Article: DA's plan to win Gauteng a pipe dream: ANC

Gaz{M} said:
Since when has "not delivering on promises" made the slightest difference to Voters? ie: 20 years of ANC rule.
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True. Hence why the DA are becoming ever harder to discern from the ANC
 
I live and work in midvaal and nearby areas and I can safely say the DA run midvaal looks a lot better from the outside than the neighbouring ANC run areas,take meyerton for example,the streets are clean and well paved and taken care of no potholes on 90% of the roads and they have even put up a school in the one township I drive through occasionally on my way to work,a very clean and neat school I might add.The roads in the township are also slowly but constantly being upgraded.

I can safely say that the neighbouring suburb, which I reside in(which is not DA run), the roads, pavements and cleanliness conditions are not up to par.
 
supersunbirds stats are different to mine but when I did a spreadsheet a year or so ago the ANC in gauteng got 61.4% in 2011 vs DA's 32.6%. If the DA can absorb some more smaller party votes and the ANC has lost as much support as I suspect they have I would not be surprised to see a result where DA gets Tswane but looses the province with ANC on 55% and DA at about 38-40%.

It also depends on how much the EFF pulls from the ANC as few DA voters will move to them. If the EFF can take another 4-6% from the ANC then that would create a chance for the ANC to drop bellow 50% even. Still, for this election I am anticipating Gauteng to remain in ANC hands but at a much smaller margin. DA will continue to make big inroads into Northern and Eastern Cape as well as Gauteng. Other parties other than ANC and DA to watch will be EFF who may get 4-5% of the youth vote. The split IFP will continue to grow in KZN or perhaps just maintain current strength. Agang will do very little and smaller parties will loose even more support.

Of course this is just a guess. I think the bigger changes will happen in 8 years time. The DA seems to be growing at a rate of about 4% per election cycle but a lot of that was absorbing other opposition parties. If they can maintain it though they could be in with a real shot to challenge the ANC within the next decade.
 
The sad fact is that you need to overpromise and embellish to win elections. It is what you do afterwards that really counts. While the DA might be slowly becoming more ANC like in their policies, nobody can argue that they haven't delivered in the Western Cape. The problem isn't so much the ANC's policies - it's their leadership and rampant corruption and waste.
 
daveza said:
Less of a pipe dream than the ANC taking the Western Cape.
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I agree 100%.

Also, this crap about WC not being run correctly. They know it is better than most, if not all, provinces and their responses is that is only for white people? Please they need to get of their High Horse.
 
Gaz{M} said:
The sad fact is that you need to overpromise and embellish to win elections. It is what you do afterwards that really counts. While the DA might be slowly becoming more ANC like in their policies, nobody can argue that they haven't delivered in the Western Cape. The problem isn't so much the ANC's policies - it's their leadership and rampant corruption and waste.
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Not quite. Far as I remember the DA didn't really overpromise or embellish to win CT or the WC.
 
koeksGHT said:
Voted ANC? Ha, starve while I watch eating my delicious steak dinner.

I used to give to beggars long ago but stopped, ANC supporters can starve and die!
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Yeah! The Western Cape has no beggars at all thanks to the DA!
 
R13... said:
They have a better chance of winning Gauteng than the Eastern Cape. They're 3rd in EC and second in GP, unless the Cope voters move to the DA in the EC they have no chance. I don't see why the people who voted Cope would vote for them there.
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I expect the DA to easily beat COPE in the Eastern Cape this year. Just look at EC results for the whole province in 2011 local elections:

ANC 71%
DA 16%
COPE 4%
UDM 3%

COPE has collapsed since 2009, and its voters will go in different directions, both back to ANC or to other opposition parties like DA and perhaps also EFF or Agang.
 
"The DA fails to run Western Cape and Midvaal. It is unimaginative of the DA to take over Gauteng," spokesman Dumisa Ntuli said in a statement.

Really? Midvaal is the only Municipality that isn't bankrupt then the ANC decided to merge the two bankrupt municipalities (Vanderbijlpark and Vereeniging) with Midvaal.
 
Gaz{M} said:
Promise them more than the ANC - double social grants, free houses, free electricity, free schools. I don't care. I will pay extra tax for a few years if they win.
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Thats nice, you can pay my extra portion of tax as well.

Chances I'm paying more tax to keep people who are productive and contributing to the economy in houses, with electricity etc...
 
http://www.nra.co.za/live/content.php?Item_ID=4662

It is also interesting to note that the DA controlled Cape Metro received R 1.71 billion as part of the R9 billion fuel levying sharing with metros during 2012/13 from National Treasury, yet the Cape Metro only allocated R774 million or 45% of the received fuel levy to maintenance of their existing road network. This despite the DA’s arguments of the direct link between existing fuel levy and road maintenance, SANRAL said.
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Seems the DA is so efficient it can maintain their roads in a decent condition with 45% of the fuel levying sharing money received from treasury and use the rest for other important things...
 
The DA lost Gauteng by roughly 3% last time around, and with more people pissed off at the anc than ever (and them dividing ranks to Eff-off) there is actually a very reasonable chance at a provincial victory.
 
Wow, has Mak Maharaj been giving Dumisa Ntuli some pointers on spinning bullsh*t ?Even Mak must have blushed a little when he heard Dumisa push this garbage out ;)
 
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