Apple wireless charging patent filed

ghoti said:
Im also not finding references to radiation with Tesla`s wireless power. I just see oscillators and stuff mentioned :confused:
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IMO JStrike was just going off on a tangent.

All of these implementations create magnetic fields, they just seem to reduce the field nowadays by tuning the equipment better.

But Tesla may have done some tuning as well.
 
Jola said:
Interesting article ! Of course this isn't prior art, just as pinch-to-zoom and slide-to-unlock wasn't.
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If they were using the same technique, then possibly. But they aren't
 
Jola said:
IMO JStrike was just going off on a tangent.

All of these implementations create magnetic fields, they just seem to reduce the field nowadays by tuning the equipment better.

But Tesla may have done some tuning as well.
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Dont tell Jstrike about our Earths magnetosphere if he is worried about magnetic fields. But going through the information I have on Tesla (and I am sure its incomplete), there is absolutely no mention of him working with radioactive substances (which produce radiation) to get his tower working.
 
ghoti said:
Could you be more specific. I am going through that patent and cant see what you mean specifically.
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These are the items that differentiate it from other offerings.

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3. A battery charging circuit, comprising: a first node arranged to receive wirelessly provided power; a short term charge storage device having a first charge capacity; and a long term storage device having a second charge capacity, wherein the second charge capacity is substantially greater than the first charge capacity, wherein the long term storage device is charged by, (A) storing charge corresponding to the power wirelessly received at the first node into the short term charge storage device, (B) when the stored charge is equal to about the first charge capacity, then passing the stored charge from the short term storage device to the long term storage device, and (C) repeating (A) and (B) until the charge stored in the long term storage device is about equal to the second charge capacity.

4. The circuit as recited in claim 3, wherein the short term charge storage device is an ultracapacitor and wherein the long term charge storage device is a LiPO battery.

5. A method of wirelessly transmitting power, comprising: creating a first coupling mode region of an electromagnetic field within a near field of a power supply transmit antenna; coupling the electromagnetic field and a receiver antenna of a first receiver device within the coupling mode region; creating a second coupling mode region of the electromagnetic field different from the first coupling mode region within a near field of a transmit antenna of the first receiver device; coupling the electromagnetic field to a receive antenna of second receiver device in the near field of the transmit antenna of the first receiver device; wirelessly delivering power from the power supply to the first receiver device by way of the power supply transmit antenna using the first coupling mode region of the electromagnetic field; and wirelessly delivering at least some of the power wirelessly delivered to the first receiver device is wirelessly by re-transmitting the at least some power to the second receiver device by way of the first receiver transmit antenna using the second coupling mode region of the electromagnetic field.

6. The method as recited in claim 5, wherein the first receiver device is a keyboard.

7. The method as recited in claim 6, wherein the second receiver device is a mouse.

8. The method as recited in claim 7, wherein the power supply is included in a host computing device.

9. The method as recited in claim 8, wherein the second coupling mode region is between the keyboard and the mouse.

10. The method as recited in claim 9, wherein the first coupling mode region is between the host computing device and the keyboard.

11. The method as recited in claim 9, wherein the first coupling mode region is between the host computing device and the mouse. "
 
Apple 'invents' wireless charging

Wireless Charging Consortium: "Wait, it's already a thing?"

Apple: "Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of our lawyers"

The Alliance For Wireless Power, which also touts long-range juicing, will no doubt be comparing Apple's designs to its own blueprints... Apple's patent application was filed in November 2010, before the alliance was established, but well after tech startup WiPower applied for its patent on the very concept of wireless charging in 2008. Link
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ghoti said:
I guess you must have been really confused when they invented wireless internet :)
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That is something else all together....almost completely made possible and useful by the existence of batteries and charging in the first place.
 
SauRoNZA said:
That is something else all together....almost completely made possible and useful by the existence of batteries and charging in the first place.
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Now take your imagination a little further, and imagine... no batteries :)
 
JStrike said:
Yeah, the radiation was awesome.
This is not the same implementation. Unless Apple wants to get sued to oblivion by giving their customers cancer
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Wasn't that a fabrication by Edison so they would make use of his technology instead?

If I recall they were ready to implement it but then found out that it was impossible to regulate due to it's nature and therefore impossible to bill and they wouldn't make any money.

Tesla basically wanted free power for everyone everywhere.
 
SauRoNZA said:
One day, one day.
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Well, we wont get to that one day if you were in charge of R&D :D

I was just thinking of a practical solution for me. This week when I was driving back from Cape Town... my battery on my phone went dead so I had to charge it on a car charger. Which had a short cord, which was very limiting.

You should also see the back of my desk. A ton of cables that dont need to be there in the future. Wireless power is most definitely the future. Im also thinking how useful something like this might be for future electric cars. Go park at a shopping center and while its parked, it starts charging automatically. What you can do with this technology is almost limitless.

I think I should go make an American patent. Patent wireless data communication and charging on the same circuit (we already can transmit data over power lines, so this is another logical step). Apple will probably read this post and pretend they invented this (like they have pretended they have invented everything else).
 
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SauRoNZA said:
Wasn't that a fabrication by Edison so they would make use of his technology instead?

If I recall they were ready to implement it but then found out that it was impossible to regulate due to it's nature and therefore impossible to bill and they wouldn't make any money.

Tesla basically wanted free power for everyone everywhere.
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Power transmission without cables has the side effect of radiation. Most of these modern solutions achieve "wireless power" via induction
 
ghoti said:
Well, we wont get to that one day if you were in charge of R&D :D

I was just thinking of a practical solution for me. This week when I was driving back from Cape Town... my battery on my phone went dead so I had to charge it on a car charger. Which had a short cord, which was very limiting.

You should also see the back of my desk. A ton of cables that dont need to be there in the future. Wireless power is most definitely the future. Im also thinking how useful something like this might be for future electric cars. Go park at a shopping center and while its parked, it starts charging automatically. What you can do with this technology is almost limitless.

I think I should go make an American patent. Patent wireless data communication and charging on the same circuit (we already can transmit data over power lines, so this is another logical step). Apple will probably read this post and pretend they invented this (like they have pretended they have invented everything else).
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Nah don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't do the R&D.

But I just find this is sort of a half way solution that tries to solve a problem that doesn't really exist.

You are still going to retrofit some or other device in your car to have your phone charging from it...so chances are until you buy a new car that comes with this built-in you'll have something sticking out of your 12v socket that still has a short cord...just running to a charging base of sorts instead of directly into your phone.

Guess we'll have to wait on Apple to release the final product before we get too excited.

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Oddly enough R&D is a large part of my job. More Research than development...but still.
 
Yip, Samsung in fact hold a patent for wireless charging through Qualcomm who filed for it in 2008, Good luck Apple!!
 
Personally I like to keep my electronic devices as far away as possible from electro magnetic devices.
 
HBee said:
Personally I like to keep my electronic devices as far away as possible from electro magnetic devices.
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Aaah, so how deep in space did you have to put your electronic devices so as not to be affected by the gigantic electromagnetic field you live in? (Google magnetosphere)
 
marine1 said:
Bloody chops, Samsung had it first you f'ing idiots
God I hate Apple
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No. Actually Nikola Tesla had it in 1891. If it wasn't for greedy bastards like Thomas Edison and his financial backers this technology would have been implemented a century ago.

P.S. Try not to call people idiots when you are on par.
 
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