Article: New smoking rules not well received

If you want to kill yourself do it at home.
If you want to have an opinion on this. Do it at home.

I hope you see what Im trying to do here - Your fascist desire to control other people means nothing. Im asking for fairness. IE, have smoking and non-smoking restaurants and let people decide. You dont wanna even give people that option. Hectic how much you wanna control other people! Who you ganna go after once you have subverted the smokers? No booze in restaurants? :)
 
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This was frowned upon at Liberty,had to check out using specific codes dependant on what you were doing if you left your desk,nonsmokers couldn't use the "smoke break" code

Must suck to work there, there's more a Google office vibe where I work. :D
 
If you want to have an opinion on this. Do it at home.

I hope you see what Im trying to do here - Your fascist desire to control other people means nothing. Im asking for fairness. IE, have smoking and non-smoking restaurants and let people decide. You dont wanna even give people that option. Hectic how much you wanna control other people! Who you ganna go after once you have subverted the smokers? No booze in restaurants? :)

Lived in California for quite a bit and never noticed "smoking restaurants". The proposed legislation is pretty standard all over the developed world.

It is a rare pleasure going to a bar or club in the States and not coming back smelling like a cigarette factory. I fully support the legislation. By all means smoke, but if I have to smell or inhale any of that smoke in a communal place then that is NOT acceptable. Second hand smoke is just as dangerous if not more than first hand.
 
That said I have a problem that my coworkers that smoke are by law allowed to take breaks to do it outside while us nonsmokers have to sit and work

You are permitted teabreaks. No one stops you from leaving your desk for that.
 
Lived in California for quite a bit and never noticed "smoking restaurants". The proposed legislation is pretty standard all over the developed world.

It is a rare pleasure going to a bar or club in the States and not coming back smelling like a cigarette factory. I fully support the legislation. By all means smoke, but if I have to smell or inhale any of that smoke in a communal place then that is NOT acceptable. Second hand smoke is just as dangerous if not more than first hand.

No, what's not acceptable is forcing restaurant and pub owners to discriminate against smokers. If there was any fairness to any of this there would be smoking pubs or non smoking pubs or pubs with smoking areas and we'd all have the choice as consenting adults to choose where to go.
 
If you want to have an opinion on this. Do it at home.

I hope you see what Im trying to do here - Your fascist desire to control other people means nothing. Im asking for fairness. IE, have smoking and non-smoking restaurants and let people decide. You dont wanna even give people that option. Hectic how much you wanna control other people! Who you ganna go after once you have subverted the smokers? No booze in restaurants? :)

I could ask you the same thing though. Do you want weed to legalized? How about heroine?
 
No, what's not acceptable is forcing restaurant and pub owners to discriminate against smokers. If there was any fairness to any of this there would be smoking pubs or non smoking pubs or pubs with smoking areas and we'd all have the choice as consenting adults to choose where to go.

So as consenting adults we have the option to choose to smoke marijuana and snort cocaine?
 
i am a smoker but don't smoke in my car or house.

i agree no smoking in public areas. i don't want to inhale second hand smoke. i smoke away from other people. i also do not drop my cigarette butt on the floor. i squish it out and make sure i put it in a bin. i can't stand it when smokers do this, they just drop their cigarette butts on the floor. if i go to a restaurant where there is a smoking or non smoking area, i always choose the non smoking area. i don't want to smell of cigarette smoke. i smoke vogue slims, very mild cigarettes.
 
If you want to have an opinion on this. Do it at home.

I hope you see what Im trying to do here - Your fascist desire to control other people means nothing. Im asking for fairness. IE, have smoking and non-smoking restaurants and let people decide. You dont wanna even give people that option. Hectic how much you wanna control other people! Who you ganna go after once you have subverted the smokers? No booze in restaurants? :)
A buddy and I were actually discussing smoking-only restaurants, where non-smokers were not welcome. I imagine they'd cry discrimination then.

Anyway I'm not sure how they can classify restaurants, pubs and bars as "public spaces" - surely it is private property and therefore any smoking rules is at the owner's discretion?
this is awesome.

hopefully over time smoking will vanish from society
Because look how well that turned out with drugs. Banning something doesn't make it go away, it just introduces further criminal elements.
 
People still insist on smoking?

It costs a lot of money
It's a pain with all the laws
You get triple taxed on the stuff
It's dangerous to not only your health but those around you (anyone have children?).

Nothing makes you appreciate smoke free zones more than when struggling with throat cancer.
 
The day I see a smoker give a fsck about MY health is the day i'll give a fsck about them.

But the thing is, how can they care about anyone else when they dont care about themselves?
 
The day I see a smoker give a fsck about MY health is the day i'll give a fsck about them.

But the thing is, how can they care about anyone else when they dont care about themselves?
Amen. And I also appreciate considerate smokers like Celine.
 
I have no problem with smokers in Restaurants with smoking sections

That said I have a problem that my coworkers that smoke are by law allowed to take breaks to do it outside while us nonsmokers have to sit and work

We have wonderful balconies with benches, but non smokers cannot sit there because the smokers are constantly polluting the air and the smell from the ashtray is REVOLTING.

Yes I am an ex smoker. ;)
 
The day I see a smoker give a fsck about MY health is the day i'll give a fsck about them.

But the thing is, how can they care about anyone else when they dont care about themselves?

How does a smoker smoking in a smoking area impact your health when you are more than welcome in a non-smoking area?

I know people that smoke that are very considerate, they go outside to smoke, even outside they don't smoke near people, they don't smoke in their own houses, cars or near their kids.
 
I could ask you the same thing though. Do you want weed to legalized? How about heroine?

Weed yes, heroine no, but I am not convinced that prohibition is working.

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The day I see a smoker give a fsck about MY health is the day i'll give a fsck about them.

But the thing is, how can they care about anyone else when they dont care about themselves?

How is your health affected in a designated smoking area? Are you being forced sit there?
 
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