Apple iPhone 5 unveiled

Mike Smit said:
Close. 2100mAh. :)

I am looking at upgrading to a 2500mAh battery now. It is not an official battery so a little weary. Must mull it over for a bit.
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I'm always weary of these custom batteries, I prefer a battery with a Samsung badge on it in my Ace and S2. :)
 
Fudzy said:
Having loathed my Desire's battery life I'm really sad to see the Galaxy S3 isn't much better (other than talk time)

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...n-battery-life-test-concludes-see-how-it-did/

I put it on charge at about 10% every night and other than loo time it's really not used that extensively during work hours. During the weekend if I'm taking a few snaps I'm lucky to get half a day.
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Takes a while before a new battery starts giving optimum battery life.

My S2 was the same when I got it, but after a while it started lasting longer and longer.

But now I play too much with the phone, and the battery life is a day and a half max. :)
 
kingrob said:
Takes a while before a new battery starts giving optimum battery life.

My S2 was the same when I got it, but after a while it started lasting longer and longer.

But now I play too much with the phone, and the battery life is a day and a half max. :)
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Had my phone since June. Is it still a new battery?
 
kingrob said:
I'm always weary of these custom batteries, I prefer a battery with a Samsung badge on it in my Ace and S2. :)
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Ye. I got a non official for my HD2 back in the day. Was nearly 2 times bigger than my stock battery, and lasted about two thirds of the stock.
 
I've never been willing to compromise screen brightness for battery life. If it dies, it dies. That's just how I roll.
 
cerebus said:
So you can only have the latest Android update if it's an official rom, and that equals freedom?
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Yep,you don't need unofficial roms on a standard android phone to do things that cant be done on ios standard.

Unofficial roms are more for people that like to tinker not everybody is like that and not everybody wants to jailbreak their iphone.

Standard devices compared android is alot more open than ios.


I have never installed unofficial roms on ANY of my androids and have not felt the need to,I don't wanna root my iphone and i feel it very restrictive at times.(THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE USED BY APPLE)Not everybody is interested in tinkering and possibly voiding warranties etc.It needs to just work.
 
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Mike Smit said:
Ye. I got a non official for my HD2 back in the day. Was nearly 2 times bigger than my stock battery, and lasted about two thirds of the stock.
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Yep these after-market batteries are not as efficient as OEM stuff so don't bother,I once read a proper comparison test some time back on this issue and in almost ALL cases the manufacturer standard batteries came out very far ahead.

I was contemplating getting some German brand back then but it turned out to be useless.
 
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Android 1.6 had features that iOS still doesn't have (e.g. multitasking and widgets), but you would still want to upgrade for the features that later versions offered. In the case of Android that definitely includes all the ICS changes which were very significant and in my opinion finally made Android usable and attractive.

Then 4.1 was also a big upgrade from 4.0 in terms of overall smoothness. I struggle hugely with the lack of smoothness on my tablet. The identical app across both devices (iPad2 vs Sony Tablet S using for instance Isilo which is a major one for me) is perfectly smooth on iOS and choppy on Android. So yeah the OS is more open from a base level but I'll trade some openness for a better user experience, hands down.
 
cerebus said:
Android 1.6 had features that iOS still doesn't have (e.g. multitasking and widgets), but you would still want to upgrade for the features that later versions offered. In the case of Android that definitely includes all the ICS changes which were very significant and in my opinion finally made Android usable and attractive.

Then 4.1 was also a big upgrade from 4.0 in terms of overall smoothness. I struggle hugely with the lack of smoothness on my tablet. The identical app across both devices (iPad2 vs Sony Tablet S using for instance Isilo which is a major one for me) is perfectly smooth on iOS and choppy on Android. So yeah the OS is more open from a base level but I'll trade some openness for a better user experience, hands down.
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I had no issues with SE's on gingerbread as far as speed/smoothness goes.
 
falcon786 said:
I had no issues with SE's on gingerbread as far as speed/smoothness goes.
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Really ok. They didn't even add GPU hardware UI acceleration until Honeycomb. I loathed the stuttering in GB when I had the SGS2. It's gotten better though but ICS still isn't quite there. That's why I want a Nexus 7.
 
cerebus said:
Really ok. They didn't even add GPU hardware UI acceleration until Honeycomb. I loathed the stuttering in GB when I had the SGS2. It's gotten better though but ICS still isn't quite there. That's why I want a Nexus 7.
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Project Butter on 4.1 has finally sorted those stuttering problems out. Took long enough...
 
genetic said:
Project Butter on 4.1 has finally sorted those stuttering problems out. Took long enough...
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The UI in 4.1 is very smooth. The apps in Android in general have a long way to go to catch up though. I guess maybe they aren't using the 4.1 API yet or something, I dunno?
 
cerebus said:
The UI in 4.1 is very smooth. The apps in Android in general have a long way to go to catch up though. I guess maybe they aren't using the 4.1 API yet or something, I dunno?
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Do not want to turn this into a iOS vs Android thread (Guess to late for that anyway)

But, total app smoothness is not gonna happen, well not via API/OS tweaking. The reason for this is how the 2 platforms deal with multitasking. iOS suspends apps and leave only services to run where Android can leave full apps open in the background.

So in short Android has 2 ways of dealing with this.
1: Make it more like iOS and suspend, pause and kill apps as they lose focus(god forbid) and make UI the highest priority in the CPU scale or
2: Throw resources at the problem till it does not become an issue, or you can live with it.

Now each OS way of dealing with this has both its pro's and con's so the end of the day its a pick your poison and live with it approach.
 
I get that but even so... I can eliminate all background apps on Android and still not get smooth performance. I can sit next to my wife's iPad, and have the identical app open on both, and on iOS it's lovely and smooth and on Android it's choppy. And backgrounding has some impact but I think iOS just has better graphical rendering. I can be wrong about that though, it's just an impression.
 
cerebus said:
I get that but even so... I can eliminate all background apps on Android and still not get smooth performance. I can sit next to my wife's iPad, and have the identical app open on both, and on iOS it's lovely and smooth and on Android it's choppy. And backgrounding has some impact but I think iOS just has better graphical rendering. I can be wrong about that though, it's just an impression.
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Install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&hl=en on your android, pop a Widget onto your desktop, and be amazed at how many bloody apps run.... worse is most of the buggers start up right after you killed em. Widgets and auto starts kind of does that.

Also Like I said, Apple's OS can give the UI priority, more technical UI is always niced vs other apps. Android lets all apps cycle as equals, that cycling + number that is doing it causes most of the stutter.
 
I've never had these stuttering problems on my SGT10.1 or Note 1. I read about it but cannot relate to it. No lagging. No waiting for stuff to open or execute. Same as my iPads or iPhone 4.
 
My Sony lags terribly, can't figure out why. I'd post a video of it. But really the ui isn't the main issue for me it's the apps.
 
cerebus said:
My Sony lags terribly, can't figure out why. I'd post a video of it. But really the ui isn't the main issue for me it's the apps.
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What apps if I may ask.

My Sony is also a pain in my side, Tablet not so much but then that's what you get for refusing to buy top of the range phones, well lets rather say I do not have pants to fit 5" screens.
 
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