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What software did you use on the S3?
Jola
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HBee;8914949From a cost of ownership and buy-in to the Andriod eco-system standpoint you need to have a pretty good denial system to stick with apple.[/QUOTE said:Its called a Reality Distortion Field
Without lifting a finger huh?
Another person listing everything android can do, yet doesnt. You know what? My note cannot play mkv's. No matter what I do, what rom, app, bla bla, it wont play them without stuttering or soun/sync issues. Why? There is just too much going on to pinpoint the reason. So whoop di doo to your list. Oh and my iphone can do all those things, and (this is the kicker) they are guaranteed to work!
So your fictitious buddy with his fictitious iPhone 3g that is now 4 years old do not set the standard.
You droid fanboi's are as brainless as the apple ones. You are unable to apply objective reasoning. I bought a droid. I bought 3. I tried my damdest to make it work before I offered my opinion, and you somehow think your self righteous spew is supposed to mean something to me?
drukkie
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you sound like my wife....take a point and then harp on it...
Dolby
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I'll answer this one :
What? NFC is DOA! It consumes too much battery power at this stage and purposely left out until it matures. Besides, I've NEVER used it ... have you?
Pienats
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OK a few posts have touched on Madman's post, so I'm not going to specifically quote stuff.
I've found points made as pros and cons for both Android and iOS actually go both ways depending on who you talk to. My wife had a cheaper Android handset and hated it. Last year she switched to an iPhone. She is much happier now. I knew that she would prefer iOS before she got her Android handset, but at the time cost was a prohibitive factor.
Myself, I'm solidly entrenched in the Android eco-system. I've thought numerous times that I should buy a cheap iPod to play with, but then I realise I will have to duplicate the eco-system.
As a side note, neither of has ever needed to jailbreak/root our phones to achieve functionality we wanted. On my old HTC Desire, the only reason I had to root the phone, was to install the Cyanogenmod ROMs. The procedure is well documented, and it's a very stable and usable ROM, not difficult to get on your phone at all. Even the average layman would be able to do it if he/she is able to read and follow simple instructions. There are a variety of other trusted ROMs out there with equally easy-to-follow instructions.
Battery drain also depends on how you use your device. My wife has to charge her iPhone every single day. Had to do so from the start. She enjoys the phone and uses it extensively every day, so obviously the battery is going to drain. I also enjoy my phone (Galaxy Nexus at the moment), and at times when I extensively use it's features, I also need to charge it every day. Other times when it's merely a phone or SMS device, I can go 2 or 3 days without the need to charge it.
If you are comfortable in your eco-system of choice, stay there. Although I prefer Android, I still maintain that both platforms are excellent. They approach the same "problem" from different angles, but both solve it more than adequately.
I personally feel that the recent Apple/Samsung verdict harms the whole smartphone industry far more than helping it.
At this point in time I do not have enough experience with WP or BB, so I can't really comment on it.
No matter what iOS 6 will bring to the table, be it better or worse than Jelly Bean, it will be great.
I've found points made as pros and cons for both Android and iOS actually go both ways depending on who you talk to. My wife had a cheaper Android handset and hated it. Last year she switched to an iPhone. She is much happier now. I knew that she would prefer iOS before she got her Android handset, but at the time cost was a prohibitive factor.
Myself, I'm solidly entrenched in the Android eco-system. I've thought numerous times that I should buy a cheap iPod to play with, but then I realise I will have to duplicate the eco-system.
As a side note, neither of has ever needed to jailbreak/root our phones to achieve functionality we wanted. On my old HTC Desire, the only reason I had to root the phone, was to install the Cyanogenmod ROMs. The procedure is well documented, and it's a very stable and usable ROM, not difficult to get on your phone at all. Even the average layman would be able to do it if he/she is able to read and follow simple instructions. There are a variety of other trusted ROMs out there with equally easy-to-follow instructions.
Battery drain also depends on how you use your device. My wife has to charge her iPhone every single day. Had to do so from the start. She enjoys the phone and uses it extensively every day, so obviously the battery is going to drain. I also enjoy my phone (Galaxy Nexus at the moment), and at times when I extensively use it's features, I also need to charge it every day. Other times when it's merely a phone or SMS device, I can go 2 or 3 days without the need to charge it.
If you are comfortable in your eco-system of choice, stay there. Although I prefer Android, I still maintain that both platforms are excellent. They approach the same "problem" from different angles, but both solve it more than adequately.
I personally feel that the recent Apple/Samsung verdict harms the whole smartphone industry far more than helping it.
At this point in time I do not have enough experience with WP or BB, so I can't really comment on it.
No matter what iOS 6 will bring to the table, be it better or worse than Jelly Bean, it will be great.
No I have not, but I hate not being able to when it does kick in.
Biscuit1018
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Ok, so I remain polite and you throw stones?
Does it make you feel important? Or 18?
I don't do feature counting because it is meaningless. It assumes I crave the features that may be missing.
You have failed to address almost any of my points.
I am where I am.
My whole family have Apple and it works very well for us.
To transition us is expensive & time consuming.
During the transition period I would need to maintain two eco-systems.
Did it occur to you that I have done the thinking?
You don't know my requirements or circumstances. How can you evaluate?
Another point I didn't mention - I dont use my iPhone much for anything else apart from email, calendars, reminders, music, podcasts, twitter and web browsing. (not much) I have plenty of other stuff installed that works fine. The kids play the odd game. I will never want to edit a doc on my phone because my fingers are the size of sausages.
So my iPad does the other stuff.
I am not claiming that iOS is superior to Android nor am I admitting that Android is superior.
Both are good. Decisions are made at a point in time.
Most people make rational decisions *for them*
It might be you with the reality distortion field.
BTW - One aside. Its not just cheaper Android phones that have not been that upgradeable.
Can all por even most premium Android phones from the last 2 years run JB? ICS?
However the handset manufacturers are getting better at this.
Jola
Honorary Master
My oldest Android device (Motorola Xoom) has stock OTA JB, for a few months now.
Both my previous phone (Sony Xperia Arc) and my new one (Sony Xperia S) have stock OTA ICS.
So yes, in most cases the Android devices are being upgraded.
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Without lifting a finger huh?
Another person listing everything android can do, yet doesnt. You know what? My note cannot play mkv's. No matter what I do, what rom, app, bla bla, it wont play them without stuttering or soun/sync issues. Why? There is just too much going on to pinpoint the reason. So whoop di doo to your list. Oh and my iphone can do all those things, and (this is the kicker) they are guaranteed to work!
So your fictitious buddy with his fictitious iPhone 3g that is now 4 years old do not set the standard.
You droid fanboi's are as brainless as the apple ones. You are unable to apply objective reasoning. I bought a droid. I bought 3. I tried my damdest to make it work before I offered my opinion, and you somehow think your self righteous spew is supposed to mean something to me?
Mad much ??, The buddy owns a 3g, but the point is why is his phone so pityfull ? Where is this wonderfull upgrade path I hear about ? In order to play mkv's you need some conciderable grunt under the hood, and I dont think the note is up to the task. My HTPC with a dual core attom 1.6 cannot even do it without assistance from the graphics card. My S3 however has no problems playing mkv's.
I'm not even going to respond to your very unprofessional outburst towards the end of your reply.
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Fudzy
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What office software did your S3 come with?
Pienats
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Sadly, as with many things in life, I reckon this is a money making scheme. I also somewhat feel the manufacturers bring it onto themselves, building several products each iteration. To upgrade any of them, they will need to add their own special touches (skins/launchers/bloatware) and all these need to be tested. In my opinion, this is where Apple got it right for their approach to the smartphone "issue"; Only 1 model (barring the storage variations) is released each year. And older models do eventually get left out of the upgrade loop, so they have a small, fixed number of devices to upgrade (I'm focusing on the phones here but the pads/pods follow a similar trend, so I don't feel they skew my view).
Google is trying the same with the Nexus line of devices, and they seem to be successful with that as well, to a degree. That was the major motivation for me to get the Galaxy Nexus instead of something like the S3 or the One X.
There are also plenty of older and cheaper Android devices that get plenty of love from the modding community. Yes it takes some effort on your part to get it up and running, and it might not be as fast as a top of line new phone, but chances are you can get at least ICS on your cheapish device. If only for the reason "because I can". As far as I know, there is no way to get iOS6 on an iPhone 3<x>. Not even if you jailbreak it. Does this make Android better than Apple? Certainly not. Does it make Apple better than Android? Again, certainly not.
From what I can tell, I stay with Android for very similar reasons you're sticking with Apple. And there's nothing wrong with that, at all.
I still fail to see why people think that when 2 things are different, one necessarily needs to be better than the other. There is nothing of importance to me that Apple can do that Android can not. Likewise, I'm sure there's nothing of importance Android can do that Apple can't.
I'm in the fortunate position that my wife is technical enough that she doesn't rely on me to help her with her iPhone. I would gladly buy her more iDevices if she would like them. I simply prefer Android because I'm rooted in that particular eco-system, and I'm comfortable there.
Sorry, if I offended. You post is just so long that i did not complement you on the parts that I agreed with. My bad.
It came out with pre-installed polaris software.
Biscuit1018
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You didn't offend.
I just believe that debate should be just that... debate.
Remember as Pienats said, we can both be right and be in different eco-systems.
Its what right for us at a point in time.
The fanboys of both camps are boring because they see the main objective as to trump the other device or eco-system.
Whereas both are damn good.
genetic
Honorary Master
:erm:
All your issues with Android can be avoided if you don't root. You don't have to root your phone you know...
Jola
Honorary Master
I never have, have not found it necessary, I can do everything that I want/need.
I didnt want to, but my note was dying by lunch time on stock. On checkrom it lasted the whole day but it kept restarting every second day and I only notice after someone phones my wife to find out why my phone is off. Then I changed to ics and had other issues. The problem is that its ALWAYS cutting edge, it always needs tweaking, even on stock without root.
I'm not saying that Android is bad. In fact its really good. I wouldnt have bought all those droid devices if I thought it was all bad. Its just a ballache for me. I really hope that they reach the point when they can just be left on stock and work properly and perhaps if I could not go back to my iPhone I would put in the effort to make it work.
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Fudzy
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Did you get a local S3?
