Are you considering emigration?

Are you considering emigration? If so, where would you like to go?

  • North America

    Votes: 45 10.4%

  • South America

    Votes: 5 1.2%

  • UK

    Votes: 43 10.0%

  • Europe

    Votes: 73 16.9%

  • Elsewhere in Africa

    Votes: 9 2.1%

  • Asia

    Votes: 18 4.2%

  • Australia

    Votes: 27 6.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 7.6%

  • I have already left

    Votes: 40 9.3%

  • I'm not going anywhere

    Votes: 139 32.2%
  • Total voters
    432
hj007 said:
Easier to get a job once in country or before you go? So much analysis paralysis...
Asking since in SA it takes months, whereas most of my friends had jobs in the space of weeks in developed markets...
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depends on what you do and how good you are? do you stand above the crowd or firmly inside?
 
cguy said:
Some sound reasoning there…
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I have given it a lot of thought in the past. Over here things spiral downward, mostly due to the lack of maintenance and incompetence combined with corruption. I know it will get a lot worse before it gets better, if it all.

With that said, I have a couple of friends in the EU and some family in Australia, and even they have their own problems. It's a different kind of problems, but still problems. No country is perfect.

These specific ones are quite scary to read

www.bbc.com

Why Dutch farmers are protesting over emissions cuts

Farmers say proposals to cut livestock and reduce intensive farming unfairly target their industry.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
www.reuters.com

Tractors roll into Brussels in farmer protest over plans to limit nitrogen emissions

Farmers from Belgium's northern region of Flanders drove thousands of tractors into Brussels on Friday in a protest against a new regional government plan to limit nitrogen emissions.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
Dutch government proposals for tackling nitrogen emissions indicate a radical cut in livestock - they estimate 11,200 farms will have to close and another 17,600 farmers will have to significantly reduce their livestock.
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This begs the question, how far will they push in the name of climate, and at what cost?

All I'm saying is some first world governments seem to be a little too authoritarian for my taste, and I will likely not have the same freedom there as I have here.
 
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Dave said:
Quick two week course and Bob identifies as your aunt. Sorted.
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s-u-r-e, a language with its own alphabet and characters sounds like an easy two week course ...

pray tell what is your easy solution to income uncertainty? ... you know, other than "wait until they win the war and the losers are forced to ease sanctions"
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
s-u-r-e, a language with its own alphabet and characters sounds like an easy two week course ...
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I thought you were a super intelligent Russophile?

NarrowBandFtw said:
pray tell what is your easy solution to income uncertainty? ... you know, other than "wait until they win the war and the losers are forced to ease sanctions"
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Weren't those sanctions completely ineffectual? Why you worrying about them now?
 
Dave said:
I thought you were a super intelligent Russophile?
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I'm sure you know what you meant ... you're alone however

Dave said:
Weren't those sanctions completely ineffectual? Why you worrying about them now?
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vast difference between what effect sanctions have on Russia overall
vs
what effect they could have on an expat working in a specific domain
 
Hamster said:
Only for high paying jobs, let's be honest. Would you live there on half your salary (single income) with a wife and two kids?
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I couldn't have done it in SA on half my salary there either.
 
chuckles_the_cnt said:
depends on what you do and how good you are? do you stand above the crowd or firmly inside?
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Investments. But no-one outside of SA knows our institutions. Been told by friends in UK and Aus, NZ that it made it tough at first but then quickly ramped up once they got a foot into the decent firms there.


Other concern is always even with an EU passport that lets you get in, which EU countries have English as the main form of business language. I'm probably looking at Ireland or have heard some Scandanavian countries use english.. would actually need to check though which countries have english in finance/investment banking industry that allow EU passport holders to get immediate residence globally..

I've just been thinking that I'll go to EU and then figure it out.
 
Nerfherder said:
Work permit. As long as you have a job you can stay.
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Their work permit is also known as a residency visa, my point was that @purple face might be struggling with the concept of citizenship versus residency.

Residence visa for working in the UAE | The Official Portal of the UAE Government

The green visa is for skilled employees on self-sponsorship. The standard work visa is for employees of government and private sectors. Domestic helpers live and work in the UAE on the domestic worker's visa.
u.ae u.ae

Standard work visa​

A foreigner can get a normal employment visa, usually for two years, if he/she is:
The employer must apply for the standard residence visa.
 
purple face said:
I have to say Dubai is the most attractive place to live as long as I can get citizenship
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Dubai is the place you go to get into somewhere else.
You make some bucks and plan for your next destination. The problem is that if you lose your job or get in trouble you are out, back home on the next ship.
 
Dave said:
Their work permit is also known as a residency visa, my point was that @purple face might be struggling with the concept of citizenship versus residency.

Residence visa for working in the UAE | The Official Portal of the UAE Government

The green visa is for skilled employees on self-sponsorship. The standard work visa is for employees of government and private sectors. Domestic helpers live and work in the UAE on the domestic worker's visa.
u.ae u.ae

Standard work visa​

A foreigner can get a normal employment visa, usually for two years, if he/she is:
The employer must apply for the standard residence visa.
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Its not citizenship though, you can't become an Emirati.

You actually have to keep your old citizenship for when you retire.
 
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