Article: TB Joshua Visa debate

My children would say similar things after a night out to a magic show. He doesn't do miracles, he does magic. He is not a healer, he is a performer. All of them are like that, from Benny Hinn to Chris Oyakhilome to William Branham who started this whole nonsense.

If he performs miracles, let him resurrect those who died in the building. Let him go to the hospital and heal those who survived. Why isn't he doing it? Because he knows he's a fake, a magician, and a scum on top of it.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you, the guy is a con man.

But the reasons for your insistence is uncomforting and illustrates perfectly why we have so many people killing others in the name of one God or another.

So many deaths and horror because everyone is insisting he is right and subsequently have no time or patience to listen to the other one, who oddly enough is also 100% correct.

Pathetic. I've got a feeling Jesus would be disgusted if he was around to witness what was happening in his name.
 
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you, the guy is a con man.

But the reasons for your insistence is uncomforting and illustrates perfectly why we have so many people killing others in the name of one God or another.

So many deaths and horror because everyone is insisting he is right and subsequently have no time or patience to listen to the other one, who oddly enough is also 100% correct.

Pathetic. I've got a feeling Jesus would be disgusted if he was around to witness what was happening in his name.

In Matthew 7:15-23 Jesus prophecied about people like TB Joshua, who do things in His name but are not legitimate, so Jesus was already disgusted by the things that will happen. Many people I discuss this things with always complain that "I'm judgemental" but I always tell them to use the internet to see the things being done by these guys. This guy was exposed decades ago, and his fake healings have been exposed by celebrities in South Africa who went to see him. (all this is on the internet).

I will tell you one thing - most of these guys on TBN, GodTV, Daystar, EmmanuelTV, etv on sunday mornings, etc are fakes who have been exposed many times before. They are not Christians, but they use the christian name to advance themselves. The problem comes when their followers ignore warnings and subject us to abuse for warning them. The things these fakes do are shocking, and there's nothing on earth that makes me angry that these fakes. How they abuse their followers is heart breaking, and I can't be quite about this.

I was at FNB stadium last year when Chris Oyakhilome was purpotely healing people, and if you saw what I saw afterwards you will have been more angry than I was. I personally spoke to people who were sick and dying yet most of them were hypnotised into thinking they were healed. That is something that shouldn't be tolerated. This is why Elijah in the book of 1 Kings took a sword and killed 50 false prophets. People like TB Joshua deserve the death penalty, and I will gladly chop his head off if I was given a chance.
 
In Matthew 7:15-23 Jesus prophecied about people like TB Joshua, who do things in His name but are not legitimate

How about yourself - what if you preach something that is 'not legitimate' ?
 
From his wikipedia entry:
"According to Joshua’s official biography, unusual circumstances surrounded his birth. It is he spent 15 months in his mother’s womb."

Dafuq?! :wtf:

Madness
 
In Matthew 7:15-23 Jesus prophecied about people like TB Joshua, who do things in His name but are not legitimate, so Jesus was already disgusted by the things that will happen. Many people I discuss this things with always complain that "I'm judgemental" but I always tell them to use the internet to see the things being done by these guys. This guy was exposed decades ago, and his fake healings have been exposed by celebrities in South Africa who went to see him. (all this is on the internet).

I will tell you one thing - most of these guys on TBN, GodTV, Daystar, EmmanuelTV, etv on sunday mornings, etc are fakes who have been exposed many times before. They are not Christians, but they use the christian name to advance themselves. The problem comes when their followers ignore warnings and subject us to abuse for warning them. The things these fakes do are shocking, and there's nothing on earth that makes me angry that these fakes. How they abuse their followers is heart breaking, and I can't be quite about this.

I was at FNB stadium last year when Chris Oyakhilome was purpotely healing people, and if you saw what I saw afterwards you will have been more angry than I was. I personally spoke to people who were sick and dying yet most of them were hypnotised into thinking they were healed. That is something that shouldn't be tolerated. This is why Elijah in the book of 1 Kings took a sword and killed 50 false prophets. People like TB Joshua deserve the death penalty, and I will gladly chop his head off if I was given a chance.


Wow! And I thought Jesus taught love. You certainly make a fantastic argument for atheism.
 
This is why Elijah in the book of 1 Kings took a sword and killed 50 false prophets. People like TB Joshua deserve the death penalty, and I will gladly chop his head off if I was given a chance.

Sounds no different to ISIS.
 
Wow! And I thought Jesus taught love. You certainly make a fantastic argument for atheism.

You thought wrong. He taught love, grace, mercy, righteousness, justice, and judgement. You can't be a Christian unless God draws you to Christ.
 
Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Throwing a stone to his head, picking up another one, and another, until he's dead. Why? Because my sins are blotted out. I have no sins whatsoever!
 

John 8:9 if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

My sins have been cleansed, so I have none, zero. Picking up a bigger stone.
 
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Exodus 20:13

Deuteronomy 18:20
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.

Back in the days TB Joshua would have died in a pile of stones, and I would have thrown a lot of those.
 
Exodus 35:15

Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death

So why are you not stoning everyone who works on a Saturday ?

Deuteronomy

Why are you not stoning to death any divorced and remarried person ?
 
These also demand the death penalty -

Exodus 21:15
And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

Exodus 21:16
And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

Exodus 21:17
And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

If you are not obeying God's laws is that not a sin ?
 
John 11:35


But more to the point, does anyone have a link to video of the "aircraft" that "flew" above the building shortly before collapse?
 
God speaks through the bible, and the bible is clear that TB Joshua is a false prophet, who should be stoned to death.
Lol on what page does the bible reference TB Joshua?

Probably the same page the NG Kerk used to use to justify racism?
 
Deuteronomy 18:20
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.

Back in the days TB Joshua would have died in a pile of stones, and I would have thrown a lot of those.
So how do you know God did not command him to say what he says?
 
John 8:9 if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

My sins have been cleansed, so I have none, zero. Picking up a bigger stone.

What a creep, proclaiming your own supposed faith & subsequent 'holyness' in a topic relating to false christians. I'll bet good money when asked TBJ would have EXACTLY the same attitude about his relationship with god, as well as his innocence.

No wonder religious people are so hated nowadays, falses on the one side and egotistical narcissists on the other.
 
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