If they allow that, what stops someone from using an Apple Music subscriber's id to log in and listen to music without paying especially if one of the people is supposed to be in the U.S and the other in S.A. I also have 2 accounts and I downloaded something from the U.S. store and have to wait for 90 days before I use the S.A Apple Music.
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If they allow that, what stops someone from using an Apple Music subscriber's id to log in and listen to music without paying especially if one of the people is supposed to be in the U.S and the other in S.A. I also have 2 accounts and I downloaded something from the U.S. store and have to wait for 90 days before I use the S.A Apple Music.
SauRoNZA
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You only need to wait 90 days if you are using automatic updates.
If you don't enable those you can log out and back in a hundred times without issue.
Im guessing IOS9 is being released on the 9th?
Lost all my music again, had around 7GB of cached items, last night before bed cached a U2 album, this morning it only showed 100 songs on the device.
Connected to iTunes and there was 7GB of Other showing taking up space.
Rebooted iPhone and still only 100 songs showing.
Seems you have to treat Apple Music with kid gloves.
Lost all my music again, had around 7GB of cached items, last night before bed cached a U2 album, this morning it only showed 100 songs on the device.
Connected to iTunes and there was 7GB of Other showing taking up space.
Rebooted iPhone and still only 100 songs showing.
Seems you have to treat Apple Music with kid gloves.
Im guessing IOS9 is being released on the 9th?
Lost all my music again, had around 12GB of cached items, last night before bed cached a U2 album, this morning it only showed 100 songs on the device.
Connected to iTunes and there was 12GB of Other showing taking up space.
Rebooted iPhone and still only 100 songs showing.
Seems you have to treat Apple Music with kid gloves.
Lost all my music again, had around 12GB of cached items, last night before bed cached a U2 album, this morning it only showed 100 songs on the device.
Connected to iTunes and there was 12GB of Other showing taking up space.
Rebooted iPhone and still only 100 songs showing.
Seems you have to treat Apple Music with kid gloves.
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Seems to happen to some other people as well.
http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/downloaded-music-keeps-disappearing-from-my-iphone.1906227/
http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/downloaded-music-keeps-disappearing-from-my-iphone.1906227/
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Could you not just switch stores (change your counrty) in settings instead of logging in and out of what im guessing are 2 seperate Apple ID's? Obviously purchases are connected to your Apple ID so signing in with a different one would reset those purchases.
In hindsight yes, on weekend decided on my main account an chose SA as country.
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Curious to know if the SA store is still different/limited in terms of content? Are any popular apps/artists missing?
OK so I have finally signed up for Apple Music and so far everything is working fine - honestly only tried with a few albums making available offline etc (still need to spend some proper time with it).
My question is, how much data does Apple Music use if you are out and listening to music over 3G/4G on songs /albums that are not downloaded for offline use yet? Anyone have any idea?
My question is, how much data does Apple Music use if you are out and listening to music over 3G/4G on songs /albums that are not downloaded for offline use yet? Anyone have any idea?
Can someone also explain this whole iCloud Music Library and if I need to enable it? When I did at first, it wouldn't allow me to manually copy songs over from my mac to iPhone connected via USB - anyone else have this problem? Does that then mean, even if I locally own the music and files, I will have to download them again instead of copying over via USB? Surely that can't be right?
Yes that is right. Any music Apple can match and provides you will download the Apple Music version. Any music it can't match or doesn't provide, it will automatically upload your version to their servers and you will download that on your devices.
The point is to make the cloud the central repository of your music and give you access to it anywhere. It is not exactly optimised for low bandwidth environments like SA.
So the only way to really use Apple Music then is to then copy my whole collection to the cloud? I currently have roughly 20 000 songs - so will this all have to be uploaded and then downloaded again to my iPhone and mac for me to listen to offline? Surely that is a mistake?
What is I turn off iCloud Music Library on my iPhone whenever I want to copy over music from my mac via USB and then back on when I am done, will it delete all the music it previously downloaded for later?
Surely there must be another way to get music from iTunes to iPhone using USB cable?
I use iMazing or Waltr App for that – or rather, I have them – they can do it, but I've never needed to use it. But they are $$ options. Not sure of a free version – but someone else might be able to make suggestions.
Not that I'm offering an answer to your initial question, since I haven't yet signed up for Apple Music, and don't really know what one can/should do, in your given situation.
If Apple can match any of your songs to ones they have in their library then you won't have to upload them before you can download them on another device. Keep in mind that this isn't a backup of your music though, the versions you download on your device will be the DRM encumbered ones tied to the Apple Music service, so don't delete your originals altogether.
The point of this exercise is that once you have been through the pain of syncing your local library and the iCloud Library you will be able to access (download or stream) any of your 20 000 songs from any device without needing to sync with your original iTunes library.
It is either or. Either you use the iCloud library or you manage your own library. You don't need iCloud library to use Apple Music though so if you prefer to go that route you can.
Not using iCloud library.
So I will always have to download the music to my device instead of just copying the local files across when my phone is connected? For instance I have just copied over 2000 songs from iTunes to iPhone using USB cable, so in the future if I had to copy them over again, I would have to download 2000 again?
Im pretty sure I do need iCloud Library as I tried to download an album from Apple Music for offline use and it said it can't as I don't have iCloud Library enabled on my phone. So if I pay to use Apple Music I can either get full benefit with offline music being able to download but then need to download all my local files each time or pay for Apple Music but not be able to download files for offline use?
Are you currently using Apple Music?
You are right you need iCloud library to use offline Apple Music playlists. I hadn't tried it.
It's about 5Mb per song and it will buffer part of the following song as well. Just make sure that you're "High quality over mobile network" is turned off.
So, slightly on the grey side (legally), but has anyone found a decent way to remove the DRM? I'm loving Apple Music, but my iPod classic isn't supported, iTunes for Android is still "on its way" and I can't just copy it to my flash drive for my car :/
Lord Flacko
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Read an article that Handbrake can do the job, too much admin though.
So just an update I enabled iCloud Music Library on my iPhone and Mac and iTunes did its upload thing etc.
Firstly, the ability to "download" albums for offline use is amazing as there is so much to choose - the only problem I see is stopping myself from downloading everything I see.
One big problem I have tho is some of the albums I have in my library I can't get on my phone for some reason? Even when I search all music on my phone, I don't see the albums. I see other albums from the artist but not all of them I have in my local library and thus there is no way for me to get the album on to my phone.
Anyone else have this issue and maybe know of a work around?
Firstly, the ability to "download" albums for offline use is amazing as there is so much to choose - the only problem I see is stopping myself from downloading everything I see.
One big problem I have tho is some of the albums I have in my library I can't get on my phone for some reason? Even when I search all music on my phone, I don't see the albums. I see other albums from the artist but not all of them I have in my local library and thus there is no way for me to get the album on to my phone.
Anyone else have this issue and maybe know of a work around?