Article: New DA pamphlet angers ANC

Fudzy said:
Weren't they both ANC members?

EDIT: Stand corrected, she was a member of the Progressive Party.
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She was one of the founders of the PP.

When I go for leadership courses, Helen Suzman plays a big part in the history of the DA. It is where a large part of our liberal principals have come from. Also, her dog bit Margret Thatchers ankle. That is a cool dog :D
 
deni-do said:
I don't see a problem with the poster. I agree that the DA needs to change its image, because right now they are still seen as the "oppressors". I do however think that using Helen Suzman can be detrimental to them. Was she not quoted as saying something along the lines of hating the Afrikaners, their language, their ways and ofcourse their politics.
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In my perspective I do not see the DA as any “oppressors”, but the ANC do establish that image by propaganda, which is easy since the people believe in their high ranking comrades.

The poor blacks I have had little conversation with is by no means worried about our Treasury being “openly available” as they also believe that those people deserve being enriched due to the whole Freedom aspect, the ones who rescued them during apartheid and bringing an end to the “oppressors”, but this opinion depends on culture, class, language and upbringing, the whole demographics.

A very well-known propaganda term in SA, now used regularly is, “blame apartheid” and it’s various forms.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
A very well-known propaganda term in SA, now used regularly is, “blame apartheid” and it’s various forms.
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I think it is as abused almost as often as "pretend apartheid was not all that bad"
 
STS said:
The question is, why didn't they use this marketing years ago when Zuma was up for election? ;) they may as well advertise "Suzman would have wanted to stop Zuma!"

Don't get me wrong, I remember seeing ANC banners advertising "Ghandi would have voted for the ANC if he was alive today" which I thought was quite arrogant, but there is no doubt that the DA is also being opportunistic. In fact the thing that annoys me about the DA the most is that it makes the most of publicity stunts like marching to Zuma's house, offering to deliver textbooks when the ANC can't, sneaking Mandela onto pamphlets, etc.

how about they focus on the here and now and rather than shortcomings of each other, what they can do better for the country
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You mean like offering to deliver textbooks so learners can learn?
 
ghoti said:
I think it is as abused almost as often as "pretend apartheid was not all that bad"
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True, then again I blame everything on education. Education will bring a positive perspective to SA; people will also be able to give their “own” valid opinion and action. Even the Unions acts like a beehive today, the drones keep on doing as ordered and this is slowly becoming a natural behavioural nature.

“Monkey see, monkey do” and mimicry (on an attitude perspective) is not working in SA…
 
What the DA is doing is at odds with their support base which calls for history to be forgotten, or at least the unpalatable of it.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
True, then again I blame everything on education. Education will bring a positive perspective to SA; people will also be able to give their “own” valid opinion and action.
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I agree. Education is key. For instance, we are paying the price for the Bantu education Act (which our current leaders were educated under).
 
The problem with the DA is, they can't capitalise on the weaknesses of the ruling party. Now they have joined the "I fought apartheid and I deserve votes" train. IMO we need an opposition which will not obsess about the ANC, Apartheid legacy but one that will move the country forward. Arguing about who fought what is not relevant as apartheid is neither here nor there. Poverty, poor education and service delivery issues are the new apartheid.
 
Mbuzi said:
The problem with the DA is, they can't capitalise on the weaknesses of the ruling party. Now they have joined the "I fought apartheid and I deserve votes" train. IMO we need an opposition which will not obsess about the ANC, Apartheid legacy but one that will move the country forward. Arguing about who fought what is not relevant as apartheid is neither here nor there. Poverty, poor education and service delivery issues are the new apartheid.
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Where the DA govern, they govern well. Where they are the opposition. They oppose well. To tell me we need an opposition who does not obsess over what the ANC does wrong is a very silly statement. IT IS THEIR JOB TO HIGHLIGHT the mistakes the ANC makes (in areas they dont govern). Its not like they can implement policies. The word "opposition" means to "oppose".

The DA are opposing the poor education, poor service delivery. Every year, every month, every week and every day. This is just one campaign amongst thousands (on national, provincial and local levels). What you are proving is that no matter how much they oppose bad education and poor service delivery. You still wont notice either way.

Now the ANC are trying to brand with DA are a racist whites only party (which I havent seen a single complaint from you about). But when they do defend their history then all of a sudden you have a complaint? Pffff
 
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saksakgp said:
What the DA is doing is at odds with their support base which calls for history to be forgotten, or at least the unpalatable of it.
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What support base would that be? :confused: I know of no part of its support base that calls for history to be forgotten. Could you back up this statement please.
 
STS;10187655 In fact the thing that annoys me about the DA the most is that it makes the most of publicity stunts like marching to Zuma's house said:
I disagree with this. It is the DA's job, as formal opposition to the ruling party, to show up the faults of the ANC. It is their job to be the "Jack Russell" of the political structure. They need to make a noise, and get the public involved whenever and wherever the ANC fail (which is all the time). Without this approach, the country will fall further into abyss. Delivering text books to the children who never received them from DOE, was EXCELLENT - it made the ANC realise where they were failing and to what extent. It was an embarrassment to the ANC, which is a good thing....they will think twice about failing in this area again.

Regarding the picture....the ANC realise it could change the minds of the majority black voters next year - those that are fence sitters, and this is why they are having a wobble. A picture speaks a thousand words, the context of the picture happened, and the ANC need to understand that.
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surfs-up said:
I disagree with this. It is the DA's job, as formal opposition to the ruling party, to show up the faults of the ANC. It is their job to be the "Jack Russell" of the political structure. They need to make a noise, and get the public involved whenever and wherever the ANC fail (which is all the time). Without this approach, the country will fall further into abyss. Delivering text books to the children who never received them from DOE, was EXCELLENT - it made the ANC realise where they were failing and to what extent. It was an embarrassment to the ANC, which is a good thing....they will think twice about failing in this area again.

Regarding the picture....the ANC realise it could change the minds of the majority black voters next year - those that are fence sitters, and this is why they are having a wobble. A picture speaks a thousand words, the context of the picture happened, and the ANC need to understand that.
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Thank you. Someone else on the forum who understands the term "opposition". The job of the opposition is to bring attention to every mistake the governing party makes in every way their LIMITED powers enable them to.

If they were the governing party they would be making policy to make our country better, but if they are not the governing power they have little to no authority. People dont get this.
 
Qwikslver said:
You mean like offering to deliver textbooks so learners can learn?
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difference between offering to deliver textbooks and putting the ANC in a position that no matter what they choose to do, they'll look bad. all they did was piss off the ANC and the kids still didn't get their textbooks. every situation the DA wins, the ANC loses and the kids were already losing out to start with.

the DA does govern very well, in fact excellently, but i won't tolerate sneaky propaganda from any party
 
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