Another race attack at top university

DJ... said:
Please provide the stats to back this up.
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Racism usually comes from a background of ignorance. Hence it stand that if he's this proud to be racist, he's equally proud of his ignorance. So we can therefore conclude that he doesn't want or need stats. So asking is pointless.
 
DJ... said:
Definitely?

Please provide the stats to back this up.

Or stop using language where you profess to represent a majority, or a fsckload. You represent yourself, and only yourself.

Deal with it.

And I wasn't obsessing with stats there. I was pointing out that you professed that you represent the opinions of the majority. Nothing twisted. I simply quoted you within the correct context...
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Correct context my arse. I never claimed to represent anyone. I said that racist are in the majority, which is my opinion formed through observation of the people I interact with and extrapolation of the data gathered, you know, empirical evidence.


You should see a shrink about you obsession, before it consumes you.

And provide evidence that I represent only myself. I WANT STATISTICS!!! I WANT A STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZE AND A SCIENTIFICALLY RIGOROUS STUDY!!!!

Randhir said:
Racism usually comes from a background of ignorance. Hence it stand that if he's this proud to be racist, he's equally proud of his ignorance. So we can therefore conclude that he doesn't want or need stats. So asking is pointless.
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No, racism usually comes from a background of murdered, raped and robbed family and friends. Then, contrary to lefty liberal belief, a rigorous study of available literature indicating significant differences in outcomes between races. Like blacks having lower IQ's than whites, even in developed countries. Like blacks being disproportionately represented in prisons. Then making the informed decision that their "culture" has nothing to offer me, and deciding that I want nothing to do with them. Asking for statistics here isn't pointless, because I can provide them, which is exactly why the troll DJ.. will suddenly shut up about statistics. He was only asking because he know they didn't exist; when they exist, asking for proof undermines his irrational tantrum.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
No, racism usually comes from a background of murdered, raped and robbed family and friends. Then, contrary to lefty liberal belief, a rigorous study of available literature indicating significant differences in outcomes between races. Like blacks having lower IQ's than whites, even in developed countries. Like blacks being disproportionately represented in prisons. Then making the informed decision that their "culture" has nothing to offer me, and deciding that I want nothing to do with them. Asking for statistics here isn't pointless, because I can provide them, which is exactly why the troll DJ.. will suddenly shut up about statistics. He was only asking because he know they didn't exist; when they exist, asking for proof undermines his irrational tantrum.
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Thanks for trying :) But trying to argue with an idiot doesn't hold much fascination for me :)
 
Please provide stats.

Drunkard #1 said:
Correct context my arse. I never claimed to represent anyone. I said that racist are in the majority, which is my opinion formed through observation of the people I interact with and extrapolation of the data gathered, you know, empirical evidence.


You should see a shrink about you obsession, before it consumes you.

And provide evidence that I represent only myself. I WANT STATISTICS!!! I WANT A STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZE AND A SCIENTIFICALLY RIGOROUS STUDY!!!!



No, racism usually comes from a background of murdered, raped and robbed family and friends. Then, contrary to lefty liberal belief, a rigorous study of available literature indicating significant differences in outcomes between races. Like blacks having lower IQ's than whites, even in developed countries. Like blacks being disproportionately represented in prisons. Then making the informed decision that their "culture" has nothing to offer me, and deciding that I want nothing to do with them. Asking for statistics here isn't pointless, because I can provide them, which is exactly why the troll DJ.. will suddenly shut up about statistics. He was only asking because he know they didn't exist; when they exist, asking for proof undermines his irrational tantrum.
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Randhir said:
Thanks for trying :) But trying to argue with an idiot doesn't hold much fascination for me :)
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Is everyone that disagrees with you an idiot?

Necuno said:
Please provide stats.
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These should get you started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence

All the evidence (for and against) is nicely summarised with links to every statistic you could want.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
Correct context my arse. I never claimed to represent anyone. I said that racist are in the majority, which is my opinion formed through observation of the people I interact with and extrapolation of the data gathered, you know,
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Its seems your data set is awfully biased, i.e. one would think racists roll together. That, or your extrapolations suffer from confirmational bias. Since you have two degrees, an introductory course in statistics would not only do you good but should as well be a walk in the park.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
Is everyone that disagrees with you an idiot?



These should get you started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence

All the evidence (for and against) is nicely summarised with links to every statistic you could want.
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The fact, as you highlighted it, is the 'evidence' has almost equal amounts of pro and con points which really nullifies it as evidence really.
 
Fsck is this still going on...sigh.

So Drunkard#1 which magical country are you and your kin gonna emigrate to where your perspective is the norm?
 
porchrat said:
I'm no English professor but that looks a lot like you trying to speak on behalf of white South Africans.
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No, that is me expressing my opinion, not me professing to represent every white person in the country. My interpretation of the situation described in the article. I was quite clear, so you're either clutching at straws or trolling.

battletoad said:
Its seems your data set is awfully biased, i.e. one would think racists roll together. That, or your extrapolations suffer from confirmational bias. Since you have two degrees, an introductory course in statistics would not only do you good but should as well be a walk in the park.
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Stats101: Done (a few time actually - School, Wits, UNISA), so no, I don't need to be reminded of my stats course. I never claimed to have any data other than this. Yes is biased, but I doubt you'll find anything better. I never claimed that it wasn't, but if you claim it's wrong, then show me data that proves your view.

Fudzy said:
The fact, as you highlighted it, is the 'evidence' has almost equal amounts of pro and con points which really nullifies it as evidence really.
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No, looking at the evidence for what I said, it's pretty much all pointing one way. There are a lot of lefty liberal researchers looking for reasons that support their ideologies over mine, since the numbers are pretty much irrefutable at this point. There is some controversy, but that doesn't change the reality on the ground, you know, the dead and traumatised victims of crime, and the ruin of this country and the whole of Africa.

ponder said:
Fsck is this still going on...sigh.

So Drunkard#1 which magical country are you and your kin gonna emigrate to where your perspective is the norm?
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I don't need to find a country that shares my perspective, just one where European culture is entirely dominant. Where "fit in or **** off" applies to "them", not "us". There are fewer racists in the northern states (USA) than the southern states, not because they're different people in the north, but because they've got less reason to be racist. Homogeneous communities function best.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
I don't need to find a country that shares my perspective, just one where European culture is entirely dominant. Where "fit in or **** off" applies to "them", not "us". There are fewer racists in the northern states (USA) than the southern states, not because they're different people in the north, but because they've got less reason to be racist. Homogeneous communities function best.
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Dude, why don't you just emigrate to a country where European culture is dominant? You know it's not going to happen in South Africa soon, so ranting, raving and spewing will not help you at all.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
No, that is me expressing my opinion, not me professing to represent every white person in the country. My interpretation of the situation described in the article. I was quite clear, so you're either clutching at straws or trolling.
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Then you've expressed it really badly - go back and read over the thread and you'll realise that all you've done is paint yourself as a racist - nothing more, nothing less.

It's 2014 by the way, not 1914.
 
AfricanTech said:
Then you've expressed it really badly - go back and read over the thread and you'll realise that all you've done is paint yourself as a racist - nothing more, nothing less.

It's 2014 by the way, not 1914.
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It's ironic that these are the type of people who moan about how being proud about being black is okay but being proud about being white is not. Context is always key.
 
mike6870 said:
Watching this thread -I'll know that you are winning this argument when folks start calling you a rascist.
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He is a racist. He admits as such. He is proud of it, and proclaims to be such quite often on the forum. He does not hide this...
 
Drunkard #1 said:
If integration leads to violence and very few positive outcomes, why is it being forced down our throats? Segregation leads to less xenophobia and all sorts of positive outcomes, and yet it's illegal. Homogeneous societies perform best. Always have, always will. Except Africa, which is why we've got forced integration here.
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Folks not going to like the above. Libs hate the truth. The only way to carry on under their delusions is to call you rascist. Anytime now...
 
mike6870 said:
Dear DJ.....you say that like it's a bad thing ?
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Oh Christ almighty. You said he was winning because people called him racist. I point out that he's proud to be one and happily admits as such, which negates your point entirely, and you read some sort of irrelevant inference into the post...
 
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