Arcane for raiding

[Odom]

Odom please shut up, people make mistakes and typos. I have full t9 and you will go oom in under a minute if you just bash arcane blast. Go play your 3 button warlock please.

Armory link please.

Also lets break down warlocks:

Destruction:

Immolate, Incinerate. Conflagrate, Chaosbolt, Life Tap, Curse.

Affliction:

Corruption, Haunt, Shadowbolt, Curse, Unstable Affliction, Drain Soul, Life Tap

Demonology:

Immolate, Corruption, Curse, Shadowbolt, Soul Fire

Ye bro 3 buttons indeed.

 

[Corgon]

Well AFAIK if you pressing more then 5 buttons then you doing it wrong anyway. And he asked for advice on Arcane mages, so that could also be advice on stats and what not. I really dont understand how you can be so angry at the fact that Mages are facerolling pve dps. Really, i hate to be all cliched here, but i think you need some sun. Or something.

Ps. I play a lock, not a mage. Well actually now a druid, but yeah. Its not like im a mage fan boy or something.

Really makes me laugh how bleak people get over the flavour of the month stuff. Odom i bet you were one of those whingers who moaned that Dks were so OP etc etc. People like you actually spend so much time QQing that you miss out on playing the game. Or, i daresay having fun. Which is why i thought the game existed in the first place.

EDIT.I only saw ODumbs post now about warlocks rotation. Wow, so instead of 3 keys you have to use like 6. OH NOES! If you cant handle 6 keys you need to go play the Sims or something.

 

[Pitbull]

This is the reason I don't go to the official WoW forums.....

Each and every poster on there is bitching or QQ'ng about something on another class. Pls guys don't kill this section. This is not a QQ section. If you want to cry pls go do it on the official forums

 

[Joy-Energiser]

Armory link please.

Also lets break down warlocks:

Destruction:

Immolate, Incinerate. Conflagrate, Chaosbolt, Life Tap, Curse.

Affliction:

Corruption, Haunt, Shadowbolt, Curse, Unstable Affliction, Drain Soul, Life Tap

Demonology:

Immolate, Corruption, Curse, Shadowbolt, Soul Fire

Ye bro 3 buttons indeed.

Any dps is easymode,the hard part is fighting over who had the highest dps when some one gives a printout from a dps mod and stroking your EPEEN afterwards.

 

[avert]

Odom i bet you were one of those whingers who moaned that Dks were so OP etc etc.

dk's were op. they single handedly rendered rdruids unplayable for the whole of season 5 and 6. then of course so did arcane mages with their infinite number of buttons to push.

 

[Pitbull]

Any dps is easymode,the hard part is fighting over who had the highest dps when some one gives a printout from a dps mod and stroking your EPEEN afterwards.

In my days of playing my Rogue in TBC that was all that I aimed to do. Hit top of the DPS meter. Then I played my Shaman at top level in TBC and it was more about playing support than topping the DPS meters.

When WoTLK came out I played my Lock to 80, did my best to keep at the top spot in DPS, but then realised how nice it was not to be worried about the DPS meters. I re-rolled a Paladin and I didn't even have to watch the treat meter while tanking.

Now I'm playing a Druid.

DPS is way over rated, I have been there and done that. With gear comes DPS. If you are not top of the DPS meter but you downed the boss as a raid that is great. If you are top DPS and you keep wipping... not so great.

DPS meters are for people who want to brag at how good they are.... I know I used to be one of them

 

[w1z4rd]

Okay, so I just bashed blast as per Odoms advice... I was OOM in seconds... I dont have the kit for that... at all.. Did fantastic damage though.

 

[Corgon]

So? So they rendered Resto Druids unplayable? Then respec your druid to feral, and get a resto sham, or resto pally, or whatever. And yes, im not saying they were not OP, however they are now pretty much useless. Check out the highest rated teams etc, DK's barely feature.

Ps, i wasnt even talking about PVP by the way, i was talking about PVE.

And lets be honest.. the amount of buttons you press, with regard to PVE dps should never be more then 6. So stop bringing up that utterly retarded argument.

 

[Odom]

let me tell you how DK's were OP.

Pestilence, Pestilence, lol I have 6 death runes.

Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch followed by Engineering trinket.

That pretty much killed any class and it took no, absolutely no skill at all and you had people rolling with Glad titles because of it. I should dig up the vid of a DK using a cast random macro to get to 2100. Anyway enough about that.

In my days of playing my Rogue in TBC that was all that I aimed to do. Hit top of the DPS meter. Then I played my Shaman at top level in TBC and it was more about playing support than toppic the DPS meters.

When WoTLK came out I played my Lock to 80, did my best to keep at the top spot in DPS, but then realised how nice it was not to be worried about the DPS meters. I re-rolled a Paladin and I didn't even have to watch the treat meter while tanking.

Now I'm playing a Druid.

DPS is way over rated, I have been there and done that. With gear comes DPS. If you are not top of the DPS meter but you downed the boss as a raid that is great. If you are top DPS and you keep wipping... not so great.

I too have a druid and tanking is lol. The argument I have tho is that if you're in a top guild that's incredibly competitive, trust me, you get benched and dropped if another class is better than your own. DPS does count, look at Anub HC, Twins HC, god even Beasts requires decent DPS.

Also

Well AFAIK if you pressing more then 5 buttons then you doing it wrong anyway.

And lets be honest.. the amount of buttons you press, with regard to PVE dps should never be more then 6. So stop bringing up that utterly retarded argument.

Wait, wut?

Spec your druid feral, oh wait nvm, all feral druids base abilities got nerfed and resilience further buffed. feral is totally viable.

 

[Pitbull]

let me tell you how DK's were OP.

Pestilence, Pestilence, lol I have 6 death runes.

Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch Icy Touch followed by Engineering trinket.

That pretty much killed any class and it took no, absolutely no skill at all and you had people rolling with Glad titles because of it. I should dig up the vid of a DK using a cast random macro to get to 2100. Anyway enough about that.



I too have a druid and tanking is lol. The argument I have tho is that if you're in a top guild that's incredibly competitive, trust me, you get benched and dropped if another class is better than your own. DPS does count, look at Anub HC, Twins HC, god even Beasts requires decent DPS.

Also





Wait, wut?

Spec your druid feral, oh wait nvm, all feral druids base abilities got nerfed and resilience further buffed. feral is totally viable.

This RL would know the current changes and that Mages are on top for a reason. He would not kick a Lock for not topping the Mage's DPS. Whining about not being top as a Lock is petty then and of no use appart from trying to stroke an e-peen I'm not saying do substandard DPS. I'm saying if a mage class got buffed the RL will know it and not scream at the Warlocks for not topping the Meters.

That is pretty much a given mate, you know that just as well as I do

 

[Odom]

Okay, so I just bashed blast as per Odoms advice... I was OOM in seconds... I dont have the kit for that... at all.. Did fantastic damage though.

Did you use mana pots, mana gems and have mana spring, BoW, replenishment? Also did you sub to mage armor below 45% mana?

 

[Odom]

This RL would know the current changes and that Mages are on top for a reason. He would not kick a Lock for not toppic the Mage's DPS. Whining about not being top as a Lock is petty then and of no use appart from trying to stroke an e-peen I'm not saying do substandard DPS. I'm saying if a mage class got buffed the RL will know it and not scream at the Warlocks for not topping the Meters.

That is pretty much a given mate, you know that just as well as I do

Except that RL's in the top 100 guilds don't yell or scream. They look at your DPS, see you have a ceiling and sub you for a class with a higher one. Guilds like Inner Sanctum, Method, Stars all have at least 2 full 25man raid teams, trust me subbing out 2 or 3 of a class is no problem. They sub classes that work, want proof, please go look at all the world 1st/2nd/3rd Anub Hc kills. 3 DK's 4 Rogues, 1 Mage, 1 Hunter, 1 Lock and stacked paladins and warriors. Completely balanced raid setup isn't it?

 

[Oculate]

Except that RL's in the top 100 guilds don't yell or scream.

Where is Last Resort (Kazzak EU) ranked currently?

http://www.lrguild.org/img/banai6fa1.jpg

 

[Pitbull]

Except that RL's in the top 100 guilds don't yell or scream. They look at your DPS, see you have a ceiling and sub you for a class with a higher one. Guilds like Inner Sanctum, Method, Stars all have at least 2 full 25man raid teams, trust me subbing out 2 or 3 of a class is no problem. They sub classes that work, want proof, please go look at all the world 1st/2nd/3rd Anub Hc kills. 3 DK's 4 Rogues, 1 Mage, 1 Hunter, 1 Lock and stacked paladins and warriors. Completely balanced raid setup isn't it?

Each class has a strong point.

By your logic these top raiding guilds would run with healers, tanks and Mage only DPS?

 

[Odom]

Each class has a strong point, please name the warlocks strong point.

13% Damage Debuff: DK's and Boomers do that as well.

3/13/55 Brings nothing else to the raid. The only thing a deep destro lock used to bring was heavy sustained DPS. Now thats down the toilet we don't bring anything worth while, trust me, warlocks are going to either be forced into some lame support spec, lol demo, or replaced.

 

[Pitbull]

Each class has a string point, please name the warlocks strong point.

13% Damage Debuff: DK's and Boomers do that as well.

3/13/55 Brings nothing else to the raid.

You are deviating from the question I posted.

 

[zippy]

Except that RL's in the top 100 guilds don't yell or scream. They look at your DPS, see you have a ceiling and sub you for a class with a higher one. Guilds like Inner Sanctum, Method, Stars all have at least 2 full 25man raid teams, trust me subbing out 2 or 3 of a class is no problem. They sub classes that work, want proof, please go look at all the world 1st/2nd/3rd Anub Hc kills. 3 DK's 4 Rogues, 1 Mage, 1 Hunter, 1 Lock and stacked paladins and warriors. Completely balanced raid setup isn't it?

In RL most people play this game to have some fun, and really, if I want to, I will spec my priest as holy and dps

 

[zippy]

Each class has a strong point, please name the warlocks strong point.

13% Damage Debuff: DK's and Boomers do that as well.

3/13/55 Brings nothing else to the raid. The only thing a deep destro lock used to bring was heavy sustained DPS. Now thats down the toilet we don't bring anything worth while, trust me, warlocks are going to either be forced into some lame support spec, lol demo, or replaced.

Warlock's strong point is that its a fun class to play. I dont care that you wouldnt want a warlock in your raid because I wouldnt want to be in your raid as its seems more like a job than a game.

 

[Corgon]

Oh no! I said 5, then i said 6 buttons. Please nit pick more Odumb. Please.

 

[Odom]

tbh I've just been trolling this whole thread because of the nerd rage it generates.