Attack on Iran may 'open Pandora's box'

[rwenzori]

English please.

He gets less comprehensible as the day wears on, it seems.

 

[Syndyre]

That is Israel's problem really.

Maybe so but Israel's a major US ally and IIRC the US committed to using its nuclear arsenal in defence of its NATO allies so its not a major leap to assume the same would apply to Israel.

 

[GougedEye]

Well exactly that is predicted in the Bible, even if it is the religious and the freakoids reads the bible and wants it to be true by enacting the deed, the outcome is the same as the prediction(s) will then be true. So we know what is to be but we do not know when. 2012 Seems to be a very convenient date for many reasons!

Sigh. One religious fanatic calling the other religious fanatics crazy. Way to drag an interesting thread into the gutter.

I cannot recall a time when the chrisian loons weren't prediciting the immenent end of the world. And no matter how many times you are proved wrong, you just go ojn making this rubbish up. You people really deserve each other.

But you NoADSL you are an example of exactly why we don't want these guys to get hold of Nuclear Weapons. Look at you, all excited because you have convinced yourself that your magic book predicts a nuclear war soon. How dissapointed you will be if it doesn't come about. Now switch Jesus with Mohammed in you mind and suddenly we have a muslim extremist getting excited at the though of killing the satan spawned americans by hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. You scare me as much as any al Queda fanatic. Lunatics are lunatics. It doesn't matter what book you read.

P.S. The bible clearly tells us that the second comming would happen during the lifetime of some of those who were alive when jesus was. Sorry didn't happen.

 

[icyrus]

*sigh*

You are completely missing the boat.

A simple question.

Do you think that after a U.S city has been destroyed the U.S would after identifying the culprit perhaps months later would launch a nuclear strike annihilating that country at the cost of loosing 100 000s more of there own citizens?

Do you honestly believe that the U.S could destroy every silo before an ICBM could be launched at them? It's called MAD for a reason.

It seems you can't read. Iran will never achieve a position that will assure them MAD with America.

Just like Ayatollahs.

Yes, that was exactly my point. They will not take a course of action that will certainly result in their imminent death.

You seem confused.

 

[rwenzori]

Sigh. One religious fanatic calling the other religious fanatics crazy. Way to drag an interesting thread into the gutter.

I cannot recall a time when the chrisian loons weren't prediciting the immenent end of the world. And no matter how many times you are proved wrong, you just go ojn making this rubbish up. You people really deserve each other.

P.S. The bible clearly tells us that the second comming would happen during the lifetime of some of those who were alive when jesus was. Sorry didn't happen.

Plenty froot loopz around.

Oh joy the Cold war is back. Living under the threat of armageddon was such fun. Pity 3rd world countries that will the become battle grounds

What would you know? You were a baby, if even born!


Let us hope that some negotiated settlement can be reached. All this nuclear proliferation is quite scary, especially seeing that the keys to the biggest arsenal are in the hands of a warmonger.

 

[GougedEye]

Maybe so but Israel's a major US ally and IIRC the US committed to using its nuclear arsenal in defence of its NATO allies so its not a major leap to assume the same would apply to Israel.

Israel (or the Jewish lobby) is a major contributor to US election campaings. They are Far More likely to to help Israel than Nato.

The point is, we don't want anyone to have nuclear programmes. Not just Iran. Most countries agree and accept this. It tends to be the ouside pariah states that are going against thsi. Like Iran, North Korea (and the olde RSA). There are already far, far too many nuclear armed countries. That doesn't make us safer, it puts us into more danger.

 

[Syndyre]

Israel (or the Jewish lobby) is a major contributor to US election campaings. They are Far More likely to to help Israel than Nato.

Probably true, but I don't think lobbying is the main/only reason they support Israel. Either way my point stands.

The point is, we don't want anyone to have nuclear programmes. Not just Iran. Most countries agree and accept this. It tends to be the ouside pariah states that are going against thsi. Like Iran, North Korea (and the olde RSA). There are already far, far too many nuclear armed countries. That doesn't make us safer, it puts us into more danger.

True but the reality is that because the technology is available countries like the US, UK etc. need to keep their nuclear arsenals as a deterrent. Unilateral disarmament wouldn't help anyone.

 

[Alan]

True but the reality is that because the technology is available countries like the US, UK etc. need to keep their nuclear arsenals as a deterrent. Unilateral disarmament wouldn't help anyone.

Yeah just because the U.S gives up it's nukes doesn't mean others will follow.

 

[Syndyre]

Yeah just because the U.S gives up it's nukes doesn't mean others will follow.

Exactly. Even if they did from the US's point of view I'm sure they do act as a deterrent, there'd be no logical reason for them to give them up.

 

[rwenzori]

I think I've identified your problem. It's called history You can learn about things before you were born you know.

*sigh*

Well, you have yet to show that, apart from the occasional instance, you read history with any mature understanding. You do, however, in your posts, show the naïveté of someone quite young. And you have to rely on support from other school kids and religious nutters. Maybe if you swallowed your pride for a day or two you might learn something.

 

[NoADSLyet]

He gets less comprehensible as the day wears on, it seems.

No you are to shy to admit you have comprehension skill problems while reading at the same time, dont worry there is a whole nation like you here locally!

 

[NoADSLyet]

, apart from the occasional instance, you read history with any mature understanding.

And you believe YOU do, A brainwashed communist with comprehension skill problems. LOL

Maybe time to see your lawyers again, take action man Take action! Just don't cry again baby, you will dump everyone in tears again.

 

[rwenzori]

And you believe YOU do, A brainwashed communist with comprehension skill problems. LOL

Maybe time to see your lawyers again, take action man Take action! Just don't cry again baby, you will dump everyone in tears again.

Well I'm not sure about the brainwashed communist bit. How would you describe yourself? I would be intrigued to get an answer from someone who can post stuff like:

When the sex act involves hitting the manure exit point by some people that mastered the art under certain new privileges then there must be a certain "musk" smell, thus when they smell a "musky" f@rt then obviously they will think sex!

What does that make you?

 

[NoADSLyet]

Well I'm not sure about the brainwashed communist bit. How would you describe yourself? I would be intrigued to get an answer from someone who can post stuff like:



What does that make you?

Thats for me to know and You to find out! Only thing is you maybe did not read the rest of all my postings relating to the types using that style of sex as I feel nothing for them neither condone them like YOU. If that fact was insensitive to whoever then I achieved my agenda and that was to make him feel like the shiite he practices. Comprehenda? Ah, NO you will have comprehension problems again. The truth is always painfull is it not!

PS. BTW I was more discreet but because someone could not comprehend like you normally do I had to be Blunt about the fact!

 

[Alan]

Israel has beein breaking UN resolutions for far, far longer with no tangible effect.....

Israel is far less a threat than Saddam was.

The fact is that the UN didn't need to go in. Saddam had no WMD programme worth mentioning, everyone knew it, but he kept hinting that he had and taunting the US. Mainly because he wanted to be seen by the muslim world as someone who would stand up against the US.

Yes they did. As proven time and again everybody believed he WMDs. Even the French. The argument was never about whether had WMDs but what to do about them. They had inspectors in there for a reason.

How long were sanctions that were killing 100 000s with him still in power supposed to go on for? At some point something has to be done. You can't simply go on commiting practically genocide on Iraqi civillians. Only two options were availabe. 1) lift sanctions in which case he'd just go back to his old ways or 2) remove him.

Now if you know your history, you will know that he was allowed to stay in power after the 1st Gulf War precisly because he was the stabalising force in the region. The US knew that if we took him out, the country which is an uneasy grouping of factions who hate each other, would decend into chaos and that Iran would step into the vacuum created. With a Us army sitting in the middle, hated by everyone and playing peacekeeper. This would put oil supplies in danger as well as being a boost for muslim fundamentalism in the region. Saddam was the lesser of the possible evils and he knew it.

Well unfortunately those were the state of affairs. You can't possibly be saying it was acceptable to keep him in power killing 100 000s of citizens just to keep a lid on things? The place was gonna "blow" sooner or later

Unfortunately he over estimated the intelligence of Mr Bush.

Don't forget Mr Blair


Anyway back to Iran.....