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:eek: Hi All,

I need to know if I'm being to cautious or scammed.

I am the support manager for an ISP. Got a contact email via our website
for a user requesting a 20GB ADSL account. So we quoted, sent the application forms which the guy filled in and faxed back to us. We then Processed and the banking details were correct. So we activated the account. It's a day later and the guy has done 10Gb already.....then I get a second request via our website....from "his friend" requesting a 5GB account........and before I can send the guy a quote, he signs the original quote I sent and fills the debit details and boooomm......faxed to me......

Now this is a bit suspicious.....and not to seem racist..........the guys doesn't sound South African.........more like Nigerian or something....

We have requested that he do an EFT...and we haven't recieved that as yet.........

Regards
V
 
An EFT would take a day to reflect on your account? Corrct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, your did the correct thing- rather be cautious.
Although,maybe his friend was with him is his presence, use his fax facilities etc
Rather be safe than sorry.
 
Update On the Application Fraud

Confirmed Nigerian Syndicate.

I have learnt today that this client used his email address that
we supplied with his ADSL account to send large volumes of
scam emails with the ffg. typical 419 scam operating from SA!!!

Where and how can this be reported!!!

=> LATEST RESULT OF THE ESS PROMOTION <=

Dear Sir/
This is to inform you that you have been selected for a cash prize of One Million United State Dollars [US$1, 000,000.00].This is in line with our promotion for the world-cup come 2010. The selection process was carried out through random selection in our computerized email selection system (ess) from a database of over 250,000 email addresses drawn from all the continents of the world. This promotion is sponsored by the Federation International Football Association [FIFA], and approved by the British Gaming Board and also licensed by the International Association of Gaming Regulators (IAGR). This promotion is the first of its kind and we intend to sensitize the public.

To begin the process of your prize and to find out more about this promotion, you are to contact our claims agency stated below:
Zodiac House Promotion Company, P.O. Box 1820
Auckland Park, Johannesburg, South Africa
Attention: Mr. Smith Adams
Phone: +27 733 908 202
E-mail: [email protected]
 
**** sorry, there's a thread on ADSL bandwidth theft, take a look there, hopefully you can track it back to the phone line used. How much did they use?
 
10GB out of the 20GB they applied for.....before I disabled the account...

Syndyre said:
**** sorry, there's a thread on ADSL bandwidth theft, take a look there, hopefully you can track it back to the phone line used. How much did they use?
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That's the scary part....The details were correct and loaded
onto our debit order facility fine. But the next debit run date is on the
17th...so ill only know by the 19th.....

Might be a stolen account detail from a robery or something.........

Syndyre said:
Could've been worse I guess, banking details were fake?
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ven0m said:
Confirmed Nigerian Syndicate.

I have learnt today that this client used his email address that
we supplied with his ADSL account to send large volumes of
scam emails with the ffg. typical 419 scam operating from SA!!!

Where and how can this be reported!!!

=> LATEST RESULT OF THE ESS PROMOTION <=

Dear Sir/
This is to inform you that you have been selected for a cash prize of One Million United State Dollars [US$1, 000,000.00].This is in line with our promotion for the world-cup come 2010. The selection process was carried out through random selection in our computerized email selection system (ess) from a database of over 250,000 email addresses drawn from all the continents of the world. This promotion is sponsored by the Federation International Football Association [FIFA], and approved by the British Gaming Board and also licensed by the International Association of Gaming Regulators (IAGR). This promotion is the first of its kind and we intend to sensitize the public.

To begin the process of your prize and to find out more about this promotion, you are to contact our claims agency stated below:
Zodiac House Promotion Company, P.O. Box 1820
Auckland Park, Johannesburg, South Africa
Attention: Mr. Smith Adams
Phone: +27 733 908 202
E-mail: [email protected]
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anyone tried contacting Mr Smith Adams and hear what his story is?
You should try get it recorded and get as much info as possible.
 
ven0m said:
That's the scary part....The details were correct and loaded
onto our debit order facility fine. But the next debit run date is on the
17th...so ill only know by the 19th.....

Might be a stolen account detail from a robery or something.........
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You phoned the bank? Probably best to find out what's going on.
 
@ven0m, could you maybe post partial bank details, i.e. only the last 4 numbers of the bank account, and the bank name & branch code - it might help some of your peers that might fall prey to this apparent Nigerian 419 fraudster...

PS: Those bank account details probably belong to someone else, there is likely to be an element of Identity Theft in this case.
 
I've had to close down 5 accounts in the past 6 months for spamming, all of them with "Lotto winner" or "Deposed president" type scams. Three of the accounts were paid for with cash deposits at Eldorado Park (WTMB).
 
Maybe a bit off topic, but this made me think: there's so many spam filters to block out spam coming in, why don't ISPs have a similar spam filter for email being sent out (the small possibility of blocking legitimate emails probably rules this out), or at least a spam alert to flag accounts that are sending suspicious emails?
 
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texo said:
I've had to close down 5 accounts in the past 6 months for spamming, all of them with "Lotto winner" or "Deposed president" type scams. Three of the accounts were paid for with cash deposits at Eldorado Park (WTMB).
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How did you find out about the spam, from people reporting it or did you detect it yourself?
 
Mail servers can be configured to block outgoing spam or have limits in place to block thousands of emails being sent. All this doesn't help if the user doesn't use your mail server though and uses his own computer as a mail server to send off the mail.

As for the scam of using other peoples bank details, it happens. Best thing is if you have a sign up script that records the ip of the client signing up. That way you can see where the sign up is from. If the bank details and the ip country doesn't match, then it's probably fraud. Especially if the ip is from Nigeria.

If something seems fishy, then it probably is, just looks for things out of the ordinary. I'd rather make doubly sure that it's not fraud and possibly lose one client than lose a lot of money.

Also another thing for those with debit systems, make sure you get signatures. As far as I know it's against the law to debit someones account if you don't have a signature. It might not be your responsibility to verify the signature, but you have to get one to cover yourself.
 
bullfrog said:
Mail servers can be configured to block outgoing spam or have limits in place to block thousands of emails being sent. All this doesn't help if the user doesn't use your mail server though and uses his own computer as a mail server to send off the mail.
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Ah ok, that makes sense. Seems there's always a way to bypass the systems that are in place, one cannot win.
 
@ Venom this is some hectic news - so now they've elevated the process to getting bandwidth as well! Sheeez!

Nice work on your part though dude!
 
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