Apple has lost it's innovation

Care to give an example?

Well - um - Samsung make a fair share off their Blu Ray players? And 3D TVs? What about LED TVs?
What about Onkyo, Marantz, Sony, Yamaha from the high definition audio codecs?
Don't think any of these were around 5 years back?

What wasn't around 5 years back that Apple gets 75% revenue from nowadays? Cellphones? Music players? Notebooks? Monitors perhaps?
 
Galaxy Note sized, I'd imagine...

Can't be ... Steve tested all sizes and ratios, the iPad is the best ratio and the best size. Anything greater than a 9.7" sucks - and anything smaller sucks.
 
It's amazing how much s**t the fanbois eat from Apple. The only 'new' thing on the 'new' iPAD is the screen, everything else has been done by someone else before. LTE tabs exist and at price points far lower than Apples $629 for 16GB, faster processors done, bluetooth 4 done, upping the camera to 5mp done and the list goes on. So the best they can come up with in a year is a better screen and everyone goes oooooh. It's like adding an 'S' to the iPhone4 and saying 'Talk to Siri, it talks back'. Woop di doo. The marketing hype surrounding Apple is amazing, Apple says the A5x, a dual core processor, with a quad core graphics chip is faster than the Nvidia Tegra 3 quad core and immediately it's 5X faster. No evidence of this, no tests, no benchmarking, but because Apple says it, it's a fact. The fanbois cannot see the wood for the trees. As for price points, I am sure Apple could reduce the prices of their products. Just look at the almost $100 billion dollars they have in the bank for the proof that they're ripping their customers off. They have a slave labour force in China where they pay nothing to have those beautiful screens and devices made and all the fanbois see is their shiny little iPads and the words 'I must have at all costs' and 'Where do I get one'. At least I'm not caught up in that and have the ability to make sane choices about what I want. As for the Cloud..... the closure of MegaUpload should make people wary of the cloud. Imagine if this happened to Apple and looking at some of the legislation currently waiting for approval in the US, it could. My data, my files and my personal information should be under my control, not some corporate who sees me a cash cow.
 
Well - um - Samsung make a fair share off their Blu Ray players? And 3D TVs? What about LED TVs?
What about Onkyo, Marantz, Sony, Yamaha from the high definition audio codecs?
Don't think any of these were around 5 years back?
BD = evolution of DVD?
LED TV = evolution of TV...?
What wasn't around 5 years back that Apple gets 75% revenue from nowadays? Cellphones? Music players? Notebooks? Monitors perhaps?

Tablet PCs... smartPhones? Those haven't been around that long. They go a long way beyond evolution of something previously existing.
 
*rant deleted*. At least I'm not caught up in that and have the ability to make sane choices about what I want. *sense about cloud deleted too - i agree with this part*
Are you saying my choice to buy an iPad was insane and uninformed?
 
Are you saying my choice to buy an iPad was insane and uninformed?

I'm saying I'm not sold to the marketing hype. I don't live with the must have mantra because the church of Apple says to me I must have one of their products.
 
BD = evolution of DVD?
LED TV = evolution of TV...?


Tablet PCs... smartPhones? Those haven't been around that long. They go a long way beyond evolution of something previously existing.

They had smartphones before the iPhone?
They even had tablets?

The one thing that the iPhone did do, was cause absolute chaos in the market with the lawsuits - at least one day in 20 years time it'll be known for somethig
 
Well - um - Samsung make a fair share off their Blu Ray players? And 3D TVs? What about LED TVs?
What about Onkyo, Marantz, Sony, Yamaha from the high definition audio codecs?
Don't think any of these were around 5 years back?

I couldn't find an accurate detailed breakdown of Samsung's revenues but it seems they make most of their revenue from their semiconductor, display panel and mobile phone divisions. How long has Sumsung been making those product lines?


What wasn't around 5 years back that Apple gets 75% revenue from nowadays? Cellphones? Music players? Notebooks? Monitors perhaps?

iPhone and iPad are the two new product lines for Apple. 5 years ago Apple was in neither market.
 
The one thing that the iPhone did do, was cause absolute chaos in the market with the lawsuits - at least one day in 20 years time it'll be known for somethig

The funniest thing about people who complain bitterly about Apple fans is their blatant hypocrisy and willful one-eyedness. You may not like the iPhone but it's effect on the phone market is undeniable from both a technological and business standpoint.
 
iPhone and iPad are the two new product lines for Apple. 5 years ago Apple was in neither market.

Ah - that's what you mean ...

So I can open a factory and manufacture pool accessories - and because I never did them 5 years back, they're 100% of my revenue? Then it's even more than just the technology companies .... it's most companies under 5 years of age.
 
The funniest thing about people who complain bitterly about Apple fans is their blatant hypocrisy and willful one-eyedness. You may not like the iPhone but it's effect on the phone market is undeniable from both a technological and business standpoint.

You're blinded ...

Go look at the specs of the iPhone when it was launched and tell me how that 'revolutionized' the market. It was no better and in many aspects, worse than existing phones. Apple have got fantastic marketing, great designs that often outdo competitors and outstanding quality.

If you take off the Apple blinkers and be honest, the original iPhone - lacking a decent connection, multitasking, copy/paste - was a step back from most of the phones on the market.

Lucky, things have improved

EDIT Gut tells me you're going to list the millions of sold *roll eyes*
 
Ah - that's what you mean ...

So I can open a factory and manufacture pool accessories - and because I never did them 5 years back, they're 100% of my revenue? Then it's even more than just the technology companies .... it's most companies under 5 years of age.

Apple wasn't a startup it was one of the biggest tech companies in the world. And not only did it enter two new markets but it completely dominated them, in 5 years.

At this point it is hard to tell if you are just being obtuse for the fun of it or just dense.
 
Interesting ...

For what it's worth I enjoy Apple products and they have made my life easier. I do find it funny how people must always bash Apple and make them out to be anything less than as good as they currently are. Some points to consider:

I've seen a few posts saying that Apple is bad and not innovative 'cos all they did was improve processor speed, screen resolution and added LTE in the new iPad. So what!? Last time I checked, most of us upgrade our PC's because we want a faster processor and better graphics. It's the software ON the device that makes it worth buying or not and all they're doing is allowing the device to run better programs faster. Not much different from the results of the various upgrades we've done on our PC's or when we over-clock them?

There was a statement to say that Apple does not really play in the educational market. Go have a look at their website and see how much effort they do put into those areas.

Apple plays in the high-quality, top end part of the technology grid. Given the money they're making it's obviously working for them and it's clear that more people want to have items from that category. It does not make them better, its merely where they've positioned their brand. Same as Woolworths and PEP stores. Both will sell you a shirt, but many people prefer buying the shirt from Woolworths.

As with anything in life .. if you don't like it ..... move along. It is your right NOT to buy Apple products. It is your right NOT to drink the kool-aid and it is your right NOT read any of their articles/posts. It is also your right to comment on anything, so let's do that with more focus on constructive debate.
 
What Apple has managed to cram into this tablet is just incredible, and keeping the same price point in the process. What are people expecting, a plasma cannon and a transporter? :confused:
 
OP, why has Apple lost its innovation? If you look at the companies history, there are greater periods than a few years where ground-breaking products weren't released. Does Apple then keep losing and then finding their inspiration over again?

If anything, you should blame Apple's competitors for not challenging Apple. There really is no competition to the iPod and iPad.

And before you throughout the fanboi argument, which is always a sign of defeat ;) I dislike iOS, and own an Android phone for this reason. Although I do love and cherish my MBP, the iOSification of OS X is causing me much concern.
 
There really is no competition to the iPod and iPad.

Not one other company can compete with the storage space the iPod Classic offers. I would've thought by now there would be some competing products.
 
It's amazing how much s**t the fanbois eat from Apple. The only 'new' thing on the 'new' iPAD is the screen, everything else has been done by someone else before. LTE tabs exist and at price points far lower than Apples $629 for 16GB, faster processors done, bluetooth 4 done, upping the camera to 5mp done and the list goes on. So the best they can come up with in a year is a better screen and everyone goes oooooh. It's like adding an 'S' to the iPhone4 and saying 'Talk to Siri, it talks back'. Woop di doo. The marketing hype surrounding Apple is amazing, Apple says the A5x, a dual core processor, with a quad core graphics chip is faster than the Nvidia Tegra 3 quad core and immediately it's 5X faster. No evidence of this, no tests, no benchmarking, but because Apple says it, it's a fact. The fanbois cannot see the wood for the trees. As for price points, I am sure Apple could reduce the prices of their products. Just look at the almost $100 billion dollars they have in the bank for the proof that they're ripping their customers off. They have a slave labour force in China where they pay nothing to have those beautiful screens and devices made and all the fanbois see is their shiny little iPads and the words 'I must have at all costs' and 'Where do I get one'. At least I'm not caught up in that and have the ability to make sane choices about what I want. As for the Cloud..... the closure of MegaUpload should make people wary of the cloud. Imagine if this happened to Apple and looking at some of the legislation currently waiting for approval in the US, it could. My data, my files and my personal information should be under my control, not some corporate who sees me a cash cow.
Paragraphs are your friend.

Are apple saying their A5x processor is 5x faster than the Nvidia Tegra3 or the A5?

Megaupload was shut down for piracy. Nothing to do with the cloud.

So much Apple hatred. Why? Can't afford their products? Whats this little rant really about? Were you one of Steve's bitches?
 
As to innovation, 75% of Apple's revenue comes from product lines that didn't exist 5 years ago. Care to name another company who can claim anything near that?

Get rid of the word innovation then - then we're on the same page.
There is nothing new about a cellphone ....

in·no·va·tion/ˌinəˈvāSHən/
Noun:
A new method, idea, product, etc: "technological innovations".
 
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