Article: Pass black matrics, asks SADTU KZN

UnUnOctium said:
On a note: The points don't matter as each university has their own scoring method, but the actual matric marks should be the same.
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That I see. I think PTA does not publish the minimum so openly ( it seems ) But it might just be on a differnt place.

But thanx for the info.
:)
( no sarcasm )
 
Ok, so they comply and do this.

Then those kids go to college, and expect the same treatment.

What then?

Then you'll be best off going overseas for your studies where the standards are high and not as watered down here.
 
The_Librarian said:
Ok, so they comply and do this.

Then those kids go to college, and expect the same treatment.

What then?

Then you'll be best off going overseas for your studies where the standards are high and not as watered down here.
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That's the great thing about this country, sure they demand, then the universities tell them to go stuff it (the major ones anyways). The university quality here is definitely on par with international (and UCT being a great example) standards. The problem lies in the fact that the dumb masses vote for the idiot who got in, failed their ass off and joined the ANCYL (just before getting kicked out of the university) instead of the people who actually worked hard, passed and know how to solve issues instead of pocketing money.
 
UnUnOctium said:
That's the great thing about this country, sure they demand, then the universities tell them to go stuff it (the major ones anyways). The university quality here is definitely on par with international (and UCT being a great example) standards. The problem lies in the fact that the dumb masses vote for the idiot who got in, failed their ass off and joined the ANCYL (just before getting kicked out of the university) instead of the people who actually worked hard, passed and know how to solve issues instead of pocketing money.
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Indeed. It's like this article I've just read (except of course Oxford and Cambridge don't let anyone in who isn't capable of finishing the degree unlike here where universities are happy to take your money knowing that statistically speaking, one will probably drop-out)

A bleak portrait of racial and social exclusion at Oxford and Cambridge has been shown in official data which shows that more than 20 Oxbridge colleges made no offers to black candidates for undergraduate courses last year and one Oxford college has not admitted a single black student in five years.

The university's admissions data confirms that only one black Briton of Caribbean descent was accepted for undergraduate study at Oxford last year.

Figures revealed in requests made under the Freedom of Information (FoI) Act by the Labour MP David Lammy also show that Oxford's social profile is 89% upper- and middle-class, while 87.6% of the Cambridge student body is drawn from the top three socioeconomic groups. The average for British universities is 64.5%, according to the admissions body Ucas.

The FoI data also shows that of more than 1,500 academic and lab staff at Cambridge, none are black. Thirty-four are of British Asian origin.

One Oxford college, Merton, has admitted no black students in five years – and just three in the last decade. Eleven Oxford colleges and 10 Cambridge colleges made no offers to black students for the academic year beginning autumn 2009.

Oxford's breakdown of its latest undergraduate admissions figures, published on its website, shows that just one black Caribbean student was accepted in 2009, out of 35 applications.

A total of 77 students of Indian descent were accepted, out of 466 applications. Six black Caribbean undergraduates were accepted at Cambridge the same year.

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In 2009, more than 29,000 white students got three As or better at A-level (excluding general studies) and about 28.4% applied to Oxford; while 452 black students got three As or better, and nearly half applied to Oxford. A spokeswoman for Oxford said: "Black students apply disproportionately for the most oversubscribed subjects, contributing to a lower than average success rate for the group as a whole: 44% of all black applicants apply for Oxford's three most oversubscribed subjects, compared with just 17% of all white applicants. That means nearly half of black applicants are applying for the same three subjects … the three toughest subjects to get places in. Those subjects are economics and management, medicine, and maths.with 7% of white applicants. This goes a very long way towards explaining the group's overall lower success rate."
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