Atos eating front tyres.

My Atos just on 60,000. Original tyres lasted 58,000 travelling all over SA. Were only slightly smooth but with summer rains coming.....
 
At the dealer now. They are sending it in for a full report on suspension, shocks etc.
 
InternetSwag said:
Keep us updated, this is very interesting.
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Just called them.
All they found was that the tyres were a bit flat (so far).
I will be getting a full report tonight, I'll post it here when I get it.

Kept telling me "I don't know what to say" during the conversation. This does not bode well.
 
ponder said:
Sigh, they are not the people to take it to imho.
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I'll post the report tomorrow. Been advised as to where the car should be taken by a friend in the business so doing that tomorrow as well.
 
AstroTurf said:
Just called them.
All they found was that the tyres were a bit flat (so far).
I will be getting a full report tonight, I'll post it here when I get it.

Kept telling me "I don't know what to say" during the conversation. This does not bode well.
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Ja, that's what I got told too. Lot of stories. Then they fix it and 3 months later I notice it was never fixed. I tell you, it's a fault on the Atos design or something.
 
beans100 said:
Ja, that's what I got told too. Lot of stories. Then they fix it and 3 months later I notice it was never fixed. I tell you, it's a fault on the Atos design or something.
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He did say that they notice it alot on the cars.

A buddy of mine reckons same was happening to his mom's atos. He had the wheel alignment done at a place in pta north and now it's sorted so I'll take it there today.
 
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It's getting some new tyres as we speak.
I want to take it for alignment + balance after so if anyone has any suggestions or advice before I do so...
 
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AstroTurf said:
Kept telling me "I don't know what to say" during the conversation. This does not bode well.
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Like I said take it to a suspension place.

Not any quick fit tires and shocks, that do alignment on the side.

Dealership mechies fix engine problems and change oil. THAT is the limit of their skill.

Suspension and gearbox/diff issues are MOSTLY farmed out to specialists.

I do alot of work on my cars, including building engines and gearboxes. But for the suspension work, I take it to
Cafe9.

Try these guys.

SHOX & SUSPENSION CENTRE

61 Frere St Randburg 2194
011 781 0326
 
I'd say the problem is with your right rear camber. Not only is it out of spec, but it's way off compared to the left (which is actually more important than the actual value).

I think that the rear wheels will be pushing the car sideways, and the front are wearing trying to keep it straight. Your toe was slightly out, but not enough to explain the tyre wear (in my opinion).

If you want that adjusted, you'll need a specialist suspension place or a really good panel beater (but most panel beaters use a suspension place for that kind of work). Many years ago, when I still lived in Jo'burg, Van Zyl's Spring works was the place to go, but I'm afraid I don't have anything further to recommend.

To nitpick, if it were my car, I'd prefer the front cambers to be closer to each other, but I know most places (those that will set your camber) like to increase the one side a bit to compensate for the crown in the road. It's one of those apple/android arguments - passionate but probably makes little practical difference.
 
Colin62 said:
I'd say the problem is with your right rear camber. Not only is it out of spec, but it's way off compared to the left (which is actually more important than the actual value).

I think that the rear wheels will be pushing the car sideways, and the front are wearing trying to keep it straight. Your toe was slightly out, but not enough to explain the tyre wear (in my opinion).

If you want that adjusted, you'll need a specialist suspension place or a really good panel beater (but most panel beaters use a suspension place for that kind of work). Many years ago, when I still lived in Jo'burg, Van Zyl's Spring works was the place to go, but I'm afraid I don't have anything further to recommend.

To nitpick, if it were my car, I'd prefer the front cambers to be closer to each other, but I know most places (those that will set your camber) like a increase the one side a bit to compensate for the crown in the road. It's on of those apple/android arguments - passionate but probably makes no practical difference.
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It's getting alignment done now.
I'm going to upload the 2n'd report as well (this time from speedy) and then research into specialists before getting it sorted once and for all.
 
Colin62 said:
I'd say the problem is with your right rear camber. Not only is it out of spec, but it's way off compared to the left (which is actually more important than the actual value).

I think that the rear wheels will be pushing the car sideways, and the front are wearing trying to keep it straight. Your toe was slightly out, but not enough to explain the tyre wear (in my opinion).

If you want that adjusted, you'll need a specialist suspension place or a really good panel beater (but most panel beaters use a suspension place for that kind of work). Many years ago, when I still lived in Jo'burg, Van Zyl's Spring works was the place to go, but I'm afraid I don't have anything further to recommend.

To nitpick, if it were my car, I'd prefer the front cambers to be closer to each other, but I know most places (those that will set your camber) like to increase the one side a bit to compensate for the crown in the road. It's one of those apple/android arguments - passionate but probably makes little practical difference.
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Camber doesn't push the car sideways.

I'm more inclined to say it's the tyre pressure. Should be checked at every fillup.
 
Sinbad said:
Camber doesn't push the car sideways.

I'm more inclined to say it's the tyre pressure. Should be checked at every fillup.
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I'm taking my compressor down to the garage and checking it myself once a week from now on out.
Usually check it about 1 to 2 times a month.
 
AstroTurf said:
It's getting alignment done now.
I'm going to upload the 2n'd report as well (this time from speedy) and then research into specialists before getting it sorted once and for all.
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It's unlikely that they'll adjust the rear camber. Most cars don't have adjustment for that, and you need to use hydraulic braces to bend the suspension straight again, and if you screw up you can break things, so most places wont do it even if they have the equipment. It does depend on the car - some have a reputation for being more brittle than others, and of course some places are more "cowboy" than others and will try anything. But I'd be very surprised if a standard wheel alignment place touches your rear camber. Hopefully your guys will surprise me :)
 
Colin62 said:
It's unlikely that they'll adjust the rear camber. Most cars don't have adjustment for that, and you need to use hydraulic braces to bend the suspension straight again, and if you screw up you can break things, so most places wont do it even if they have the equipment. It does depend on the car - some have a reputation for being more brittle than others, and of course some places are more "cowboy" than others and will try anything. But I'd be very surprised if a standard wheel alignment place touches your rear camber. Hopefully your guys will surprise me :)
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I'm going to see if I can track some of the first alignment reports down but doubt I still have them.
If I can I'll compare to these..
 
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