Article: Apartheid will continue with current education system: Vavi

PostmanPot said:
If education is not the key, then what is?

Of course, right whinge twits do not understand he is blaming the ANC, not apartheid.
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While education is the key, holding those who steal\mismanage the funds for education is far more important as you cannot fix the problem otherwise and throwing more money at it just means more gets diverted.
 
thestaggy said:
Matriculated in 2003.

The school library was shrunk to make room for more classrooms.

Woodwork and metalwork workshops were converted into regular classes. I used the woodwork workshop in Grades 8 & 9 and only ever used the metalworkshop in Grade 9. The metalwork workshop was turned into a normal class around 2001. The woodwork workshop was converted to a regular class in time for the 2005 school year. I was part of the second last group of students that were allowed to take woodwork as woodwork was scrapped at the end of 2004.

We had labs, but we hardly ever utilised them. Never once had an exam that used the lab area and maybe once or twice a year throughout my high school career were lab exercises ever used for marking purposes. And I only used them for Science. In Biology in Grades 8 & 9 (1999 & 2000) I never once made use of the labs.

We didn't have access to the internet in my computer classes in Grade 8 and 9. We had Encarta. The library didn't have computers at all. In primary school we had PC's without internet as well, just Encarta.

This was one of Jo'burg South's more renowned public schools.

Even now, at 26, when I watch movies that depict American highschools I wonder what it would have been like to have gone to them. Proper ''shop'' classes where you actually get to learn how to make stuff and use tools. I've learnt that jazz myself, occassionally the hard way (self-injury, cocked something up), but would have been nice to have had proper teaching. Jacked up art classes where you can do more than write in freakin' caligraphy. I only took art in Grade 8 and 9 and all I ever done was write in caligraphy, do theory and draw. Never painted once. Have a driving class. Actually make use of the labs.

I understand we are a poor country and naturally our education had to be no frills stuff, but it would have been nice.
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:eek:
:( that is not even 10 years after me.

Sad. Very sad.
 
Kosmik said:
While education is the key, holding those who steal\mismanage the funds for education is far more important as you cannot fix the problem otherwise and throwing more money at it just means more gets diverted.
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By golly, maybe that is why Vavi is blaming the ANC?
 
PostmanPot said:
By golly, maybe that is why Vavi is blaming the ANC?
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We understand what you are saying and yes, Vavi means those currently in power blah blah blah... But why is it that he explicitly uses the word 'apartheid' when it has sweet FAQALL to do with apartheid? The word is not generic - especially when used in the context of SA and we all know who the bad guy is in that context. So why use it instead of just coming out and saying what he flippin' means? Cop out deluxe.
 
Kosmik said:
White education is the key, holding those who steal\mismanage the funds for education is far more important as you cannot fix the problem otherwise and throwing more money at it just means more gets diverted.
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Fixed.
 
"Only seven percent of schools have libraries, only five percent have stocked science laboratories and just one percent of the schools have internet access," he said.
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I am not sure about the libraries and science laboratories, but I know for an absolute fact that the amount of schools that have access to the internet is complete rubbish. The Gauteng Online Project has brought thousands on schools online.

South Africa's spending on education continues to grow, with Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan allocating R207-billion to the sector for 2012/13, with projections that this may rise to up to R236-billion over the next three years.

Delivering his Budget speech in Parliament in Cape Town on Wednesday, Gordhan said provincial education spending was expected to grow by 5.9% over the next three years, from R169.9-billion this year to R183.8-billion in 2015.

Read more: http://www.southafrica.info/about/education/budget2012-education.htm
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The education budget is staggering and our education spend versus total of GPD is above the world average. The weighted average being 4.9%. South Africa's education spend versus GPD is 5.3%. People stating that education is receiving less funding is absolute nonsense. The budget has increased each year and will continue to do so.

Throwing more money at this problem is not going to fix our issues. What we do need is:

1. Accountable teachers who do not hide behind unions;
2. Correct spending of allocated budgets;
3. Building of new schools to accommodate population growth. The ANC are not building enough schools;
4. Free electricity and water to all government funded schools - many schools, even in Gauteng, battle to pay their electricity bills each month.

We also need to consider socio-economic issues. Think for a bit how kids who face the following issues are going to battle to finish school:

- Living hand to mouth, not knowing where the next meal is going to come from;
- Covering long distances to get to school. Public transport is far from cheap;
- Schools do not provide books and stationery. How are kids who live hand to mouth going to find the money to buy books and stationery?
- Impact of HIV. The number of 1 parent families is extremely high. Older siblings have to step in to become the breadwinner when the parent dies;
- Living in homes without running water or electricity.

Solving these issues is really not as simple as increasing the education budget. We need a multiple pronged approach: focus on job growth and better utilisation of the allocated budget.
 
MaryJane said:
I am not sure about the libraries and science laboratories, but I know for an absolute fact that the amount of schools that have access to the internet is complete rubbish. The Gauteng Online Project has brought thousands on schools online.



The education budget is staggering and our education spend versus total of GPD is above the world average. The weighted average being 4.9%. South Africa's education spend versus GPD is 5.3%. People stating that education is receiving less funding is absolute nonsense. The budget has increased each year and will continue to do so.

Throwing more money at this problem is not going to fix our issues. What we do need is:

1. Accountable teachers who do not hide behind unions;
2. Correct spending of allocated budgets;
3. Building of new schools to accommodate population growth. The ANC are not building enough schools;
4. Free electricity and water to all government funded schools - many schools, even in Gauteng, battle to pay their electricity bills each month.

We also need to consider socio-economic issues. Think for a bit how kids who face the following issues are going to battle to finish school:

- Living hand to mouth, not knowing where the next meal is going to come from;
- Covering long distances to get to school. Public transport is far from cheap;
- Schools do not provide books and stationery. How are kids who live hand to mouth going to find the money to buy books and stationery?
- Impact of HIV. The number of 1 parent families is extremely high. Older siblings have to step in to become the breadwinner when the parent dies;
- Living in homes without running water or electricity.

Solving these issues is really not as simple as increasing the education budget. We need a multiple pronged approach: focus on job growth and better utilisation of the allocated budget.
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Good post!
 
Kosmik said:
So bad education is still Apartheids fault? When books are undelivered, teachers underpaid, schools receive less funding than ever before? And yet you and your union still vote for the SAME PEOPLE who steal your childrens money?

:wtf:
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gregmcc said:
Time and time again this happens - apartheid will be blamed until doomsday! You have been running the country for 18 (I think) years and yet you still blame apartheid! Paaaathetic!!!
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VJB 449 said:
Blaming apartheid is the easy way out. A lot of money is being pumped into education, the people that is managing that money is failing us. This is just AA and BEE biting SA in the ass again.
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What article are you lot reading? It certainly isn't the one referenced in the first post. Nowhere, not once, does he blame white people. Not even the raving loonies that used to run South Africa.
 
Schavuit said:
Education in white classrooms with white books and white notebooks and using white computers instead of those ugly black computers.

;)
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ironically i've recently destroyed 300 white computers and replaced them with black computers for a school :p
 
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