Article: E-tolling intended to help reduce congestion

[reactor_sa]

Every morning (from 6am to 9am) the n3 north between linksfield and modderfontein is backed up (as in avg. speed is 10kph) 95% because the trucks are overloaded and can barely make it up the hill. Its the exact same problem on the n1 north between allendale and new road. Basics like dealing with overloaded trucks would be a great place to start, and would cost us next to nothing - the metro's must put down the donuts and do something useful.

 

[Albereth]

Every morning (from 6am to 9am) the n3 north between linksfield and modderfontein is backed up (as in avg. speed is 10kph) 95% because the trucks are overloaded and can barely make it up the hill. Its the exact same problem on the n1 north between allendale and new road. Basics like dealing with overloaded trucks would be a great place to start, and would cost us next to nothing - the metro's must put down the donuts and do something useful.

We could do with a few large transportation hubs.

The issue is always going to be the last mile. A truck will be needed to take goods to its end point. But the stuff in between doesn't need to go that way. There is a chunk of space outside the cities where a train deopt could be set up. There is a container terminal in City Deep but that is too close.

Simple example - hub in Camperdown, hub in Benoni. Ship arrive in Durban. Unloaded from ship onto train. Train takes to Camperdown. Some containers split for distribution in Durban, rest get railed to Benoni. Load onto truck for delivery in Joburg area.

That solves the problem of trucks on the N3 and it will deal with some of the trucks in rush hour.

Fact is we are going to have a few around but if the rail arrivals get co-ordinated maybe we can have the deliveries at times other than rush hours.

Business does like to bitch about productivity losses from sitting in conjestion - but maybe they could come to the party and take deliveries at the 'odd' hours.

 

[reactor_sa]

We could do with a few large transportation hubs.

The issue is always going to be the last mile. A truck will be needed to take goods to its end point. But the stuff in between doesn't need to go that way. There is a chunk of space outside the cities where a train deopt could be set up. There is a container terminal in City Deep but that is too close.

Simple example - hub in Camperdown, hub in Benoni. Ship arrive in Durban. Unloaded from ship onto train. Train takes to Camperdown. Some containers split for distribution in Durban, rest get railed to Benoni. Load onto truck for delivery in Joburg area.

That solves the problem of trucks on the N3 and it will deal with some of the trucks in rush hour.

Fact is we are going to have a few around but if the rail arrivals get co-ordinated maybe we can have the deliveries at times other than rush hours.

Business does like to bitch about productivity losses from sitting in conjestion - but maybe they could come to the party and take deliveries at the 'odd' hours.

Trucks arent a problem, its businesses overloading them so they can only barely manage 20kph up hill. The minimum attainable speed limit for a vehicle on a highway should be 80kph, otherwise that vehicle should be consider unroadworthy.

 

[Sinbad]

Trucks arent a problem, its businesses overloading them so they can only barely manage 20kph up hill. The minimum attainable speed limit for a vehicle on a highway should be 80kph, otherwise that vehicle should be consider unroadworthy.

They should also issue the death sentence to truck drivers who try to race each other uphill.. Line astern, btches!

 

[Mila]

Trucks arent a problem, its businesses overloading them so they can only barely manage 20kph up hill. The minimum attainable speed limit for a vehicle on a highway should be 80kph, otherwise that vehicle should be consider unroadworthy.

They should also issue the death sentence to truck drivers who try to race each other uphill.. Line astern, btches!

Did our traffic law change?

When I did my license you were taught that the law does not allow vehicles that travel less than 100km an hour in an 120 km Zone. ( specialy highways )

And why does overloaders just get a fine and not their goods confiscated? Theft at the holding facilities?

 

[Albereth]

Trucks arent a problem, its businesses overloading them so they can only barely manage 20kph up hill. The minimum attainable speed limit for a vehicle on a highway should be 80kph, otherwise that vehicle should be consider unroadworthy.

Trucks are a problem.

However, they do get pulled over to make sure that they are not overloaded - possibly not every truck but there is an inspectorate that looks after that.

A laden truck does not accelerate well, and breaking when at speed can be a problem. The issue really comes when there is no room for cars to overtake (single lane roads) or when one truck doing 21kph tries to overtake a truck doing 20kph.

But I'd say the worst are truck drivers who overtake where it is illegal to do so - like on Van Reenen's. An accident there can stuff up a trip to the coast quite a bit.

 

[Claymore]

A laden truck does not accelerate well, and breaking when at speed can be a problem.

No kidding! Braking at speed too.

 

[Lupus]

Did our traffic law change?

When I did my license you were taught that the law does not allow vehicles that travel less than 100km an hour in an 120 km Zone. ( specialy highways )

And why does overloaders just get a fine and not their goods confiscated? Theft at the holding facilities?

The law has never been 100km minimum on the highway, it's 60km, if a vehicle cannot maintain 60km/h on the highway it's not supposed to be allowed on the highway.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Would also love to have safe, public transport to work etc.

Taxi's are just not in as I sometimes have computer equipment with me.

Sorry.

Because of that reason I will still use my car.

 

[thestaggy]

The law has never been 100km minimum on the highway, it's 60km, if a vehicle cannot maintain 60km/h on the highway it's not supposed to be allowed on the highway.

60 km/h is the minimum but that is in the slowest lane. If you are doing 60 in the middle or right-hand lane, then you need to be lobotomised.

Saying that, I would not advise someone to drive at 60 on our freeways, even in the slow lane. Accident waiting to happen.

 

[dualmeister]

"The user-pay principle is used in many cities of the world where severe traffic congestion is experienced," Motlanthe said.

Stop comparing SA to other countries! We do not have their level of public transport you twit! :erm:

 

[grok]

E-tolling might have started as intending to help reduce congestion, but then it was turned in to another flagship ANC corruption & looting ****up.

 

[hawker]

Stop comparing SA to other countries! We do not have their level of public transport you twit! :erm:

They seriously need to realise this.

They charge people that kind of money because there is a safe, affordable alternative.