Apple Silicon M5

bwana said:
I suppose there are a whole host of users who are going to find this, arguably impressive, M5 chip valuable, but I’m not one of them.

Since Apple switched to their own silicone the only thing that has made me contemplate an upgrade is damage to my existing hardware.
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100% agreed, my M1 Pro is still styling strong and will only be replaced due to the usual depreciation cycle so likely get an M5 next year as part of normal process, but my personal machine will keep rocking the M1 Pro for many years to come.

My iPad Pro however is feeling it a bit now and I would like to try an M-class one but also don't feel a burning need to pay for it. My biggest issue really with it is that plugging it into an external monitor is a 1080p crap show which means I can't even stand it long enough to try it as a desktop.

My daughter's Intel is feeling it hard though especially now that some apps are simply not support on Intel any longer...that's besides the fan noise I can hear two rooms down when it does just about anything.
 
Johnatan56 said:
Dunno, for me it was when my ex's Macbook Pro didn't receive security updates anymore while the Windows counterpart did (it's 5 years major OS, 7 years security).
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Intel, like PowerPC, models were inevitably heading towards obsolescence when Apple Silicon arrived.
 
Johnatan56 said:
They have the same rules for the M1, most likely this will be the last major OS for it, then only security patches for another 2.
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Not that I’m particularly concerned, seeing as I haven’t “upgraded” to Tahoe, but what’s this conjecture based upon.
 
Johnatan56 said:
They have the same rules for the M1, most likely this will be the last major OS for it, then only security patches for another 2.
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Smiggles said:
Source? Also who gives a crap it’s not like the machine will stop working and spontaneously combust.
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FiestaST said:
There is zero official sauce/source as to when M1 support “will end”, everything at this stage is speculation.
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I'm not sure what the technical reason for sunsetting would be unless it's artificial?

Plenty of pre-M1 devices support v26 OS's so it could be that the M1's survive at least to another major release or so with security updates for years. I'd also guess that Apple would prefer those adopters' devices to age out rather than drop them purely because there's still so much adoption. The M1 Air is still their most successful device in terms of sales, still available new in retail in some markets and probably close to 15% of MacBooks in the wild.
 
quovadis said:
More to do with Intel and older GPUs/T-chips in most of those models is where Apple drew the line imho.
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It just matches the 5 years OS + 2 years security they've done for a long while. I don't think the M1 will be different as Intel was definitely still offering support.
 
On the topic of chargers, if there's one thing I hate, its packing and unpacking my laptop charger at home, cables lying around etc.
I recently got a new laptop, my first with USB C charging, bid the Mac world goodbye in exchange for a Dell.

On my desk at home my Dell 65W charger is permanently plumbed in to my cable management system with all my other cables, used to charge my laptop, power bank, headphones, speaker etc. If I really have to charge 2 devices at a time, then I just plug another cable in to the laptop or charge it from the power bank, though this almost never happens.

I have a 30W UGreen charger and 2m cable permanently in my laptop bag, it works just fine to charge my laptop when mobile. It even still falls in to Dell's official specs for charging this laptop.
 
bigboy529 said:
On the topic of chargers, if there's one thing I hate, its packing and unpacking my laptop charger at home, cables lying around etc.
I recently got a new laptop, my first with USB C charging, bid the Mac world goodbye in exchange for a Dell.
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Your Mac must have been pretty old not to have supported usb c charging. IIRC they switched a decade ago.
 
quovadis said:
More to do with Intel and older GPUs/T-chips in most of those models is where Apple drew the line imho.
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They're releasing a new M processor every year. So to drive those sales, except for a few people who either really need the speed or have money to waste, they have to end support for the older devices in one or another way. One way would be to jack up the RAM requirements of the new OS or add BS features which nobody needs and claim the vanilla M1s with 8GBs are no longer capable of running this. Hopefully something like OpenCore Legacy patcher will come along for Apple M processors.
 
Mirai said:
They're releasing a new M processor every year. So to drive those sales, except for a few people who either really need the speed or have money to waste, they have to end support for the older devices in one or another way. One way would be to jack up the RAM requirements of the new OS or add BS features which nobody needs and claim the vanilla M1s with 8GBs are no longer capable of running this. Hopefully something like OpenCore Legacy patcher will come along for Apple M processors.
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Funny then that Metal 4 supports the M1.
 
Mirai said:
They're releasing a new M processor every year. So to drive those sales, except for a few people who either really need the speed or have money to waste, they have to end support for the older devices in one or another way. One way would be to jack up the RAM requirements of the new OS or add BS features which nobody needs and claim the vanilla M1s with 8GBs are no longer capable of running this. Hopefully something like OpenCore Legacy patcher will come along for Apple M processors.
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Not sure I agree. The average Mac user isn't doing much more than productivity, browsing, media consumption etc. That 8GB is more than enough for that average user. Attrition will be through hardware failure/damage and new form factors/features/performance etc rather than through obsolescence. Imho the only real threat would be local LLMs and most users are simply offloading all of that to ChatGPT etc. I would be surprised if M1 support is dropped prior to 2030.
 
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