Article: Stop blaming apartheid: Trevor Manuel

[saksakgp]

The constitution starts off with a preamble that says " We, the people of South Africa,Recognise the injustices of our past..."

If Trevor is serious then he should push for an amendment of this reminder.

But in truth everywhere I look I recognise the effects of the injustice of our past. There is a thread about white males in Gauteng earning tops. That's an effect of the injustice of our past which I am forced to recognise.

 

[OzzieCapie]

Gosh, you guys talk about him like he had nothing to do with the ANC for the last 20 years.
Question - has the ANC done a terrible job at running the country over the last +- 20 years?
Question - has Trevor Manual been an integral part of the ANC over the last 20 years, as a member of the NEC, it's highest ranking decision making body, a representative in parliament and an ANC minister?

Hint: the answer to both questions is 'yes'

Though in his role as Finance Minister he was globally regarded as doing a great job, to the extent that he had opportunities to get international roles.

He isn't the right tone for ANC leadership though...let's face that.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

The constitution starts off with a preamble that says " We, the people of South Africa,Recognise the injustices of our past..."

If Trevor is serious then he should push for an amendment of this reminder.

But in truth everywhere I look I recognise the effects of the injustice of our past. There is a thread about white males in Gauteng earning tops. That's an effect of the injustice of our past which I am forced to recognise.

He didn't say forget the injustices of the past, he said stop blaming the past for the current government's failures.

 

[STS]

I'm disppointed he hasn't been fired.

Because just like Marinus van Schalkwayk walked over to the other side ... just so would I appreciate him walking over to our side.

he will always be an ANC supporter

 

[Sinbad]

he will always be an ANC supporter

I dunno, I can foresee him moving to Agang...

 

[STS]

I dunno, I can foresee him moving to Agang...

i can forsee Agang being another COPE

 

[Sinbad]

i can forsee Agang being another COPE

I don't think so. Remember COPE was started by a bunch of politically irrelevant hasbeens who had no clear vision apart from perpetuating their own power.

 

[STS]

I don't think so. Remember COPE was started by a bunch of politically irrelevant hasbeens who had no clear vision apart from perpetuating their own power.

you know that, i know that, the average voter doesn't. hopefully Agang can steal some votes away from the ANC rather than the DA

 

[Eager Chinchilla]

you know that, i know that, the average voter doesn't. hopefully Agang can steal some votes away from the DA rather than the ANC

Fixed.

 

[TheRidDlerX]

Zuma started this new 'Stop blaming apartheid' trend - if you ask me he is softening up people for coming elections.

 

[Sinbad]

Zuma started this new 'Stop blaming apartheid' trend - if you ask me he is softening up people for coming elections.

No. He said people should stop in 2010 but since then has blamed apartheid left right and centre. That's not what I call starting a trend.

 

[Wyzak]

After reading this and obviously agreeing with Trevor Manuel, I can't help but think that his political career is over. He will be sidelined shortly. One simply does not criticize the king.

 

[Eager Chinchilla]

Zuma started this new 'Stop blaming apartheid' trend - if you ask me he is softening up people for coming elections.

He is softening up DA voters....

 

[STS]

Fixed.

DA voters know that the DA has been gaining momentum and that it would be stupid to stop now

 

[Picard]

After reading this and obviously agreeing with Trevor Manuel, I can't help but think that his political career is over. He will be sidelined shortly. One simply does not criticize the king.

 

[Sherbang]

Surprised he hasn't been fired

Though in his role as Finance Minister he was globally regarded as doing a great job, to the extent that he had opportunities to get international roles.

He isn't the right tone for ANC leadership though...let's face that.

Zuma started this new 'Stop blaming apartheid' trend - if you ask me he is softening up people for coming elections.

After reading this and obviously agreeing with Trevor Manuel, I can't help but think that his political career is over. He will be sidelined shortly. One simply does not criticize the king.

This idea that Manual is somehow speaking out in disagreement with his party is nonsense - it's obviously been discussed at ANC meetings and it's been decided by the ANC that this is the line they will push as part of a strategy to win back disillusioned (white) voters. This is why both Zuma and Manual have stated it - it's policy. Far from being a lone voice in the wilderness, Manual it towing the party line - he will always support the ANC, it's part of who he is, an organisation he has helped forge and dedicated his life to.

 

[Sinbad]

This idea that Manual is somehow speaking out in disagreement with his party is nonsense - it's obviously been discussed at ANC meetings and it's been decided by the ANC that this is the line they will push as part of a strategy to win back disillusioned (white) voters. This is why both Zuma and Manual have stated it - it's policy. Far from being a lone voice in the wilderness, Manual it towing the party line - he will always support the ANC, it's part of who he is, an organisation he has helped forge and dedicated his life to.

Zuma stated in 2010 and since then has repeatedly gone against this - so it can't be policy.

 

[Zenbaas]

Trevor for the leadership of the DA ... FTW!!!

He is too white....

 

[marine1]

He can say what he likes I will NEVER vote ANC......

 

[Sherbang]

That's not what he said a couple of weeks ago...

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/apartheid-legacy-hampering-delivery-zuma-1.1380126#.UVxyk50aySM

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/03/08/apartheid-to-blame---zuma


Does this useless ****er even understand the words that ooze out of his mouth?

No. He said people should stop in 2010 but since then has blamed apartheid left right and centre. That's not what I call starting a trend.

Zuma stated in 2010 and since then has repeatedly gone against this - so it can't be policy.

I disagree - He said you cannot blame apartheid for the failures of the current government.
This does not mean apartheid is blameless in creating the country we have today, you can't just make the legacy apartheid left behind disappear. So, when Zuma asserts that the violence that is so much a part of of lives today is rooted in apartheid, I'm inclined to agree with him. When he asserts that municipalities in formerly white-only areas have well-developed services and infrastructure, while underdeveloped townships and rural areas, which were deliberately deprived of resources during apartheid, do not have access to the required administrative, financial and technical capacity to function efficiently and effectively today - I'm inclined to agree with him. You cannot blame the failures of the ANC government on apartheid - we all agree on that, but you can't ignore the ongoing effects of apartheid either and pretend that the country we live in today was not born out of it.