Article: Outrage over Malema calling Indians "coolies"

Cloudster said:
haha, I'm just giving you a hard time bud.

I agree with your post, I call every race racist names (including my own) when they act like C to the UNTS
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I call white people k@ffer when they act like c unts.
You should see the look on a boer's face when you call him a k@fer
 
if this bastard didn't use the term, we wouldn't have been having this discussion.

if its possible that a term is offensive, then dont use it, especially if you're a person who speaks in public and your words have consequences.
oh wait, it doesn't apply to ANC politicians, they can say what they want and keep their position.

i just remember a guy in PE's army who said 'this is BS' during a speech made by someone who isn't the same colour as himself. he was immediately kicked out, and lambasted as the biggest racist ever.

racism is a one way road, and only ANCs can play the card and ride the road
 
Much as I find Malema odious, one has to be fair, otherwise we lose credibility when he deserves criticism (which is often).

Look at the context in which he used the term. He was apparently saying that Black kids must be allowed to go to school with Coolie kids (ie SA Indians). If he meant this in a derogatory way, as a slur to denigrate SA Indians, then why does he want Black kids with them at their schools? I think in this case he was using the term without intending a slur. Gross, yes. Insensitive, yes. Ignorant, yes. Impolite, yes. Crude, yes. Deserving of censure? Perhaps, because those in leadership positions should evince greater sensitivity and elegance in their public utterances.

Rather than froth away as if this is as serious as calling a black person that Arabic word, we should shake our heads, wag our fingers, but please don't make such a big deal of it that these words get banned. We have banned too many things already. Let's not fall into the trap of ever-more censoriousness, where all speech must be PC. We need more liberty, not more control. Malema is an enemy because he wants more state control. I don't want to play into his hands.
 
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Nerfherder said:
Coolie was used during British colonial times as a word to describe the guys who waved the fans to keep the masters cool.

It is highly offensive... just like you wont use the k-work here you wont use coolie in India.

I'm pretty sure Makula is derived from coolie
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That would be a punkahwallah.
 
Arthur said:
Much as I find Malema odious, one has to be fair, otherwise we lose credibility when he deserves criticism (which is often).

Look at the context in which he used the term. He was apparently saying that Black kids must be allowed to go to school with Coolie kids (ie SA Indians). If he meant this in a derogatory way, as a slur to denigrate SA Indians, then why does he want Black kids with them at their schools? I think in this case he was using the term without intending a slur. Gross, yes. Insensitive, yes. Ignorant, yes. Impolite, yes. Crude, yes. Deserving of censure? Perhaps, because those in leadership positions should evince greater sensitivity and elegance in their public utterances.

Rather than froth away as if this is as serious as calling a black person that Arabic word, we should shake our heads, wag our fingers, but please don't make such a big deal of it that these words get banned. We have banned too many things already. Let's not fall into the trap of ever-more censoriousness, where all speech must be PC. We need more liberty, not more control. Malema is an enemy because he wants more state control. I don't want to play into his hands.
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Indian folk value a good education and run 'their' schools appropriately. In typical Malema fashion he suggests that his followers should 'take' the places at the 'Indian' school because Indians are lower than blacks. No build, just take.
 
Nerfherder said:
Coolie was used during British colonial times as a word to describe the guys who waved the fans to keep the masters cool.

It is highly offensive... just like you wont use the k-work here you wont use coolie in India.

I'm pretty sure Makula is derived from coolie
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Not true. The word coolie is perfectly normal in India. It just means a labourer. If you are at any of the railway stations you would call a coolie to help you with your bags. Its only in South Africa that the word has a negative connotation just like the K word which means a non believer and is only a derogatory word in SA.
 
keru said:
Not true. The word coolie is perfectly normal in India. It just means a labourer. If you are at any of the railway stations you would call a coolie to help you with your bags. Its only in South Africa that the word has a negative connotation just like the K word which means a non believer and is only a derogatory word in SA.
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While the word definitely has negative racial connotations in South Africa, it is also used in a dergatory way around the world, but not everywhere.

In Thai, kuli (กุลี) still retains its original meaning as manual labourers, but is considered to be offensive.[citation needed]
In September 2005 the Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra of Thailand, used this term when referring to the laborers who built the new international airport. He thanked them for their hard work. Reuters, a news source from Bangkok, reported of angry Thai labor groups over his use of the term.[12]
The word qūlī is now commonly used in Hindi to refer to luggage porters at hotel lobbies and railway and bus stations. Nevertheless, the use of such (especially by foreigners) may still be regarded as a slur by some.[13]
In Ethiopia, Cooli is a term that refers to those who carry heavy loads for someone. The word is not used as a slur however. The term used to describe Arab day-laborers who migrated to Ethiopia for labor work.[citation needed]
The Dutch word koelie, refers to a worker who performs very hard, exacting labour. The word generally has no particular ethnic connotations among the Dutch, but is used as a slur amongst Surinamese to designate Hindoestanen.[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolie
 
Vegeta said:
You should see the look on a boer's face when you call him a k@fer
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If you would call me a ****** I would burst into laughing uncontrollabily. So yea, I think what you say is true. :D
 
Schavuit said:
If you would call me a ****** I would burst into laughing uncontrollabily. So yea, I think what you say is true. :D
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I don't just say it to random people. I only say it when you do something really rude and you know it like lets say you bump a lady out of the way i would say: "Jy jou onbeskofte k... moenie soos 'n vark aangaan nie!"
 
Daddy, daddy cool.
Daddy, daddy cool.
Daddy, daddy cool.
 
When I was smaller I grew up talking about the Koeliemark, where you could buy stuff at discount, I only found out a few years ago that it was derogative.

It is like the word "kleurling", if you read that Afrikaans newspapers then many of the coloureds would like to be refered to as 'bruinmense'. Who am I to judge.
 
Nicodeamus said:
It is like the word "kleurling", if you read that Afrikaans newspapers then many of the coloureds would like to be refered to as 'bruinmense'. Who am I to judge.
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It's much worse than kleurling, it's more like the k-word.

The "coloureds" may not like "kleurling", but it's not really an insult. The c-word and the k-word are insults.
 
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