Are you marching on Friday?

Are you marching on Friday?

  • Yes

    Votes: 192 37.1%

  • No

    Votes: 325 62.9%
  • Total voters
    517
  • Poll closed .
In a year's time some people are going to be saying "I should have marched" and others are going to be saying "Why the fsck did I even bother to march"
 
I might end up being apart of the march or protest in some form or another - just waiting to hear "how" or "if" I am needed.
I'm on duty (essential service) so I can't go and join in, but I'll find a way I guess.
 
I noticed a new hashtag #TrevorNoah4SAPresident on #ZumaMustFall

Quite funny, but very interesting when I think about it. How is it possible that Zuma is the president:
Because the majority vote ANC, and Zuma is the best of the ANC. And the majority don't dislike Zuma enough to change their vote.
A friend of a friend said the other day that he hopes to be successful, like Zuma. I asked him what he thinks of Zuma. He said "He is a great man". With a lot of effort I contained myself and realized it's an opportunity to see how voters think. So I said "That's interesting. Why is he great." He said "I don't know." I said "Well, what makes him great? How do you know he's a great man?"
He said "Well, I'm a Zulu. And he is Zulu. And he has a lot of wives and cattle." I said "Really?" He said "Yes. One day I want to be like Zuma. I don't think I ever will, but maybe if I can just get 3 wives, it will be a great achievement."

This guy grew up in a rural area outside JHB, then completed school and a diploma in Johannesburg city.

Winston Churchill said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Now for us educated people. We judge Zuma based on his ability to run a country, his trustworthiness, his track record and ability to improve the lives of South Africans.

Uneducated people judge Zuma based on superficial things. His ethnicity, and his superficial material success that they can culturally relate to.

Us educated people should be smart. So as long as this country is a democracy we cannot win based on our opinions.
I mean if you want to call yourself educated, wake up. You're a minority. Your opinion is insignificant. Yes it is. Wake up. Accept reality.

A minority complaining does nothing. A minority protesting does nothing.

Begging the government (ANC) by protesting, to change what and who they are is pathetic. It's not going to happen.

How can you change anything? You change the ruling party. Either by force, or by votes. I'm not a freedom fighter. So let's talk about votes.

For a different ruling party to get voted into power, you need to appeal to the minds of the voters. These are uneducated people. Using logical educated arguments doesn't work on them. You jump up and down getting all frustrated trying to explain what you think is obvious, but you're wasting your time. It hasn't worked, and it won't work.

So, if you want to change something, work on a way to convince the masses to vote another party or person into power.

Zuma is really cool, because he has charisma. He wears Zulu clothing. He dances. He has lots of wives and cattle.

How cool are Zuma's competition. Not very cool. They don't dance. They don't have a lot of wives or cattle and they never wear Zulu clothing.

But maybe someone like Trevor Noah could work. If he gets the funding from the educated people who have money, so that he can campaign, and learns a few Zulu dance moves, gets a few wives, and some cattle (that can be arranged), I'd say he's got a good chance.

I'm being slightly sarcastic. But I'm also not. It's sad but true.

The sooner we face reality the sooner we might be able to influence it.
 
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For whatever it's worth, I don't do well in crowds (I even find shopping centres uncomfortable) and have what I suppose would be considered clinically relevant levels of anxiety in general. Also, should things actually get a bit hectic on the street, I'm not going to pretend I don't find that moderately intimidating.

Still, I'm going to attend. I cannot easily articulate why though - Maybe it's purely selfish in the sense that I feel impotent, and this is an outlet for that.

It is surely a stone-cold truth though, that if enough of us stood up to this (or any other government), they would roll over and expose their bellies. With all of our squabbling, we are not near that point, which is a great pity, but nothing unusual for the stupid, emotional and short-sighted animals that we are.
 
thestaggy said:
The objective is to disrupt the economy by shutting parts of the country down so the action can be felt.
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Shutting down the country... would that be a stay away as in companies close, shops close, nobody uses public transport or their car... nobody goes out... just stay at home... ghost town?


Just a thought....

mmh... I was wondering if it wouldn't hit the government harder if our companies didn't pay over the monthly taxes on our salaries and we don't pay are water and rates until something is done about Zuma (but of cause keep the money ready to pay when needed)?
 
Sad to admit I'm not marching, just got back to work after some weeks of being away and I can't immediately take a day again.

Sorry and thanks in advance to those who are taking the time to march though.
 
@Devinity you're on the right track.
It would need to be organized on mass. And people would have to stay strong when they receive threats from the gov.
Most people are too weak and afraid to stick to such a thing. They'd get one threatening call/letter etc and then immediately pay, and pay a fine if given one.
 
I'm going to stay as much on the periphery as possible Copa, the thought of being carried along on the swell is :sick:

Even if we don't stay the full distance, at least we'll go.
 
Just received comms from our CEO saying any non-essential staff are allowed to put in for leave on the day. Pretty much what I expected.
 
Lope said:
........ Winston Churchill said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

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Excellent post. I agree with everything you said but would like to point out that many things claimed to have been said by Winston Churchill were not actually his words.

In his day many more persons were well read and it was quite common for persons to place comments such as the above without attribution because he and others' believed the words would be recognised and that everyone would know who the words should be attributed to.

The above statement is one of them. Experts on Churchill are pretty convinced the words were not his but in this case no one seems to know who they should be attributed to either.

Nevertheless, the words are as true today as they were then. The average voter in this country, regardless of who they vote for, have no idea why they vote the way they do. In the case of millions of ANC voters, it probably because they got a T-shirt and hamper on voting day from the ANC.
 
ZIT must fall

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If you guys really want these marches to be a success you need to organise yourselves into Whatsapp groups.
That's what the government fears the most - cos they want to be able to access Whatsapp.
That's where you can chat and share info - and it's all encrypted.
And that's how they did it in South Korea and Brazil...
 
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