if I need to find a specific document/link/video etc.

 

[bwana]

It’s really good at searching, this is going back to the Blackberry version. I’ve never used iMessage/FaceTime so I can’t compare but everyone I work with is in the Apple ecosystem completely but WhatsApp is the default go-to.

Spotlight + Siri suggestions makes the search even better, I only search in WhatsApp if I need to find a specific document/link/video etc.

Nothing you've said would give me cause to stick to one OS over another. Documents, links, and videos, etc, could all be stored or indexed elsewhere.

 

[backstreetboy]

Please explain how Telkom, who didn’t make the device, the OS or the app is responsible?

Didn't read the news on this?

Telkom LIT box drops Netflix support — here’s what happened

Telkom abruptly dropped support for Netflix on its LIT streaming box at the end of September, leaving numerous customers furious and scrambling for alternatives.

mybroadband.co.za

“The Telkom LIT box is an operator Android offering and, as such, an agreement was signed directly between Telkom and Netflix,” the company stated.